Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge

San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Map

Original - A map of the San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge, showing the original bridge and proposed eastern span replacement. The bridge is a multi-structure toll bridge complex that spans San Francisco Bay and links the California cities of Oakland and San Francisco in the United States, as part of Interstate 80. It carries approximately 270,000 vehicles per day.

SVG Alternate: Kmusser's English version

Reason: High-quality, high-resolution, good detail and enc.
Articles this image appears in: San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge
Creator: Alexrk

Support as nominator --Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 02:04, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support SVG as well. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 00:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment why is this png, not svg? the file description says it was created in inkscape. could we get the original svg from the uploader? Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Why don't you look on the image page, the SVG is linked there. I fixed up the german version a couple of months ago. The original SVG was created with the misguided intention of pixel perfectly positioning a very specific font (which was only on the creator's harddrive). SVGs should be designed more like HTML documents with some leeway for choice of fonts and positioning. There is a list of fonts supported by the built-in wikimedia renderer. SVGs can be made to look fine. --Dschwen 17:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'd just like to point out that the Commons page has a message in red: "Please do not use this SVG graphic within Wikipedia articles! Use the enclosed PNG version instead. This SVG file is solely a source for re-utilization, editing or printing purposes." So an svg is available for this, but because it's not really useful in articles and it consequently loses enc., which is why I nominated the png. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 20:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ Couple of issues, first, its wrong, half of the new span is built (see File:San Francisco Oakland Bay Bridge New east span.jpg), so it isn't a proposal any more. Secondly, there should be a metric scale for readers that don't come from Liberia, Myanmar or the United States. Fix and I can support. Noodle snacks (talk) 06:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm working on an edit right now, I should upload soon. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 20:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I uploaded an edit right over it (needed updating). Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 20:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - What!? You edited the PNG version?! Why not the SVG? That seems to be quite a waste of time. --Dschwen 21:21, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - I don't know how and don't have the right program to edit SVGs. The png edit took less than 2 minutes. If someone would like to fix the SVG as well, that would be helpful. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 21:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        The new scale is wrong, The imperial scale is 2 miles, not one. Noodle snacks (talk) 23:26, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        Incidentally, checking reliable sources, it turns out that the km scale is correct, but the miles is wrong. Fixing right now... Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 23:58, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        Now corrected. Uploaded over the original again. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 00:14, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        One final suggestion, make the new span blue or something, grey and dotted lines will not really work once its built and the old one is knocked down. Noodle snacks (talk) 01:29, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        I undashed the lines and made them connected, but I left the new span the original color, because on my moniter it looked a tad neater, IMO. I'm going to upload right now. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 02:11, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(unindent) Uploaded. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 02:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Noodle snacks. Once these issues are addressed then I support. -- AJ24 (talk) 13:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose should be SVG. --Dschwen 02:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns seem addressed, further input please. MER-C 03:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support should be SVG though. Noodle snacks (talk) 01:39, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I've submitted an SVG request at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop#SFOBB Map. However, as I said above, the Commons page for the German SVG has a message in red: "Please do not use this SVG graphic within Wikipedia articles! Use the enclosed PNG version instead. This SVG file is solely a source for re-utilization, editing or printing purposes." Looking at this, and svg is important, but it's not really useful in articles and it consequently loses enc., IMO, which is why I nominated the png. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 15:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That message is just plain bullshit. Nothing but SVG-FUD. Rather than putting such messages on the image pages the SVG should be fixed. It's not rocket science. --Dschwen 15:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: For what it's worth I've applied Spencer's corrections to the SVG version as well. Kmusser (talk) 15:15, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'ved added it below the original for review. Fletcher (talk) 22:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ Support ~~for the moment, but would make a great SVG.~~ Sophus Bie ^(talk) 02:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 08:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]