Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Windsor Locks, Connecticut, tornado/1
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- Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:05, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm going to be reviewing this article as part of the reassessment drive of all weather-related good articles.
- Well-written/verifiable
- The opening sentence could be stronger. Right now it reads as a bit of a run-on, with struck the towns of Windsor, Windsor Locks, and Suffield, Connecticut, and Feeding Hills, Massachusetts, on Wednesday, October 3, 1979. Perhaps one of the tornado's more notable characteristics could be included in the opening, like that it was one of the costliest single tornadoes in the US, or one of three F4's in CT?
- In the infobox, the damage is formatted weirdly.
- Were there exactly 500 injuries? The article says " Over 400 people were hospitalized", so where did the 500 come from?
- You should have some sort of note that all times are in Eastern Daylight Time (presumably). That time zone is only mentioned in the infobox.
- I think you should split the storm synopsis and the impact section. Right now, you have material in both sections.
- "Eyewitness reports have the tornado ripping the roof off a grocery store in Wethersfield, Connecticut. Trees were uprooted in East Hartford, Connecticut. " - so did the tornado touch down in Wethersfield then?
- "Students at a Brownie meeting were led into a hallway just before the auditorium they had been in was destroyed." - the wording could be stronger
- The most severe damage occurred along River Road, Hollow Brook Road, Pioneer Drive and Settler Circle, where large frame houses were left "in splinters" - who said the quote "in splinters"?
- The tornado moved north into Feeding Hills before dissipating near the Westfield city line, about five miles north of the Massachusetts state line. - source?
- The Windsor Locks tornado, with $1.568 billion in damages (when adjusted for inflation) - what about unadjusted for inflation?
- Also is the article title the best one? There has never been another tornado to hit Windsor Locks? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Broad
- The lead could be expanded a bit, it's probably too short as it is. Be sure to include damage total, deaths, injuries, and anything else notable about the tornado.
- "The storm system that caused the tornado had produced severe weather, including two weak tornadoes, in eastern Pennsylvania and New Jersey that morning." - any way to expand on this? When did the LPA form? Also, since it starts out an entire section, you should probably mention the date.
- Any impacts in Massachusetts?
- This NY Times article mentions that $50 million in damage occurred to the Connecticut National Guard
- Where was the third death?
- Neutral/Stable/Illustrated
- Definitely neutral/stable
- The satellite image is fine, but I'm not sure about the impact picture. There are other images that can be used, say from Monthly Weather Review, to illustrate the path/damage reports. It's not up to Wikipedia to have images of damage from every tornado. So I don't think the fair use claim is valid here.
- Citations
- Is the Tornado Project a reliable enough source?
- Several citations are broken.
The article is decent, but it just doesn't quite seem up to the standards of a modern-day GA. I'll leave the review open for a week and notify the GA nominator. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC) Copied from Talk:Windsor Locks, Connecticut, tornado; Please see that page for attribution. Noah, AATalk 23:17, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Comments from WeatherWriter
editI’m leaving two comments for others to reference from.
- Related to
Is the Tornado Project a reliable enough source?
— Yes. Actually, last August during a GA review of Tornado outbreak of February 12, 1945, the exact same question came up. The Tornado Project is cited by the National Weather Service and is linked to by them in a more information page. (Further explanation on that GA review).
- Sweet, thanks for verifying that. I'm not as familiar with tornadoes. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Related to the impact (damage) image and about Monthly Weather Review: Actually, I would disagree with the assessment by Hurricanehink on the fair-use image not being valid here. Monthly Weather Review was no longer owned/operated by the US government starting in 1974. Therefore, that article suggested by Hurricanehink from 1987 will not qualify at all for public domain/free-to-use images. Also, it is by the State University of New York, not US government, so that is very clearly not free-to-use images. Currently, there has not been any presentable free-to-use images related directly to the tornado (satellite image is of the supercell, not directly tornado), so the fair-use image claim is, as it stands now, entirely valid and should be treated as such for a GA review, or at least until a directly-related free-to-use image is added. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 19:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Well put, that's fine then. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- @WeatherWriter: Im not the one who conducted the review. I only copied and pasted what was left on the TP to here. Noah, AATalk 20:13, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oh whoops. Just realized it is Hurricanehink conducting the review and you just did a copy/paste. My apologies for that. I will correct, the name in my comment. Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yea I messed up doing the reassessment in the first place. I'll do better in the future, I swear :P ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Notice that the GAR officially starts at 20:27 UTC today. Noah, AATalk 16:02, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yea I messed up doing the reassessment in the first place. I'll do better in the future, I swear :P ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oh whoops. Just realized it is Hurricanehink conducting the review and you just did a copy/paste. My apologies for that. I will correct, the name in my comment. Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
I delisted the article because of no progress on any of these issues. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:10, 12 February 2024 (UTC)