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  • The uploader claims in the fair-use rationale that "The cover art can or could be obtained from Parlophone/EMI" however, neither EMI Music Group nor Kylie Minogue's official website acknowledges or displays the particular cover. I have a strong belief that the cover is fan made due to the Adobe Photoshop metadata listed at the bottom of the image article. Additionally, this cover has not been released on any other medium beyond Wikipedia, thus there is no verfiable proof that this is the official cover. Dancefloor royalty (talk) 14:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Kept.  Strong consensus entirely backed by policy.  Image is used to identify a piece of unfree media and enhance understanding; arguments to the contrary are unconvincing, given the usual batch of studies one could drag up from any teaching journal. WilyD 21:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Not fair use. This is illustrative but not informative and the precise description of the scene portrayed is not essential to the reader's understanding of the subject. It is being used in an infobox, not relating to CRITICAL commentary in the text. Unjustifiable as fails wp:nfc#8, by a long way. I also rather object to people simply changing the image to another screenshot and then closing the debate. Troikoalogo (talk) 11:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Strong Keep - This is petty. By your reasoning, no screencaps are permitted by the NFCC rules (which is untrue), and yet one screenshot does so much to inform the reader about the tone and general subject of the episode. Some screencaps are unjustifiable - an image of the Doctor smiling, for example, would be completely non-unique, and would do little to further the reader's understanding. A picture of a corrupted Miss Evangelista, however, is difficult to describe in words, and does so much towards aiding the user to get the 'feel' of the episode. One screencap per television show episode is easily justifiable. Finally, through your own admission, you appear to be arguing against the use of a screencap and not this screencap, in which case this is not the venue for discussion. On the article's talk page, it was decided that the Miss Evangelista was better suited to this article, so the other was in effect deleted, thus automatically closing the ongoing debate. "I also rather object to people simply changing the image to another screenshot and then closing the debate." - then you are not debating the deletion of this image, but rather the deletion of any image used as a screencap, and this is not the venue to do that. TalkIslander 14:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is very frustrating when an ifd takes effort to compile, submit, and notify, and people respond by repeatidly uploading a different random image not considering the wp:nfc guidelines and we have to go through the process again. I remember one ifd debate I was involved in and a member of WP:DW committeed himself to upload all 300,000 stills in an episode until one stuck! Fasach Nua (talk) 18:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On another point, a statement "One screencap per television show episode is easily justifiable" needs justification, it is entirely unsupported by WP:NFCC, which states "There is no automatic entitlement to use non-free content in an article" Fasach Nua (talk) 10:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment I would like to see at least one example (a few would be more helpful, to allow for a sort of triangulation since each instance will be specific to its context) of screencap use that satisfies fair use criteria, according to those involved in this attempted mass deletion of Doctor Who-related screencaps. Clearly, there is such thing as fair use of screencaps, as if the criteria ruled out all possible uses there would be a simple statement that there is no fair use of screencaps rather than a list of criteria that must be fulfilled. But it seems that those criteria, while useful guidelines, are too vague on their own for people to agree on what does and doesn't fulfill them. I do not feel that I can weigh in on whether or not this image is legitimately fair use without examples of what would be considered such. --Icarus (Hi!) 08:34, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Keep as those advocating deletion have apparently been unable to explain in unambiguous terms (i.e. through examples) what sort of screencaps are fairuse, despite being certain that this one is not. --Icarus (Hi!) 04:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep Doctor Who articles are in my view being targeted by people with points to make outside of the scope of the articles themselves, and this appears to be another example of this. As for this picture in this article, the picture is informative and illustrates something that is at best very difficult to describe and at worse impossible to describe. Jasonfward (talk) 14:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • delete Images fails wp:nfc#1, the article already contains the GFDL text "though was corrupted and caused her face to become severely disfigured while increasing her intelligence", which fulfils the function of this image, the image adds no further information wp:nfc#8, even without the text the insignificance of this component of the story would make it unwarranted Fasach Nua (talk) 18:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - This image is illustrative and does have a valid fair use rationale. It is an excellent choice in screencap to illustrate the episode and I think would be quite difficult to imagine the way in which the charcater has been disfugured, which has a "computer error" failure air to it rather than perhaps Quasimodo which some people may imagine without the help of this image. Million_Moments (talk) 20:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep, per TheIslander. ╟─TreasuryTag (talk ╬ contribs)─╢ 16:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep - as per Islander and Jasonfword. This is a power play, and these images are being used as pawns in that. This is a NEW image, and it fulfills all of the NFC criteria. I;ve asked the opposing folk (the one wanting deletion of every friggin' image under the sun) to name an image used in an episodic article. They wouldn't or couldn't name one. To my reckoning, that lends a LOT of credence to Jasonfword's accusation. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 18:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
question how does how she is disfigured matter to your understanding of the episode? Surely all you need to get across is that she is stored in a computer, which is hinted at due to this storage error Fasach Nua (talk) 10:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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duplicate nomination from Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2008 June 11#Image:Torchwood ep 1 Eve Myles.jpg.  — Edokter • Talk •  20:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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comment Tag the image with {{G7}} Fasach Nua (talk) 18:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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comment Tag the image with {{G7}} Fasach Nua (talk) 18:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP. cOPYRIGHT HAS EXPIRED... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.82.215.23 (talk • contribs)

Germany is life of the author plus 70 years. This is an image of a Sd.Kfz. 165/1 (first designed in late 1939). Let's assume the author took the photo, then died immediately; the photo would still not be PD until 2009. What is the basis for your assertion? ЭLСОВВОLД talk 16:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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On Commons - move along. WilyD 22:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Discuss? Actually the copyright is 70 years from the death of the creator. Since we don't know who created the image we have no way of knowing when he/she died. The image could well be from before 1938. Is there another acceptable use of this image with a different copyright tag? It is of a low quality, is used to only to provide a visual reference to the subject and is unobtainable anywhere else. Ozdaren (talk) 18:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdrawn this photo is undoubtedly PD-US. -Nard 14:12, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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