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Isn't these images duplicate?  , , , , ,-we got it. If I was an admin I would say delete those old images because I-AA (WA).svg, we got them all.--Freewayguy Discussions Show all changes 03:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't this a delete?To me these images look nearly exactly the same. I would say delete?What about you? This does not meet CSD so it needs to go throgh normal 10 days.--Freewayguy Discussions Show all changes 02:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gone from site. Queries delete byUser:Nv8200p.--Freewayguy Msg USC 03:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I an going to close this, because this image was delete by User:East718 on June 15, 2008.--Freewayguy Discussions Show all changes 21:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete If it is 'completely based on what the character wore in one episode of the show', then it is not a parody because there is no sense of "humorous or satiric imitation". Further, the image is fails WP:NFCC#4 (No publication outside Wikipedia) and WP:NFCC#8 (it does not increase the reader's understanding of the topic).

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Originally, this picture was a television screenshot and that the character wasn't wearing any garments. However, I edited it drastically such adding the dress and the shoes. Therefore, this is a parody. Parodies are derivatives of the original work.Megastar7 (talk) 07:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I′m not sure if its a notable parody that adds to the article. Anonymous101 (talk) 17:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The clothing I applied is completely based on what the character wore in one episode of the show. Also, I believe it does add to the article because it illustrates a unique appearance of the character. Megastar7 (talk) 17:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Source says "I take absolutely no credit for this photo. It was taken by a professional photographer as listed below. I would, however, be mighty glad to buy him a pint for capturing Scotland's finest ever moment in a football match - well, apart from maybe in 1967! Scotland's James Mcfadden scores during the UEFA European Championship Qualifying match at at Park des Princes, Paris. Picture date: Wednesday September 12, 2007. Photo credit should read: David Davies/PA Wire. THIS PICTURE CAN ONLY BE USED WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF AN EDITORIAL FEATURE. NO WEBSITE/INTERNET USE UNLESS SITE IS REGISTERED WITH FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION PREMIER LEAGUE. " Not under free license. -Nard 01:33, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--These image was delete by East718.--Freewayguy Discussions Show all changes 21:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Image of PD art. -Nv8200p talk 01:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Faithful reproduction of uncopyrighted image.Anonymous101 (talk) 18:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the fact that its in WP:PD, and on Commons, any photo/picture from flickr is acceptable as long as its checked as not copyrighting. It has no personality rights issues, but there would be if the person were included, so no personality rights issues. Good use of the image on its article page, no reason to delete. DA PIE EATER (talk) 23:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Non-free image of living person. Difficulty in obtaining that free image is almost never considered a defense. -Nv8200p talk 01:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Justice Gummow.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Peter Ellis (notify | contribs).
KEEP - The 'sponsor' of this deletion has been told in GREAT DETAIL why the official portraits of Justices of the High Court of Australia are among the very few available images of them, at all, let alone 'free' images. Please note that, unlike the American court system, the Australian court system does not allow (para 5.12-5.15) the taking of pictures, by Convention (norm). This extends to pictures of Judges, whose appearances in public are VERY few and far between, with perhaps some notable exceptions. - Peter Ellis - Talk 04:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As previously explained (in the "GRATE DETAIL" link you provided), this law only forbids the taking of photos inside the courtrooms. There's no reason to believe that, outside the courtrooms, these men are harder to flash than the ordinary semi-celebrity. Saying it's hard doesn't make it hard. We have failed before with Michael Kirby. We used to say that it was "virtually impossible" to flash him, just to discover that it was fairly easy. Unless we have some strong reason to believe it's "virtually impossible" to flash this man, we should not allow unlicensed images.--Damiens.rf 17:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And I have already explained why Kirby is an exception to that. Kirby is actively involved in human rights issues and gay rights issues and appears in public for that work. He has an unusual background for a judge in Australia, having done work for the United Nations in addition to his judicial background. Kirby is, however, an almost sole exception to the norm. Bill Gummow does not appear in public as he, like most other judges in the country does not get involved in external things as it may impair his judicial office. Have a look at Flickr, for example - why is it that there are no pictures (even fully copyrighted ones) whatsoever of any of the high court judges, yet these are some of the most important men and women in the country? It is simply because they don't appear in public. I will say it again - you do not understand the situation as you are not Australian. You need to stop trying to enforce your American understanding on a situation that differs greatly. JRG (talk) 00:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try to explain once and for all why your reasoning is broken: We need some strong reasons (i.e.: sources) to believe that these people don't appear in public at all. Until now, all we have is your testimony. Your testimony is not reliable, and had failed before: You once wrote a whole rationale explaining how it was "almost impossible" to take a picture of Judge Michael Kirby, just to be shown later that the guy is always appearing in public conferences.
The lesson to learn from the Kirby case is not that we should avoid unlicensed images of conference-giving judges. The lesson is that images of these judges should be considered replaceable unless some reliable source tells us (in a case-by-case basis) that this or that man is specially reclusive. Your testimony, either you like it or not, is not an acceptable reliable source. --Damiens.rf 02:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My reasoning is not broken. You simply do not understand what I am saying. I have explained for the millionth time that Kirby is an exception. I never said Kirby's photo was not replaceable - I found the photo myself. But Kirby's situation DOES NOT APPLY FOR OTHER JUDGES. I have explained that it is a convention that judges not appear in public. Conventions are not dictated by rules and therefore there is no source that will tell you that. There is no judicial rule that judges not appear in public, they just don't, apart from Kirby who, as I have already explained, has a very different background from the rest of them. We have to rely on the testimonies of Australian users who DO understand the Australian legal system and its conventions, none of whom have contradicted me. So for the last time, please accept what I and others are saying and understand that we are right. I am really starting to get tired of the ignorance displayed here. There has been no attempt to find any images to show whether I am wrong (and when I ask you to, you say that you simply don't have to). You want to keep wrecking pages and images that people have put work into and you don't care about what happens to them - none of these pages can ever become GA in the future, because we are not going to get a free image. It's as simple as that. You do not reply to my suggestions that there are NO images available on the web of Gummow other than the official ones - because they simply do not exist, because he does not appear in public. PLEASE understand this and stop being stubborn on your opinion - I know I am right. I can't show you any sources, because they don't exist. But it is true and others have supported me in that. JRG (talk) 07:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep per Peter Ellis and as I have already indicated in the previous debate. Apart from the few notable exceptions (such as Michael Kirby) it is practically impossible to get photos of an Australian judge. JRG (talk) 07:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Replaceable. Has anyone tried to contact the judge to get a free photo? (The high court's email is [email protected]) That would be one easy way to obtain one. I agree that there are no non-official photos of him on the internet (though one photo of a courtroom interior by a news photographer calls into question your claim that cameras are not allowed). In any event, he probably goes out in public from time to time, or someone who knows him may have a photo that can be uploaded. Mangostar (talk) 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • As I have already said, it can be deemed NOT replaceable because it is practically impossible to get a photo. Yes - contacting the court has been tried a while back, and they are not willing to give a free photo. The Australian is a media outlet and are occasionally allowed cameras, but personal ones are not allowed and the link Peter Ellis posted shows that they are in fact forbidden - they actually confiscate cameras and mobiles at the front door of the court if you go to see the court in session. It's exactly the same situation as parliament, although you can actually be fined and prosecuted for taking pictures in court. And as the rationale states, personal appearances would be limited and by invitation only and with usually no photographs taken. Judges are not like minor celebrities or even politicians where there are opportunities to get personal photographs - they don't generally appear in public by convention. To suggest "someone who knows him" might have a photo is unreasonable as a rationale against keeping this is unreasonable of itself - because there isn't someone who knows him around who can supply a photo, and even so it would definitely not be free use licensed. Why should we have unreasonable expectations of obtaining photographs when I have already demonstrated the practical impossibility of getting a photo at this point in time? JRG (talk) 13:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Non-free image of living person. Difficulty in obtaining that free image is almost never considered a defense. -Nv8200p talk 01:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Justice Heydon.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Peter Ellis (notify | contribs).
KEEP - The 'sponsor' of this deletion has been told in GREAT DETAIL why the official portraits of Justices of the High Court of Australia are among the very few available images of them, at all, let alone 'free' images. Please note that, unlike the American court system, the Australian court system does not allow (para 5.12-5.15) the taking of pictures, by Convention (norm). This extends to pictures of Judges, whose appearances in public are VERY few and far between, with perhaps some notable exceptions. - Peter Ellis - Talk 04:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep per Peter Ellis and as I noted in the previous debate - it is a practical impossibility to get a photo of an Australian judge apart from the very few noted exceptions like Michael Kirby. JRG (talk) 07:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Replaceable. Has anyone tried to contact the judge to get a free photo? (The high court's email is [email protected]) That would be one easy way to obtain one. It's not like he's a recluse either. Here's a 2007 visit to a law school, for example. Beyond that, he probably goes to the grocery store from time to time or walks in public streets. He is no different from the many many celebrities for whom it is difficult to get photos, but not impossible. Mangostar (talk) 22:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We have tried before - they don't give out photos and although they I believe were willing to display photos for research purposes they were not willing to allow Wikipedia to have free-licensed photos. The image was a specific invitation - and they come quite rarely. It's not like one of us can just order a specific invitation. The judge usually only makes "public appearances" in court which we can't access and is practically impossible to get a photo of. To say we can just find him is ridiculous - judges are not like politicians or celebrities where sightings are easy and the people are accessible at times. Judges are usually not accessible (Michael Kirby being the exception as discussed above). JRG (talk) 13:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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I agree with you in deleting this image, since both are digitalizations of the same picture. However, I believe that Image:Giuseppe Peano 1930.jpg has much better quality than Image:Giuseppe Peano.jpg. Regards, --Commonlingua (talk) 07:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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oh, please do delete this picture... also delete the other one, the duplicate of the picture...

since non of them are used anymore...

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