Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2007 October 18

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No evidence image was created by Ukrainian government. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 00:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Official guide on how to wear the uniforms -http://vijsko.milua.org/nakazMO150-uniform.htm, and images to it-http://vijsko.milua.org/nakaz_150/Image-17.jpg. So it is a work of Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. Ceriy 17:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - That image isn't found at either of those sources, and the given source is a commercial website that claims copyright on all of its work. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 17:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Videmus Omnia - maybe you'll better go and learn Ukrainian before making false statements about someone's web-sites? Because facts are:

1. My web-site is not commercial.
2. On my site I never explicitly claimed copyright on any work - including articles, made by me :)
3. Text of the Order #150 AND pictures were scanned from official uniform regulations, published by Ukrainain MOD typography. Sorry, but the book itself haven't got any copyright disclamers - silly MOD :)))

Eugen Pinak (http://vijsko.milua.org/)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.143.144.18 (talk) 14:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- - - - That book was printed by the Printing house of the Ministry of Defense. Here's a link and the name of that boo:

http://www.izdatmouvarta.kiev.ua/katalog/do3.htm

Правила носіння військової форми одягу військовослужбовцями Збройних Сил України / Міністерство оборони України / С.Д. Ленська (ред.). — К. : Варта, 1995. — 158с. : іл. Ceriy 15:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image kept based on claims by User:Ceriy that the image is a work from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. -- RG ² 11:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Aireuropa.gif

Image:Aireuropa.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by DB (notify | contribs).

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Image:CA-25th.gif

Image:CA-25th.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by VitaleBaby (notify | contribs).

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Image:Dobson cellular.gif

Image:Dobson cellular.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Admrboltz (notify | contribs).

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Image:Geico Logo 20070523.gif

Image:Geico Logo 20070523.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Eastmain (notify | contribs).

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Image:Halallogo.gif

Image:Halallogo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Izzudin (notify | contribs).

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Image:Jazzlogo.GIF

Image:Jazzlogo.GIF (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Jet1011 (notify | contribs).

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Image:Kenyaairways.gif

Image:Kenyaairways.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by XmaX (notify | contribs).

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Image:Lanchile80s.gif

Image:Lanchile80s.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Jet1011 (notify | contribs).

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Image:Les liaisons dangereuses novel cover art.gif

Image:Les liaisons dangereuses novel cover art.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rentaferret (notify | contribs).

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Image:Lockup.gif

Image:Lockup.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Goldfish007 (notify | contribs).

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Image:Logo acjetz.gif

Image:Logo acjetz.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ifnord (notify | contribs).

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Image:Longlinesold.gif

Image:Longlinesold.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by X570 (notify | contribs).

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Image:PetSmart2.gif

Image:PetSmart2.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Xde 13 (notify | contribs).

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Image:Puntcat.gif

Image:Puntcat.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Dtobias (notify | contribs).

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Image:Rose Marie.gif

Image:Rose Marie.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Musha (notify | contribs).

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Image:Sg logo 300.gif

Image:Sg logo 300.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Phatteus (notify | contribs).

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Image:Suncom logo.gif

Image:Suncom logo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Masterpjz9 (notify | contribs).

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Image:T-mobile-logo USA.gif

Image:T-mobile-logo USA.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rbyrd8100 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:T-mobile-logo USA.png made this image obsolete. PNG crusade bot 00:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Tnlogo.gif

Image:Tnlogo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Taprobanus (notify | contribs).

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Image:UsaSouthAthleticConferenceLogo.gif

Image:UsaSouthAthleticConferenceLogo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Banderas (notify | contribs).

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Image:WWB.gif

Image:WWB.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Djm1279 (notify | contribs).

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Image:Ykk-ykkap.gif

Image:Ykk-ykkap.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Pathaugen (notify | contribs).

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Image:Ykkfastening.gif

Image:Ykkfastening.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Pathaugen (notify | contribs).

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Image:Zodiac-logo.gif

Image:Zodiac-logo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Gohst (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Zodiac-logo.png made this image obsolete. PNG crusade bot 01:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pentastar.jpg

Image:Pentastar.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Carlb (notify | contribs).

It's a photo of a Chrysler Corp. trademark and a CV since the uploader cannot release a trademark into PD. Anyway, even if a non-free Fair Use claim is made, Fair Use images cannot be used in Userboxes JGHowes ^talk - 01:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The photo is one I took of the hood of a Chrysler vehicle which I owned at the time. The (former) Chrysler logo indeed appears front and centre on the hood of this US-made vehicle, a red 1993 Dodge Shadow which is no longer on the road. The logo in question is no longer in use by Chrysler Corporation. Any copyright I release is whatever I would have held as photographer for taking the picture, the rest is out of my hands. Beyond that, I'm not too sure where you're going with this - trademark and copyright are two very different legal concepts and I am in no position to advise on these issues. --carlb 18:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The logo is not only a trademark, but also copyrighted as a creative design (as opposed to the simple word "CHRYSLER", which can be trademarked but not copyrighted). This photograph is a derivative work of a copyrighted image and so could only be used under a fair-use claim, which as Carlb pointed out, wouldn't be valid for the way this image is used. Delete. —An gr 18:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Ukr_general.jpg

Image:Ukr_general.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Counterstrike69 (notify | contribs).

No evidence this image is a work of the Ukrainian government. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 02:15, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Official guide on how to wear the uniforms -http://vijsko.milua.org/nakazMO150-uniform.htm, and images to it-http://vijsko.milua.org/nakaz_150/Image-01.jpg. So it is a work of Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. Ceriy 17:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - That image isn't found at either of those sources, and the given source is a commercial website that claims copyright on all of its work. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 17:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Videmus Omnia - maybe you'll better go and learn Ukrainian before making false statements about someone's web-sites? Because facts are:

1. My web-site is not commercial.
2. On my site I never explicitly claimed copyright on any work - including articles, made by me :)
3. Text of the Order #150 AND pictures were scanned from official uniform regulations, published by Ukrainain MOD typography. Sorry, but the book itself haven't got any copyright disclamers - silly MOD :)))

Eugen Pinak (http://vijsko.milua.org/)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.143.144.18 (talk) 14:53, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian rank insignia

The images below, claimed as {{PD-UA-exempt}}, are not works of the Ukrainian government, but of the commercial website http://www.uniforminsignia.net. The specific pages where they can be found are here, here, and here. The subject of images from this website has previously come up here and here. The gist of the issue is that the website creates digital images of rank insignia based on official descriptions, and then claims copyright on the resulting derivative works. The high quality and consistent appearance of these images has led a lot of Wikipedians to steal their images for use in our articles. This is morally wrong...our usage of their creations directly competes with their ability to attract visitors to their website. These images should be replaced with versions that either originate with the Ukrainian government or are created by Wikipedia users. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 02:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Xunantunich-belize.jpg

Image:Xunantunich-belize.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by BelizeExpert (notify | contribs).

uploader was just here to spam. Watermarked image that should not be used or we'd encourage spamming.- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've removed the watermark. We can now thank Manolo Romero @Belize.com for providing such a nice image to the Project! --Knulclunk 03:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, Knulclunk and Manolo Romero @Belize.com! Image kept. -- RG ² 22:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Nitzan.jpg

Image:Nitzan.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ossuranemecart (notify | contribs).

OR, UE B 03:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:JingLia.jpg

Image:JingLia.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ossuranemecart (notify | contribs).

OR, UE B 03:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Chichester-Psalms.jpg

Image:Chichester-Psalms.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by JzG (notify | contribs).

This non-free image violates WP:NFCC#8 in that it does not significantly increase readers' understanding of the article Chichester Psalms in a way text alone cannot. The caption says, "Note the changes of time signature. The movement settles into its predominant 7/4 metre in bar 11 (not shown)", but that information can just as easily be explained in prose, especially since the image doesn't even show part of what's being discussed. We don't need to see the sheet music to understand the rhythm of the piece. —An gr 05:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I fail to see how it can be asserted that it does not significantly increase the reader's understanding. The Chichester Psalms is a work which is unusual in several respects, notably rhythmic complexity, changes of time signature, the tonality and the Hebrew text. The short extract from the score illustrates all these. Does Angr read music? Perhaps not. The opening Ura hanevel is a striking and characteristic introduction to the piece, and it also shows why it is considered so very difficult for the tenors, which is mentioned in the article . Their opening entry on a high A, a seventh above the basses, is challenging to sing, musically unusual, and establishes the sound world of the piece. If one does read music, then this adds very considerably to the understanding of the piece, as it allows one to visualise it in a way that mere words cannot. It is also not replaceable, since the work is still copyright. It is precisely analogous to using a fair-use picture of a deceased individual because no free picture is, or is likely to be available. You cannot have a free version of this, because no free version can exist. Guy (Help!) 07:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- As it happens, I do read music, and I sing tenor, and I can fully appreciate the difficulty in coming in on a high A, especially when the rest of the choir is singing a B-flat. But the point is, I (and anyone else who can read music) can appreciate that without seeing the sheet music. The same goes for everything else you mentioned: "rhythmic complexity, changes of time signature, the tonality and the Hebrew text" can all be adequately described with text, we don't need to be shown the sheet music to believe it. Notes on a page are nothing like a photograph; nothing about them is so evocative that they transcend a written description. Hearing the music is a different matter; if you had uploaded a 30-second audio excerpt of the beginning of the piece, I probably wouldn't be challenging it. But just the written music? It doesn't show anything that can't be explained in words; this image is not worth bending Wikipedia's second pillar for. —An gr 21:15, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not necessary to understand the article. (And at that small resolution it's illegible anyways!) Calliopejen1 23:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Which is why I uploiaded it at a higher resolution. Because, you know, I actually do believe (as one who has deleted large numbers of violations of FUC) that it is important and uniquely useful in aiding the reader to understand the topic. Considerably more so than any album cover, and that's for sure. I am told we have 14,803 of those. Guy (Help!) 22:01, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

JzG does make valid arguments in regard to a fair use rationale, so I don't see a completely clear consensus to delete. -- RG ² 22:20, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:HGO LOGO THING.png

Image:HGO LOGO THING.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Kayteeflo (notify | contribs).

OR logo from twice deleted vanity/nn fanfiction article Hogwarts going online; no other encyclopedic use. ~Matticus ^T_C 07:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:FranceCDG.jpg

Image:FranceCDG.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Husnock (notify | contribs).

Orphan, possibly unfree. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 12:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Wikignome.jpg

Image:Wikignome.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ratiocinate (notify | contribs).

This image is on the Commons, but instead tagging it with {{ncd}}, I found a better one that's a png with transparency. commons:Image:Wikignome.png Rocket000 15:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Commons showing through. -- RG ² 22:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was:

Image:Girlsinshowerdormroom.jpg

Image:Girlsinshowerdormroom.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Backstab55 (notify | contribs).

Commons discussion is here- 64.178.96.168 17:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deleted here since it at Commons; the real deletion discussion is taking place there. —An gr 17:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Image:Coltonpaintball.jpg

Image:Coltonpaintball.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Furylust (notify | contribs).

Orphaned and unencyclopedic —An gr 17:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Sherby.jpg

Image:Sherby.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Succisa75 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned; self-made tag is dubious anyway. —An gr 17:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:OlegKvasha.gif

Image:OlegKvasha.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Nyi28nhl (notify | contribs).

Unencyclopedic. Lame attempt at lolcat-style image created to further the user's hero worship at Oleg Kvasha. Maralia 18:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Sulemanki.jpg

Image:Sulemanki.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Zaindy87 (notify | contribs).

Free license asserted, but has no OTRS ticket number. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 18:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I've gone ahead and deleted this image for now. There's no way for us to verify that this image has been released under a free license, and given the long list of image problems on the uploader's talk page, we have reason to be sure. I noticed he or she hasn't edited since October 17, but if the uploader can provide an OTRS ticket number for me to verify the status of this image, I will be happy to restore it. -- RG ² 11:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:PakArmyPuma.jpg

Image:PakArmyPuma.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Zaindy87 (notify | contribs).

Source page at Flickr shows non-commercial license. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 18:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Serbia_Air_Force_new_roundel.svg

Image:Serbia_Air_Force_new_roundel.svg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by R-41 (notify | contribs).

Orphan, possibly unfree. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 19:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:High_Income_country.png

Image:High_Income_country.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by BrendelSignature (notify | contribs).

erroneous map, missing marking of some of the countries listed on the source page (world bank), Czech Republic for instance (tswhy I noticed), but other missing countries mentioned on the discus. page for this image 195.113.197.50 19:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Image kept. -Nv8200p talk 21:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Joker knife.jpg

Image:Joker knife.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by CmdrClow (notify | contribs).

This image has a fair use rationale, but it hasn't source. David Pro 19:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Source added. --CmdrClow 04:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Image kept. -Nv8200p talk 21:23, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:GMail.JPG

Image:GMail.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Carlo222222 (notify | contribs).

Image has been replaced with a new screenshot depicting only the page. No pages use it, and it has been superseded by the new image. Tuvok[^T@lk/_{Improve me}] 20:15, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:shymmer.jpg

Image:Shymmer.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sethxy (notify | contribs).

I am the person that originally put up the picture of Shymmer. I was recently contacted by the *true* copyright holder, who asked that the picture be removed. Please remove the picture. Sethxy 22:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy deleted, copyvio – ABCD✉ 02:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Google Pavarotti logo.gif

Image:Google Pavarotti logo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Akcarver (notify | contribs).

Primary reason: the article Luciano Pavarotti doesn't mention this non-free logo in the text, except for the image caption. Secundary reason: no clear purpose of use description in the fair use rationale. Ilse @ 23:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; does not significantly increase readers' understanding of the article Luciano Pavarotti, as required by WP:NFCC#8. —Angr 09:09, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I have edited the Pavarotti page to restore the article info on the logo. I've also submitted a request to Google for Wikipedia to use the image, and will update the image page once I hear back from Google, or request an administrator delete it at that time.Alan 03:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Please understand (and make sure your contact at Google understands) that Wikipedia does not use images by permission. If Google doesn't release the image under a free license, meaning that anyone (not just Wikipedia) can use it or modify it for any purpose including commercial purposes, then Wikipedia can only use it under a fair-use claim and it is subject to all the restrictions at WP:NFC. And this image does not meet those restrictions, so unless Google releases it under the GFDL or an equivalent license, we can't use it even if they do give us permission. —Angr 05:38, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Image deleted. If permission is obtained, the image can be restored or re-uploaded -Nv8200p talk 21:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Killer774--).jpg

Image:Killer774--).jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Panicathedisco (notify | contribs).

The image is taken from a video game (one of the Halo series) and so the copyright does not lie with User:Panicathedisco. There are a group of similar images that indicate the difficulty setting of the game, this one represents "Legendary". The video games are copyrighted and so the image cannot be free. James086^{Talk | Email} 00:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]