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U.S. war casualties arriving at Dover AFB

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U.S. war casualties arriving at Dover AFB

Striking? Yes. Shocking? Yes. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 20:48, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)

Used in Casualties of the conflict in Iraq since 2003.
  • Support. The picture really is well done, regardless of content. The depth (with the soldier in the foreground and the perspective going back), the bright colors of of the flags contrasted with the muted background colors. . . It's a nice piece. And it's historically important as well. – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 21:10, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)
  • Neutral. What's shocking about it, except for the terrible choice of colours on the coffins? That said, I agree that it is a well-composed photograph, possibly so well-executed that it would be POV to feature it separately from an article that can balance it. — David Remahl 22:46, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Support. It's used on Casualties of the conflict in Iraq since 2003 (contrasting with the photo of an Iraqi casualty), 2003 Invasion of Iraq (in the last 3rd of the article), and Dover test (where its a very useful illustration). I don't think it is POV anywhere. (Disclaimer: I uploaded the image). -- Chris 73 Talk 23:00, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)
  • Oppose. 630x381, with visible compression artefacts. Just not good enough for FP. ed g2s • talk 01:52, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Support. --ScottyBoy900Q∞ 14:55, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Oppose -- not brilliant, only adequate in execution. As ed said, it's quite small and it is blurred, both in the distance and at the front soldier's hand. ✏ Sverdrup 15:05, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Oppose -- i feel it is POV in the articles meantioned above in its contrast of our dead vs. their's. The choice of colors on the coffins is standard for all fallen soldiers. the pic is blurry and i would like to be respectful of their wishes and not propagate it across the net.Cavebear42 15:52, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Whose wishes? – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 21:03, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
      • The pic's page has a link talking about the controversy.Cavebear42 03:50, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
        • To save everyone reading the article (terrible newspaper!), they are the US Defence Department. Markalexander100 03:55, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Purely as a picture its not great, and also I roughly agree with Cavebear -- William M. Connolley 18:24, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC).
  • support. Might make some people think. Dunc|☺ 19:34, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Support. It is one of those images that raises everybody's awareness and gets talked about a lot. It clearly shows the dark side of war, which many do not want to see or to be shown, but always exists. Janderk 09:21, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Support, if you can get higher resolution version, that'd be good too. BrokenSegue 21:17, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Support, because it is an exellent picture, and not for political reasons. Rdsmith4— Dan | Talk 01:17, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Support Enochlau 10:09, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Oppose: I think the idea of "featured images" is to encourage people to gdfl their work, and not as an award for government propaganda (Yes, it's a good image, as you should hope they can come up with, considering their resources). dab 14:29, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Comment - Can we confirm that these are actually casualties from Iraq? I'm seeing nasa saying that many of the pictures on that page are from the columbia. I continue to oppose the pic either way but if it goes through let's be sure its factually correct. Cavebear42 04:02, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Comment: The memory hole did a freedom of information request for images of coffins returning from Iraq, especially excluding Space Shuttle Columbia images. When they got it they assumed that they all were from the War, but apparently some were from columbia. Meanwhile they have sorted the images and this image shows Iraq casualties. Also, columbia had a crew of only 7 people, and the image has 16+ coffins (see Space Shuttle Columbia disaster). -- Chris 73 Talk 07:37, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Pschemp 01:11, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Oppose - great picture, bad compression. ugen64 02:48, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • Oppose. As mentioned before, the image quality is not good enough for a FP, if you can get a better version I will support. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 09:39, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)
  • NOT Promoted, +9/-8 -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 08:11, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)


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