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Piano Trio No. 1 in D minor, Op. 49 – 4. Finale: Allegro assai appassionato

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1839  -Piano Trio No. 1 in D minor, Op. 49 and the finale (8:08)
Alisa Weilerstein, Awadagin Pratt and Joshua Bell perform Felix Mendelssohn's 1839 Piano Trio No. 1 in D minor, Op. 49 and the finale, Allegro assai appassionato at the White House Evening of Classical Music on November 4, 2009.
1839  - Piano Trio No. 1 in D minor, Op. 49 and the finale
audio only version
Reason
To me, this seems like a high caliber and high quality recording of a notable work that has high EV and adheres to the Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria. The trio is one of Mendelssohn's most popular pieces of chamber music and it is performed with the instruments for which it was scored.
Composed by
Felix Mendelssohn
Creator
Whitehouse.gov
Articles in which this recording appears
Alisa Weilerstein, Awadagin Pratt, Joshua Bell, Piano Trio No. 1 (Mendelssohn)
1839  - Piano Trio No. 1 in D minor, Op. 49 and the finale edit1
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  • Promoting 20091104 Joshua Bell, Awadagin Pratt, and Alisa Weilerstein - Mendelssohn's Piano Trio No. 1 in D minor, Op. 49 - 4. Finale, Allegro assai appassionato edit1.ogg (audio) and 20091104_Joshua_Bell,_Awadagin_Pratt,_and_Alisa_Weilerstein_-_Mendelssohn%27s_Piano_Trio_No._1_in_D_minor,_Op._49_-_4._Finale,_Allegro_assai_appassionato.theora.ogv (video) --Guerillero | My Talk 19:41, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Repeal of Prohibition

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1933 - Repeal of Prohibition
A 1933 newsreel about the repeal of prohibition
Reason
A great example of a newsreel from an important time in US history. The audio plays a very strong part in the film and uses a very iconic voice. I think that we need to get started on a FV process soon.
Creator
Universal Newsreel
Articles in which this recording appears
Repeal of Prohibition

Promoted Repeal of Prohibition newsreel ca1933.ogv. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:21am • 01:21, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Remarks on the Signing of the Voting Rights Act (August 6, 1965) Lyndon Baines Johnson (audio)

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1965 - Remarks on the Signing of the Voting Rights Act
Statement before the United States Congress by Lyndon B. Johnson on August 6, 1965 about the Voting Rights Act.

This legislation helped protected rights outlined in the Fifteenth and Twenty-fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution. It ended the widespread disfranchisement that prevailed in many regions of the United States. This file adds significantly to the following articles:


Two Hispaniola National Anthems

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1883 - Quisqueyanos valientes
Dominican Republic National Anthem performed by the United States Navy Band.
1904 - La Dessalinienne
"La Dessalinienne" performed by the United States Navy Band.
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These two countries share Hispaniola. The music for the Dominican anthem was set by 1883 although the lyrics took a few more generations to be finalized. Both are the same caliber United States Navy Band performances that we have seen here several times at FSC. These files add to the following articles:

Dominican Republic National Anthem
Haiti National Anthem


The British Grenadiers

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17th century "The British Grenadiers"
"The British Grenadiers" is a military march that is the official or authorized march of numerous British Commonwealth military regiments. This version is performed by the United States Army Band Strings ensemble.

This is a military march that is the official or authorized march of numerous British Commonwealth military regiments. This file adds significantly to the following articles:

Strong support Good quality performance. I could listen to this forever and still not tire of the tune. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 6:56pm • 08:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Incomprehensible storyline, after reading the article it skips verses 2 and 4. It's just like that recording of Good King Wenceslas that Adam posted on the talk page a while back. If the song is a story, it should be the entire story or at least the first 3 parts (verses). —James (Talk • Contribs) • 8:12pm • 10:12, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Great quality, good EV; I'm not terribly concerned about the verses that are missed, as I don't think these verses constitute a narrative, unlike the case of the Wenceslas carol a while back. Major Bloodnok (talk) 23:36, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Query and request to be moved back into main FSC area Generally policy has been to wait until something has either two supports or two opposes (in addition to nominator), whichever comes first. Why is this nomination different.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have determined that the "Nominations to be Closed" section was created with instructions inconsistent with policy, which led to this being incorrectly moved. I have corrected the instructions and moved this nomination back to its proper place in the candidate queue for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:27, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see that the main instructions allow an item to close as an FS with only two out of three supports including the nominator. I think I have experienced about 40 FS promotions and do not recall having had one closed with so little clarity of consensus. I am hoping someone else votes, but will put this back in the to be closed list this weekend if there is no further commentary. I remain uncomfortable calling this a valid close. In all prior noms, practice has been to await further feedback with one support and one oppose.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:11, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose agreeing with James that this is verz incomprehensible, stating something, without explaining it; and I've seen plenty of better ways to cut the verses. Not sure what would be good to represent the British Grenadiers, but this isn't very good. --—innotata 16:29, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Debussy - Sarabande from Pour le Piano

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1901 - Sarabande from Pour le piano
Debussy's Sarabande from Pour le piano, composed in 1901, performed by Wikipedia user La Pianista in 2011.
Reason
For once, an almost perfect recording, note-wise. :p
Composed by
Claude Debussy
Creator
La Pianista (talk · contribs)
Articles in which this recording appears
Pour le piano

Gross National Happiness

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2010 -Gross National Happiness (3:29)
The concept of gross national happiness or "GNH" was developed in an attempt to define an indicator that measures quality of life or social progress in more holistic and psychological terms than gross domestic product (GDP). It was Jigme Singye Wangchuck the King of Bhutan who created GNH.
Reason
Good quality sound and footage. Helps explain Gross National Happiness and give alittle history on modern Bhutan towards the end.
Creator
Simpleshow
Articles in which this recording appears
Gross National Happiness

Central American national anthems

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1904 - Himno Istmeño
"Himno Istmeño" (Panama National Anthem) performed by the United States Navy Band
1853 - Noble patria, tu hermosa bandera
"Noble patria, tu hermosa bandera" (Costa Rica National Anthem) performed by the United States Navy Band
1903 - Himno Nacional de Honduras
"Himno Nacional de Honduras" (Honduras National Anthem) performed by the United States Navy Band
1856 - Himno Nacional de El Salvador
"Himno Nacional de El Salvador" (El Salvador National Anthem) performed by the United States Navy Band

These are the last four PD-eligible Central American national anthems. They add significantly to the following articles:

Panama National Anthem
Costa Rica National Anthem
Honduras National Anthem
El Salvador National Anthem
  • Nominate and support. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suppport The El Salvador anthem was the only one with any life in it, but for all that, played well by the Army Band as usual. High level of EV. Major Bloodnok (talk) 19:17, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment—It concerns me that the corpus of FSs needs to avoid significant imbalances. Are we to promote every single national anthem played superbly by the US Navy Band? Another issue is that some of these national anthems are, in my view, musically very non-notable. The Cuban one recently promoted starts with a fairly empty rat-tat-tat, which is acceptable I guess, then moves from a pretty ordinary national-anthemy type of genre to a something rather more akin to a popular genre (I cannot believe this was written more than a century ago, but there's no information on the arranger. If FSs are to appear on the main page, we'll end up with 10% of them being military band performances of national anthems. Vomit. (You know I'm not casting aspersions on the performers, of course; it's a confluence of their excellence and the US government's forsight in making its own productions copyright-free.) Tony (talk) 16:44, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree with you that the pieces of music are not notable musically. However, I believe they are notable and have high EV because they are national anthems and that therefore this makes the music notable for reasons other than the inherent quality (or lack of it) in the composition. I also agree that FS should be more than a repository for brass-band national anthems, but we can't disallow a candidate on the grounds that we have too many similar pieces like this already. The more FSes there are the better in my view. Oh, and I also agree that the US government has much foresight in making its work public domain. If only other governments did the same more widely. Ben (Major Bloodnok) (talk) 19:13, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I note that recent massive changes to the criteria have no consensus. Major, "The more FSes there are the better in my view."—this is something I fundamentally disagree with, as I did at FAC in 2005 and 2006, when the standards left a lot to be desired in the rush to raise the proportion of all articles that were featured. Featured status per se rather than quality was seen to be The Good Thing. Now, FSs do need to be "among our best work". That means notable music, too, unless there's a compelling reason (historical, etc) for accepting ordinary stuff any commercial composer could dash off in an afternoon for a fee (give me a fee and I'll write a better one, frankly).

On the contrary, notability is required for use in an article, not for featured status. Tony (talk) 10:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You disagree - that is fine and surely is the point of this part of WP. As to how the criteria was amended, I'll leave that to the talk page. I don't see why having more sounds rated as featured quality by the community can be a bad thing, but you are entitled to your opinion. IMO having a high EV is a very important criterion in determining whether a sound should be featured. Ben (Major Bloodnok) (talk) 19:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Liberia National Anthem

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1847 - "All Hail, Liberia, Hail!" (Liberia National Anthem, instrumental)
Instrumental version of "All Hail, Liberia, Hail!" (Liberia National Anthem) performed by the United States Navy Band.
Reason
This is a national anthem the adheres to all Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria.
Composed by
Olmstead Luca
Creator
United States Navy Band
Articles in which this recording appears
All Hail, Liberia, Hail!
Olmstead Luca

Not promoted Invoking WP:SNOW-clause close. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 2:16pm • 04:16, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

America The Beautiful

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1910 - "America the Beautiful"
United States Army Band Brass Quintet's 2007 rendition of the 1910 "America the Beautiful".

This is a very beautiful recording of a patriotic song that is important for WP to have. It meets all WP:WIAFS criteria. This file adds to the following article:

Promoted America (US Army Brass).ogg —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:55pm • 06:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Roast Beef of Old England

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"Roast Beef of Old England"
A United States Navy Band fife and drum rendition of "The Roast Beef of Old England" (1731), which both the Royal Navyand most regiments of the British Army and the United States Marine Corps use at dinner time.

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Not promoted The concerns raised by those opposing outweigh the support vote, fife and drum is fine but not when the piece is centuries old and NOT intended to be played as such and in the context of FS such music has little value, no matter how well the rendition is played. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:06pm • 07:06, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh for fucksake, grow a set. This wasn't even related to your other nominations... —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:52pm • 11:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC) I have no idea what that was about and I forgot what pissed me off, so please ignore my little hissy fit. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:30pm • 11:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Address Before a Joint Session of Congress (February 24, 2009, Barack Obama)

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2009 -February 24, 2009 Address Before a Joint Session of Congress
Barack Obama's February 24, 2009 Address Before a Joint Session of Congress in which he discussed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 among other economic-related issues during the Late-2000s financial crisis.
Reason
Previously, when the video of this speech was nominated this audio's nomination was closed as a redundant and dominated nominee. However, it has since come to my attention that audio only alternative files serve and important purpose for readers on slow connections or who are otherwise unable to take advantage of the video technology. At 32.6 MB this is more than 60MB smaller than the 95.04MB featured video. Surely it serves a distinct purpose for people with slow connections by reducing the download time by a factor of three. This file deserves independent evaluation against the Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria, which it clearly meets.
Creator
Miller Center of Public Affairs
Articles in which this recording appears
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009
Barack Obama speech to joint session of Congress, February 2009
First 100 days of Barack Obama's presidency
Presidency of Barack Obama
Timeline of the Presidency of Barack Obama (2009)
  • Nominate and support. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:02, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose—an hour-long rambler again? This free-for-all nominating full, unedited speechs by favourite presidents, just because they're a president, has to be re-examined. What makes this among our very best work? Why would we want this to appear on the main page? Tony (talk) 03:17, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • This was Obama's first major speech as President.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes, that is a plus. But apart from the enormous length, think of usability for a moment. How do editors know what he is rambling through? Which themes? It's not documented. It has to be used in full in any article on one of the themes he deals with. this is very cumbersome. The apparent blanket ban on chopping up such monster files into more functional parts makes them of little use in most articles. Then think of listeners: very few will trudge through an hour of this kind of politician-speak. It is plain boring unless you're a researcher or journalist who needs to locate something within it. I have a horrid suspicion that these speeches are being nominated solely because they are symbols. This is not very practical in an encyclopedia. The other problem is that it sets a precedent for nominating many many of the ?million political speeches each year made in national parliaments alone. My local MP gets onto his hind legs and bangs on about climate change; OK, let's nominate it. What are the boundaries to protect the body of FSs from becoming all-inclusive, with thousands of political speeches? Tony (talk) 08:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suspended per Wikipedia talk:Featured sound candidates#Memorandum on the Duplication of Featured Sound. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:40pm • 06:40, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted Pointless waste of time. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:28pm • 07:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    • TTT, please do not strike through other editors' comments. This is unacceptable, and you know it. If you have a problem, discuss it politely, or take it to the appropriate forum. Tony (talk) 06:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Clinton audio files

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1998 -Bill Clinton's Response to the Lewinsky Allegations
Bill Clinton making a presentation that ends with a short commentary on the Monica Lewinsky scandal. The presentation is known for the quote "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." (6:07)
1993 -Bill Clinton - Remarks on the Signing of NAFTA
Bill Clinton's remarks on the signing of the North American Free Trade Agreement on December 8, 1993.
1993 -Bill Clinton's First Inaugural
Video of Bill Clinton entire 1993 presidential inauguration address on Janaury 20, 1993.
Reason
These files are all audio files that correspond to recent video FS promotions. They meet all Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria. As I have said in other nominations, the reader often is unable to use video technology and even if he is may be on a slow connection where the significantly smaller audio files are more valuable to him.
Creator
U.S. Government/Miller Center
Articles in which this recording appears
Lewinsky: History of the United States (1991–present), Impeachment of Bill Clinton, Lewinsky scandal, Presidency of Bill Clinton
NAFTA: Bill Clinton, North American Free Trade Agreement, Presidency of Bill Clinton
Inauguration: Bill Clinton, Federal holidays in the United States, First inauguration of Bill Clinton, Presidency of Bill Clinton, United States presidential inauguration

Not promoted Pointless waste of time. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:27pm • 07:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Othello (I. iii) audio only

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1603 -Othello (I. iii) audio only
James Earl Jones performs a soliloquy by Othello from Act I, scene iii of Shakespeare's Othello at the White House Evening of Poetry, Music, and the Spoken Word on May 12, 2009.
Reason
This weekend I was contacted on my talk page by a user who could not view the video file. This brought to my attention that many readers may be limited to audio files or may prefer a 3.53 MB audio version to a 40.75MB video version because of the speed with which it might load on slower systems. This file is actually the audio track from the .mp4 video file (rather than .mp3 file at the source, which has clicking sounds) that was promoted to FS, so it has already met all Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria. There are numerous instances of mulitple similar versions of the same content at FS and there is no reason for this not to be promoted along with the video.
Creator
Whitehouse.gov
Articles in which this recording appears
Othello (character), Soliloquy, James Earl Jones

Not promoted Pointless waste of time. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:27pm • 07:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Osama Bin Laden Death Statement audioonly

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2011 - Osama Bin Laden Death Statement audioonly
U.S. President Barack Obama addresses America and the world that Osama bin Laden has been killed by U.S. forces.
Reason
This is a tremendously important/historic speech of extreme encyclopedic value. For many readers on slow connections having a version that is more than 5 times smaller makes the difference in whether it is useful to them. For others video does not work regardless of its size. There are numerous types of content for which we have two nearly identical versions at FS. This file meets all Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria.
Composed by
Office of the United States President
Creator
Whitehouse.gov
Articles in which this recording appears
Death of Osama bin Laden, Timeline of the Presidency of Barack Obama (2011), Presidency of Barack Obama, Barack Obama

Not promoted Pointless waste of time. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:27pm • 07:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Boccherini's Sonata for Two Cellos in C Major (audio)

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Boccherini's Sonata for Two Cellos in C Major, 1st movement Allegro moderato (audio)
Luigi Boccherini's Sonata for Two Cellos in C Major, 1st movement: Allegro moderato performed by Alisa Weilerstein and 8 year-old Sujari Britt at the White House Evening of Classical Music on November 4, 2009.
Reason
This 1.95MB audio complements the 89.18MB video file that has been selected as an FS by providing the reader with a slow connection a much more readily available method to hear this sound. This file is actually the audio track from the video file as opposed to the distinct audio file at the source, which has clicks. This file meets all Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria.
Composed by
Luigi Boccherini
Creator
Whitehouse.gov
Articles in which this recording appears
Alisa Weilerstein
Luigi Boccherini

Not promoted Pointless waste of time. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:28pm • 07:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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