Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/House sparrow and clouds

Delist: A miscellany

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 3 Nov 2019 at 09:32:25 (UTC)

N.B. I know this is big, but I'd suggest we just run this as "Does anyone think these are good enough to put these in articles?", since they auto-delist if not in use. This is to help the cleanup on WT:FPC.

A house sparrow
Robberflies mating
Motocross racing
Ulysses butterfly
White peach
Mammatus cloud panorama
Giraffe head
Jacky winter

Reason: Combined because of similar reasoning. All are unused images by Fir0002. For ca. 2006, they're quite good, but they're A. unused in articles. B. Kind of low resolution by modern standards, and C. That GDFL/CC-NC cross that, while I don't really want to delist over as a sole reason as I understand the motivation, would never pass nowadays. With all three of these the case, we may as well delist. Fir left in 2013, and hasn't been on except to update the contact information on his user page since.
Articles this image appears in: None.
Previous nomination/s

Sparrow: nom, 2009 delist suggestion, 2010 delist suggestion.
Robberflies: nom
Motocross: nom
Ulysses butterfly: nom
White peach: nom
Mammatus cloud panorama: nom
Giraffe head: nom, 2007 delist suggestion
Jacky winter: nom

Nominator: Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.1% of all FPs}

Delist — Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.1% of all FPs} 09:32, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delist - For anyone not in the know, one of the requirements of GDFL is that the reuser must copy the full text of the license every time they use the work. That's because GDFL was designed for software, where that's no big deal, and not for images. That makes these effectively commercially non-free in any medium outside the internet. For that reason, these photos would not even be allowed for upload to Commons as of last October. As is fairly well communicated in the attached custom user template, this amounts to "call me and we'll talk about payment". If a worst case scenario, this type of licensing can amount to baiting for careless reusers, to set them up for copyright trolling, which is part of why Commons depreciated it. GMG ^talk 10:44, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with the bundling of this nomination - not all of these images are obvious delists. I recommend the nominator withdraw this and nominate the images for delisting individually. To wit:
- House sparrow: I'm surprised at the low quality of images in the article. File:House Sparrow, England - May 09.jpg is a better image. Delist.
- Robberflies mating: delist, species not identified.
- Motorcross: the composition of this one is better than all the others in Motorcross.
- Ulysses butterfly: replaced with File:Papilio ulysses ambiguus Rothschild, 1895.JPG in its article. I think this is a regression in EV, it doesn't show habitat.
- Peach: just removed, not replaced with anything. Could reinsert, I guess.
- Mammatus cloud: again, I'm surprised at the low quality of images in the article. In fact, this might even be the best image we have of this phenomena.
- ~~File:Giraffe08 - melbourne zoo edit.jpg is used but obsolete. Replace with File:Giraffa camelopardalis head (Profil).jpg, then delist.~~ I have replaced, so delist the giraffe head too.
- Jacky Winter: keep - I've reinserted it into the article, showing nesting means it wasn't obsolete.
I have no opinion on images 3 and 5. MER-C 11:43, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @MER-C: As I said, I think it's useful as a "should any of these be saved" check. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.1% of all FPs} 15:44, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- I've nominated the giraffe's replacement image for FP at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Northern giraffe head. MER-C 15:16, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Ulysses butterfly and Mammatus cloud because they are now used. MER-C 19:53, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delist anything not in use at the end of the FPC period. Anything that is in use we can revisit in a more focussed nom if necessary. Josh Milburn (talk) 19:04, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with adding back photos of Ulysses butterfly and Mammatus cloud into the articles (I agree with MER-C's comments, above, on these two photos). I am neutral on adding back the White peach photo (BTW there is no photo of a whole peach, not nectarine, in the peach article). Bammesk (talk) 01:41, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I added the two photos to the articles: [1], [2]. Bammesk (talk) 18:01, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MER-C and Bammesk: Thanks for that. As I said, I think this is a useful exercise in evaluating a set of images with similar problems, but varying mitigating factors, but its success depends on actually saving the ones worth saving. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.2% of all FPs} 01:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Josh's comments above about delisting. Bammesk (talk) 15:06, 27 October 2019 (UTC) . . . Delist unused images. Bammesk (talk) 03:40, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delist all remaining unused – GDFL/CC-NC cross is not ideal. White peach is now used so keep that photo.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 01:43, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To simplify things for Armbrust, here are the ones unused, as of right now: Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.3% of all FPs} 04:34, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sparrow on ledge.jpg
File:Common brown robberflies mating.jpg
File:MotoX racing03 edit.jpg
File:Giraffe08 - melbourne zoo edit.jpg
Postpone closure to tomorrow. The white peach image needs 1 more day to be considered stable. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 12:45, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delisted File:Sparrow on ledge.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delisted File:Common brown robberflies mating.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delisted File:MotoX racing03 edit.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Kept File:Ulysses Butterfly - melbourne zoo.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Kept File:White peach and cross section edit.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Kept File:Mammatus cloud panorama.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delisted File:Giraffe08 - melbourne zoo edit.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Kept File:Jacky winter nesting.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]