Wikipedia:Media copyright questions/Archive/Archive 4

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No appropriate image tag

For Image:hifives.jpeg, there doesn't seem to be an appropriate tag. The image is a press photo from the band's record label. I provided a link to the image, but the only tag that was close was maybe "album cover". Perhaps there should be a "press release" tag added?--googuse 02:30, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

{{promotional}} —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 23:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Fenway

How do I add on the copyright information for image Image:Fenway1.jpg???

It seems to have been added already. User:Angr 12:59, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Should I remove this Tag

I uploaded an image for which i forgot to give source, Later when asked to give the source i gave so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StarOne.jpg But what should do with that tag which says no source

Once you've added the source you can remove the "no source" tag. User:Angr 14:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Coat of arms question

Hi. OrphanBot has left a note on Image:University of Hertfordshire achievement of arms.png saying that coats of arms don't fall under the fair use policy. Why is this not okay but, say, Image:BBC_Coatofarms.JPG is? The Wednesday Island 22:48, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

OrphanBot just said that there's no fair use tag, not that the claim was invalid. {{coa}} makes no fair-use claims. In any case, I've added the appropriate tag. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 23:25, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Some picture copyright problems

I uploaded 6 images for various articles. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

Picture locations: Fing-Longer.JPG: [7] Tinomartinez.JPG:[8] Whatifmachine.JPG:[9] Smelloscope.JPG: [10] Probulator.JPG: [11]

Okay, I uploaded these pictures after searching for them on Yahoo.com Image Search. I have all the URL's of the locations of these pictures, but I'm not sure what I should exactly do with the copyright information. I know that Lancerlogo.JPG is a schoolboard logo, so that's fine (I think...?), but I'm not sure what I should do with the rest. Also, I'd appreciate it if someone messaged me on my 'Talk' just in case I forget to come back here and take a look at a response.

Thanks!

Nishkid64 00:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I would say the Futurama pictures are important to actually understanding what these devices are, and so are almost certainly fair use. I've tagged them appropriately. The image of Martinez, though, I'm more skeptical about, since it's quite possibly a stock image that's licensed to projects like encyclopedias (well, more likely news sources, but same principles), and we're doubtless cutting into its market, so I'd suggest you {{db-author}} that and try finding a {{promotional}}. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 23:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

U.S. gov materials?

I'm currently expanding the stub on Forbes State Forest, Pennsylvania. I have downloaded 2 images to my drive from the U.S. DCNR website. I'd like to upload these to commons and add them to the article but I'm clueless about the copyright issues that might be involved. Would it be acceptable to upload these images? If so, how should they be tagged? Thanks for your help. --Doc Tropics 17:18, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

• Note: I've uploaded the image and added it to the article but something is definitely not right. This is the first time I've uploaded an image that I didn't create myself. --Doc Tropics 20:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

The DCNR is not a part of the United States federal government; it's part of a state government. Its images are copyrighted and may not be used on Wikipedia except if you can make a case for fair use, which you can't. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 23:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying; I'll take it down. --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 01:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Australian medals

On Image:AO image1.jpg and other images on Australian Honours System, the uploader said that the images are "Australian Gvernment open source image". However, the Australian Government's copyright notice [12] looks like a by-nd-nc licence. So what is the correct tag? Thanks WP 06:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

The Australian government does not release its works into the public domain. The images must either be used under fair use or deleted. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Vogue cover of Lisa Fonssagrives

I would appreciate some other input on: Image:LisaFVogue.jpg. I have added the rationale, it is a low resolution image, it and the relationship between the magazine, the model and supermodels is discussed in the articles. This seems to me to be fair use. What am I missing? Thanks Doc 06:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

The degree of relevance required by Wikipedia policy appears to be unclear at the present time, or at least disputed. There are many who would agree with each of you. Hopefully soon Wikimedia's newly-appointed general counsel will help clear this whole business up. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Print press kits

In terms of verifiability, how can we verify if images come from press kits? e.g. Image:Tony Forsythe.jpg? This could be a still released for commercial gain, for example (as sold in art shops, etc.), rather than media reproduction. The JPS^{talk to me} 09:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

In general, claims that something is promotional should be ignored unless evidence is provided. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:35, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

images from CCTV and Surveillance are Public Domain?

I noticed Image:Carlie Brucia.jpg, which I tagged as {{fair use in}}, was re-tagged with {{PD-CCTV}}, which states:

This image is considered to be in the Public Domain in most jurisdictions, as images from CCTV and Surveillance cameras do not display creative authorship.

Is that correct? I am doubtful of this tag in general, but IANL, so would like some opinions. --Rob 16:14, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Good question. A priori it seems reasonable, but it would be better to get evidence to that effect before relying upon it. See also Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 July 4#Template:PD-CCTV. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Question about use of a video game instruction manual image

I recieved a note on my talk page about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mbplayers.jpg which I uploaded for the article Luigi. It's an image of the character who is the subject of the article, scanned from the Mario Bros instruction manual. I've since added more information to it, including fair-use rationale as a character image. Have I done this correctly? Also, I'm operating on the assumption that illustrations from game manuals are fair-usable as they are packaged as a part of the game, but I want to be certain. Is this an okay use? Thanks in advance. -- Lee Bailey^(talk) 17:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Since you've added the source, I've removed {{no source}}. You might want to mention who scanned it as well, but that's really not necessary since scanning doesn't add copyright. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:48, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks -- I didn't want to remove the no source template myself unless I knew that I'd fixed the issue. I'm not 100% certain of the origin of the scan, as it has been on my hard drive for rather a while. I do in fact have the instruction manual in question, so I can verify that's what it's a scan of. If it's required to know who scanned this, I'll just rescan the thing myself (although I'd feel a little silly) but if doesn't make any difference, I'll leave it as is. -- Lee Bailey^(talk) 21:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't make a difference. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 04:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

About Image: Dulcebeat.jpg

I got this message "Thanks for uploading Image:Dulcebeat.jpg. Wikipedia gets hundreds of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images." But I really don't understand what to do. Could someone please help me?

--Hearts of Clear Lake 23:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I fixed the {{Albumcover}} tag you had. (You wrote {{[[Albumcover]]}} instead of simply {{Albumcover}}.) Now, as the tag says, you need to add the source (did you scan it yourself directly from the album? Did you take the image from a website?) and a fair use rationale. See Help:Image page for more information. User:Angr 07:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

How can I fix my issues?

Ok, OrphanBot is constantly hounding me about the two pictures I put into the Heroes Day Parade article (Image:911Sticker.jpg and Image:PFP03_1.jpg). No matter what I change, I always seem to get it wrong. The thing is, those are my pictures. I took them with my own camera. How can I get OrphanBot off my back?

--BlaculaDave

They look okay now, but it would help if you were more explicit that the uploader is also the photographer, especially since your username is not particularly close to your real name. User:Angr 06:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I added the information. howcheng {chat} 18:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Free image replacement of Stephen Harper

I tried to replace the main bio pic of Stephen Harper from Image:Harpers.jpg (official PM photo tagged {{Canada-politician-photo}} which is non-free) to Image:Stephen Harper head.jpg ({{Copyrighted free use}} in Commons). Obviously the free Commons image is lower quality, but it, IMO, still serves the role the main bio pic, which is simply to show what somebody looks like. I've been reverted, and now I would like an outside opinion. --Rob 16:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, you should not have been reverted. There are simply a lot of people who either do not know about, or do not agree with, our policy of preferring freely-licensed content. I'll leave a note at Talk:Stephen Harper. Jkelly 16:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[13]

Robin Hood 1212 17:48, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

What's the question here? howcheng {chat} 18:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe they want to know how to tag Image:PAgovernorates.gif. Unfortunately, I don't see any indication on the source site that the map is not restrictively copyrighted. There doesn't seem to be a case for its fair use in its article either, so it will likely have to be deleted. ×Meegs 09:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Lack of copyright? It's there!

I got a message: "This is an automated notice by OrphanBot" about the copyright status of Image:Z18oa-storyzelda.gif or the lack of it. Accoring to him, that is. Because I put the copyright with the image, so I don't really understand the problem. Hyrule 07:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Orphan bot isn't a him, it's an it. It's a bot that checks to see if images have copyright tags, which are all in the form of templates. Simply saying "Copyright by Nintendo of Japan, taken from their official website" isn't actually good enough; you need to provide the URL from which you got the image, and an appropriate copyright tag. Since this image is most likely not released under a free license, you need to use one of the "fair-use" tags, and you will also need to provide a detailed fair use rationale explaining why this image is indispensable in the article where it's being used. User:Angr 08:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Maywati.jpg

I have taken this photograph myself. Now the question how do I prove this or that any of the photgraph taken bby me are mine and not someone elses? Is there any proof that I am amolakh and not some one. Of late Wikipedia has turned into a the kingdom of a few who do as they please is there any place I can take this up or is wikipedia also an microsoft now —The preceding unsigned comment was added by —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amolakh (talk • contribs) 2006 July 9 09:04.

This image was deleted in May because you gave no indication that you were the photographer. We are very cautious and delete images of unknown origin in order to avoid violating the copyrights of others. Since the image has been deleted, you will need to upload it again. This time, please indicate that you are the photo's creator in the summary field and choose an appropriate license from the drop-down menu. For your other photos, such as Image:Chini Ka Roza.jpg , you chose "PD (self made)", releasing the images to the public domain; thank you for these contributions. ×Meegs 09:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Lester B. Pearson photo, free or fair?

Wikipedia has the fair use image Lesterbpearson.PNG tagged as {{Canadian-politician-photo}}

Commons has the free image Pearsonofficialphotoportrait.jpg tagged as {{Copyrighted free use}}

The two images seem to be from the same original, only differing minor things like size, format, and brightness/shade. The Commons image is is based on what I think is the original from here as a jpg image.

Both attribute the same source (Libraries and Archives Canada) but cite different terms. I beleive (hope) Commons is correct, and Wikipedia is wrong. But I would like opinions on which is the appropriate license. --Rob 10:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

The original source you gave states "Restrictions on use/reproduction: Nil", which certainly sounds like {{No rights reserved}} to me. User:Angr 10:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Why do we have a photograph in PNG format? In any case, Library and Archives Canada is very clear about the licensing of its Canadian images (although it marks many things as PD which are not created by Canadians and therefore not PD outside of Canada). The Commons tag is correct. Jkelly 16:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Miamidolphins_saban.jpg + Fair Use Question

I just uploaded Miamidolphins_saban.jpg under the same fair usage as used for Dick_vermeil.jpg in the Dick Vermeil article. I believe the Saban image qualifies under the same usage as the Vermeil image. After I uploaded it, I got a message on my talk page saying that I had not included a "fair use rationale" even though I had. I edited the image to place the actual words "Fair Use Rationale:" before my usage sentence. I removed the warning that the bot placed on the image page as well.

My question is will the bot still delete my image at the end of the one-week period? I changed the fair use rationale but I'm not sure if it went through the system? Can an admin make sure that the image is okay and won't get auto-deleted? Gonk 23:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Miamidolphins saban.jpg isn't currently tagged for deletion, but see Wikipedia:Image description page for what a "fair use rationale" should look like. It's not a good image to claim "fair use" on; it is possible for a freely-licensed image to replace it. Jkelly 23:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Flatfoot56wallpaper.PNG

I copied this picture from their official website here under the multimedia section. It states it is copyright 2005 but I was unsure what copyright temlate it would fit under here. --WillMak050389 03:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I have set the copyright as a promotional image, but I am still somewhat unsure if this is correct. Please inform me if it should be changed or if this is the correct tag. --WillMak050389 14:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

SELF designation tags

SELF designation tags inherently indicate the source of the upload as being the uploader. If you require specific identification then please include a copyright information template on the upload page and specify that a SELF designation tag also requires specific identification of the uploader as the source if the uploader as source can no longer be assumed.

 {{Information
 |Description=
 |Source=
 |Date=
 |Author=
 |Permission=
 |other_versions=
 }}

...IMHO (Talk) 17:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Are all whitehouse.gov images PD?

For example, this one has no authorship or license information that I can find. But we're claiming that it is PD at this crop of it. Anybody know? Jkelly 20:04, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Not for sure, but I suspect that any non-PD images at whitehouse.gov (or any other Federal Government website) would be clearly marked as such. I didn't go burrowing around whitehouse.gov to find a copyright statement, but I know at other government websites you can find statements to the effect that everything is public domain unless marked otherwise. User:Angr 20:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that if you can't find a copyright notice, you send an e-mail asking about it. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 03:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

how do i Set the source?

How do i Type in the Source to an image and select the correct Tag?

I might be able to help. Can you give me a link to the image? --WillMak050389 00:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Check the history and browse to logs. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 03:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

To indicate the source, just type where you found it on the image description page. Selecting a correct tag is much more complicated; assuming you didn't get the author's permission, given the images' dates, you'll have to consider all of the fair use criteria and explain why you think your image's use fits them. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 03:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

About map of Scandinavia

I've got it from wiki-travel, under scandinavia. And use it in Scandinavia

So it has copyrights --Comanche cph 12:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what Wikitravel's image policies are, but to judge by http://wikitravel.org/en/Image:ScandinaviaColour3.png it seems that Wikitravel content in general is licensed as CC-BY-SA 1.0. It was uploaded there by a certain Jelse, who also has an account at Swedish Wikipedia, but he doesn't seem to be active at either Wikitravel or Wikipedia anymore. It seems like it ought to be easy enough to find or create a similar map of Scandinavia whose licensing we're sure of, though. User:Angr 13:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Copy right information

Hi,

I copied this file from the following link:

http://www.keral.com/celebrities/onv/album.htm The webpage shows the following info regarding copyright. Copyright © 2000 Guildsoft India Pvt. Ltd. All rights reserved

Can you please advise me as to what copyright tag would suit this one??—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jin1jil (talk • contribs)

Looks like {{imagevio}}. Jkelly 16:29, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Box arts

Since User:Carnildo is using a bot to tag {{nosource}} at MANY images, many video game covers were removed. What is needed besides a link to the game page and {{gamecover}}? igordebraga ≠ 13:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Examples, please? According to the bot's log, it has never tagged a {{gamecover}} image as {{nosource}}. --Carnildo 19:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Carnildo, it wasn't yourself. But examples include: Image:F-zero-gx.jpg[14] and Image:Super Smash Bros Melee Players Ch.jpg [15]. What do we need? igordebraga ≠ 14:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

A statement like "Cover of <insert game here>, copyright by <insert copyright holder here>". Enough information to figure out the source without having to see the image. --Carnildo 19:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

But such sourcing is noncritical, and covers shouldn't be deleted just because nobody bothered to add it. Yes? —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Every cover should be sourced as Carnildo suggests (digitization credit not required), but deletion {{nsd}} is not the place to jump when it is missing. In most cases, it is just as easy to find and add the information than it is to process the image for deletion. ×Meegs 22:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Unreleased album cover Image:Camille (front alt).jpg

Hi. I love your site. It's FANTASTIC! I am having trouble uploading the picture of the unreleased album Camille by Prince (musician). The picture was sent to me by a friend who got it from someone else and we have no idea who the original source is from. This is a very rare find as most fans have never even seen it before but have only heard about it. The back of the album (also attempted to be uploaded by me) has the album catalog number on it. Other than this info I have no other details about the source of the picture. What can I do to get these 2 pix posted? Thanks.

--Solrpony 13:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Unpublished works receive tremendous protection under U.S. copyright law. As such, we have a policy barring their inclusion under the fair use exception (see criterion #4). Thanks for trying to contribute, but unfortunately it's not going to work-out in this case. ×Meegs 14:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

What tag to use when I donate my own pics?

Every so often I upload a pic, either for an article, or in the most recent case, to my user page and get a notice about using the proper tag, apparently because I didn't. But usually they're either my own pictures, taken by me, or by my late father; and I usually put "PD:self-made, donate to public domain/release all rights" in the tag drawbar; looks like this didn't work on this submission for some reason but even when it has I still get this kind of notice. What am I doing wrong? And is this the appropriate tag to use for self-donated images? In this case it was taken by a professional photographer, but I own the copyright/negative (it's an actor's headshot I didn't use).Skookum1 23:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that you're looking for {{PD-self}}. Jkelly 23:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it acceptable to use pictures in Wikipedia in my own website?

Is it acceptable to use pictures in Wikipedia in my own website? Acknowledging the source, of course!

Yes, unless they're being used here under a "fair-use" claim. For the free licensed images, make sure to follow the conditions under which the image is licensed. The conditions of the GFDL are somewhat complicated but definitely include the fact that your re-use has to list all the authors who have contributed to it (in the case of an image this is unlikely to be anyone but the original author) and has to be licensed under the GFDL (you can't claim copyright on it), and you have to include the entire text of the GFDL to accompany any material licensed under it. CC-BY requires attribution of the author, and CC-BY-SA additionally requires that your re-use also has to be licensed under CC-BY-SA. Anything in the public domain can be re-used at will, though acknowledging the source is polite (especially if it's an image made by a Wikipedian, as opposed to something in the public domain for being a work of the U.S. government, or being old). User:Angr 14:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Can we use Encarta.au pictures??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ahmad_shah_massoud.jpg

http://au.encarta.msn.com/media_941505923_761569370_-1_1/Ahmad_Shah_Masud.html

I want to use this picture.

But I am not sure if I can.

Can someone please help?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tajik-afghan (talk • contribs) 2006 July 14 20:44 UTC.

Thanks.

Corbis is a stock photography company; licensing images is how they make their money. Unfortunately, since using the image may affect their business, we can not make a reasonable fair use claim. ×Meegs 20:56, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Back to the Future.jpg

Is this screenshot in fair use in Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd articles? I think it collides with for identification and critical commentary on the film and its contents part of the rationale? Or am I missing something? Thank you. --Branislav Jovanovic 13:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I would not consider it to be fair use in any article other than the film, or possibly the studio. Stifle (talk) 10:15, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you - I was thinking along those lines, but I couldn't verify it. I have a dispute with user on sr: who is using that shot to ilustrate the Michael J. Fox article there, claiming "fair use" because it is used the same way on en:. --Branislav Jovanovic 12:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• If the image is being used in commentary about Fox's performance in that movie in particular, then fair use can apply. It's a narrow definition though. The image can't be used just to illustrate Fox. --Durin 13:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

copyrights

Someone posted that I hadn't put the proper copyright info for this photo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PL-amphitheater.jpg

Well, for the life of me, I can't figure out your goofy meta language to make it happen. I've been trying for the last 10 minutes to copy and paste the text for the GFDL rights, or whatever the .... they are, but they won't take.

So if you don't want my photo, then delete it, or put the copyright in for me. But I can't figure out your complicated tags.

I have tagged the image correctly. User:Angr 14:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Angr. I tried for 10 or 15 minutes and it just wouldn't work. I'd copy and paste the copyright info, and it would never appear on the page.

Adding Tag

Hello, Iam new to this place. I had uploaded the File:MindTree logo.PNG . The image was given to me from MindTree with the authority to use it. How do I put a tag on this and what tag must I put in? thanks, Vinod

Sorry, Wikipedia can't use images by permission. User:Angr 14:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

To clarify, Wikipedia is an open content encyclopedia, and aims for its content to be modifiable and reusable by anyone. Therefore, "Wikipedia can use this" is insufficient justification for us to be able to use anything. However, the image may be usable under fair use; used in the article about MindTree, specifically, a tag of {{logo}} would undoubtedly be appropriate, and in fact Image:MindTree Logo.gif is being used with this tag already. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 19:17, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Use of images from clothing brands

I was wondering, if it's allowed to use images from (sports)clothes to illustrate an article? And than I mean images I found on a site from lets say Adidas or a similar brand. And if it's allowed, what license should I give it then? If someone answers, I'd like to be notified on my talk page, so I know someone gave an answer. Thanks in advance --Jort227 17:47, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

If you use a logo to illustrate an article about the brand that uses that logo, the correct tag is {{logo}}. If the image's use is different, it may or may not be acceptable; we'd need more info to give an answer on that. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 19:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Well I don't really mean a logo, but actually I mean a real piece of equipment. Actually a picture like this one. Are images like that allowed, since they do have a brand logo on them, and i'm not sure if clothing images are copyrighted or not. And if I can use it, once again what copyright tag should I give to it :-)? --Jort227 19:40, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

First, I'd say such a picture is acceptable if the photograph itself is freely licensed or released into the public domain by the photographer. (In other words, a photo like the one you linked to, but that you took yourself, is okay; the photo you linked to itself isn't.) As for the logo, I think it depends on what you're using the photograph for. If you want to show what the suit looks like, and it happens to have the logo on it, it should be okay; no fair-use claim is necessary. But if you're taking a picture of the suit for the purposes of illustrating the logo, then it's essentially a derivative work from the logo and would require a fair-use claim and rationale. There isn't a clear line, though: an extreme close up of the logo is clearly a derivative work, while a photo of the suit where the logo can hardly be seen is clearly not one; but there's a spectrum in between. User:Angr 20:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok so in other words, when I read this line: "a photo like the one you linked to, but that you took yourself, is okay; the photo you linked to itself isn't", I can't use the picture I linked to? Nor can I use any kind of picture that is like the one I linked to :-)? --Jort227 20:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

You can't use the very photo you linked to, because you (presumably) are not the photographer. However, if you have a wrestling suit like that in your possession (or can get access to one), you can take a photo of the suit yourself, which you can use. User:Angr 20:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Add a copyright

I don't understand how to add a copyright to an image I just uploaded

Image:Themes.jpg

--Julie 14:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

What is it, a screenshot of a computer game? User:Angr 15:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Tags for picture

i have recently uploaded two pictures: Image:Student Services East Side2.JPG and Image:performingarts.jpg. I have listed the website where they came from, but i need to but tags on the picutres. What do I do? Thanks

Unlike most websites, Wikipedia has strictly-enforced rules regarding the copyright of its content. Therefore, you not only have to provide a source, but a reason for why it's legal and appropriate for us to use the image. Like most reasonably recent works, the image you uploaded is probably under copyright; any work first published since 1989 anywhere in the world is automatically copyrighted under US law, as well as any unpublished work, and copyright typically only expires seventy years after the author's death. (Works published before 1989 are much trickier.)

If you would like to use such an image on Wikipedia, therefore, you should ask the author to release their image under a "free" license such as the GFDL, which allows anyone to freely modify, redistribute, and sell their works, with some provisos (see the article for some more details). If the author is unwilling to release their work under a free license, then the image might possibly be usable under our very strict fair use policy. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 00:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

If these are images of schools in your town, the best thing to do is photograph them yourself. I have removed the {{copyrightedFreeUse}} tag from the first image; unless there is conclusive evidence to the contrary, we must assume that all contemporary photographs are restrictively copyrighted. ×Meegs 01:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Tagging image

Don't know how to tag an image that is my personally and created by me.

Are you the photographer? Because in the image description page you wrote "donated by agency" which suggests you aren't. User:Angr 06:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

No but the image is copyrighted to me.

Please explain how you obtained copyright of the image. Note that merely owning all copies of the image doesn't confer copyright; the copyright must be specifically assigned to you in writing. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The Sound of music image

Dear Sir or Madam,

My suggestion is that you provide new users(like me) with example tags, they only need to fill up.Like the German page:

• Bildbeschreibung: ...
• Quelle: ...
• Fotograf/Zeichner: ...
• Datum: ...
• Sonstiges: ...

Thank You,

Georg2006_en

missing copyright info on image

I have tried to follow the copyright instructions but don't understand what I have done wrong. Can you advise? Thanks Image:Firebeetraining.jpg --Cadnoess 09:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It's lacking source information. Are you the photographer? User:Angr 09:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes. I thought I credited myself using the licence tag. What else do I have to do? Thanks! --Cadnoess 09:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

hey how are you

i formated my computer but windows media player dont work

This is the incorrect place to ask. Wikipedia is not a general technical support forum. If you would like help, I suggest you find one of many such places online. You could also try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Can someone tag an image for me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Humphrey_2005_240x180.jpg

I'm sort of new to Wikipedia, and I'm too lazy to figure out how to properly tag it on my own. Thanks! :)

Providencia Paredes

Can someone help me tag this image

Image:Pararedespr.jpg.

It appears in the article for Providencia Parades. Any helpw ill be truly apprecriated. --XLR8TION 05:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Cleovictoria.JPG

i always tag imaged and i filled one out for this image, so weird. i dont know how to tag it now that its allready been added. i took the pic myself for wikipedia to use, but only for wikipedia and other wiki stuffQrc2006 05:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

• Images for Wikipedia's use only are not permitted and will be speedy deleted. Unless you wish to release Image:Cleovictoria.JPG under a different license, it can be deleted using the tag {{db-noncom}}. BigDT 00:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

201b_03b.jpg‎

how do I tag this image 201b_03b.jpg‎.? The image is an official potrait made by the Malaysian Armed Forces in 1962. the potrait is in common use at many Malaysian websites, including those hosted by the Malaysian Armed Forces, and Malaysian public entities such as the Kedah Library Corporation.

• I do not see any image by this name. Could it be named something else? BigDT 00:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Maria Celeste Arraras

Can someone properly label the photograph of her outside the Today Show in New York. It was from a New York Times article.

The links is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mcatoday.jpg --XLR8TION 18:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

• Photos from news media sources are not generally allowable. Please see item #5 under the "counterexamples" section of Wikipedia:Fair use. BigDT 00:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Card Game scan

What kind of copyright tag would a scan of a trading card get? This goes for everything from Baseball Cards to Magic: The Gathering TCG. H2P 08:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

If the card is not subject to copyright because of its age, {{PD-US}}. If the card is copyrighted, then I would assume {{Non-free fair use in}}. Please see the images on Magic: The Gathering - they use {{Non-free fair use in}} (as well, in some cases, as a permission tag). Please make sure that if you use a card as "fair use", that the subject of the article is the card itself and that you are not using the card to illustrate the person whose picture is on the card. In other words, using a Michael Vick football card to illustrate the Michael Vick article would NOT be considered fair use. Also, as a note, several cards on Baseball card and similar articles are incorrectly tagged as GFDL even though the image is obviously copyrighted. Those probably need to be deleted. BigDT 21:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

That could cause the problem. The cards in question are allyafiko.jpg and allykinto.jpg and two others. The articles they are on, Minor secondary characters of Avatar: The Last Airbender, can allow for the assumption that I'm only using the card because we have no picture of the characters. Which is mostly true. However, unlike baseball cards, we really don't have pictures of these characters as they have yet to appear in the shows and are only referenced in the card game. I'll put the {{Non-free fair use in}} tag and hope no problem arises. Thanks. H2P 21:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

That looks reasonable to me. The thing about "fair use" is that there is exact standard. So sometimes, good, well-meaning people can disagree about what is "fair use". But in my mind, from what you have said - that these characters do not exist apart from the cards - the use of those card on that page would constitute "fair use". BigDT 21:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Need help selecting correct licensing tag

I work in Marketing for DePaul University. I want to add a photograph to the Wiki entry for DePaul. This photo was taken for us by a photographer who then assigned all rights to DePaul, so we can use it however we wish, including on the Web. We have selected one of these photos to post to Wikipedia. I have corporate permission to do this.

I am not clear what the best licensing tag is for this purpose. I tried to use Fair Use in DePaul University, but on my test page, this popped up for Speedy Deletion. The photo was not ever used for a publicity kit, so it seems misleading to label it at a promopublicity photo.

What do you suggest?

Kris

The best thing to do would be for DePaul to release the photo under a free license, such as the GFDL or Creative Commons BY-SA. You can also multilicense the image under both licenses. User:Angr 18:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Good grief, make up your mind!

Thanks so much for telling me what I should do, then telling me I shouldn't have done it.

Anyhow, this relates to Image:FAQ Farm pig.jpg, which I got permission to use here on Wikipedia. I've since asked for GFDL or CCA-SA licensing, but the instructions the system threw into the image page are completely confusing. I understand the hangon template tag, but I see no db-reason template reference in there. Where the heck is it, and where do I put it? --Joe Sewell 20:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you have permission to distribute the image under the GFDL license? If so, just erase all of the stuff there and add {{GFDL}} to the image description page. You should also tell the exact source of the image and how the permission was given (by personal correspondance, disclaimer on the website, etc). Similarly, if you have permission to distribute it under another license in Category:Image copyright tags, just replace the description page with the appropriate tag and be sure to tell the source of the permission. If the claim of permission is dubious or vague, it is likely that the image will be deleted later, so it is best to be as detailed as possible. I hope that helps. Please feel free to contact me if I can be of further assistance. BigDT 21:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Ralphnorman.jpg

I'm not sure what tag to use. You can see the origin and explanation on the comments.

--Chuchunezumi 01:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

• That's a good question ... I went ahead and tagged it as {{PD-because}}. Does anyone have a better tag for it? Chuchunezumi, did the individual you corresponded with tell you why it is public domain? In other words, are all works of the SC government public domain? Are all works of the legislature public domain? If there is some hard and fast rule, then a specific tag could be made for it. BigDT 02:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

• • After review, it is my understanding that everything contained on www.scstatehouse.net are items that the South Carolina General Assembly has released as public domain. The entire website was created by law to be for public domain use, as the official information website of the General Assembly. I do not, however, have information to indicate all state websites (such as www.sc.gov) are public domain. I think that it would be a good idea to make a tag saying that items like there are made public by the South Carolina General Assembly's official website, and that any items on their website can be considered public domain.

Could you provide the exact wording of Mr. Brickle's statement to you? No offense, but many people don't realize there's a difference between "in the public domain" and "permission to use", or what have you. The exact wording can be important. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:13, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Image Licencing

"If you did not create this image but want it to be used on Wikipedia, there are two ways to proceed. First, you may replace this message with one of the fair use tags from this list if you believe one of those fair use rationales applies to this image. Second, you may want to contact the copyright holder and request that they make the media available under a free license."

I do not understand how i can "replace this message", do you mean edit? Secondly, i have contacted the staff at www.residentevilfan.com and asked for permission to use information and images on their website to upload/add onto Wikipedia and notified them of what i want to do, however, how do i make sure that they have made the media available under a free licence? What does that mean and how does it work?

From,

Izmail2006

First of all, to change the license given for an image, just edit the image's page, yes. Second of all, a free content license irrevocably permits anyone to redistribute, modify, and sell the work in question with no restrictions except possibly attribution (and/or copyleft, but you can ignore that for now because it's confusing). Giving Wikipedia alone permission to use the image in certain contexts is not good enough to make the image "free". Examples of free licenses are the GFDL and Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Example requests for permission for some ideas on what you need to ask for. --Sherool (talk) 21:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Photograph of a copyrighted entity

If I take a photograph, which for the most part consists of a copyrighted entity, am I bound by the copyright on that entity? Some examples: a picture of statue; a picture of a billboard; a picture of a car. (cars [and their design] are copyrighted, right?) Saeed Jahed 07:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Your photograph of a copyrighted object is considered a derivative work. If you want to use such a photo at Wikipedia, you will still have to make a fair use claim (using the template {{Statue}}, which applies to 3-dimensional copyrighted works in general, not just statues). Car designs, however, are not copyrighted, as they are not considered to meet the threshold of originality, so you can use photos of cars freely. User:Angr 08:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

In general, a photo where the copyrighted aspect is minor (like a picture of someone wearing a shirt with a logo on it, with store signs in the background) can be considered non-derivative. That doesn't apply if you want to use it to actually illustrate the copyrighted part, though. It's a pretty fuzzy distinction, either way. As for cars, some aspects of car designs might be copyrightable, insofar as they are original and embody aesthetic rather than functional concerns, but in a typical picture of a car the derivative elements would be so minor as to probably be irrelevant. I would say pictures of cars shouldn't be viewed as derivative. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 22:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Uncertain about Copyrights for album cover images

I'm not certain if I did this correctly. Image:ForeverEverlasting.jpg

Help appreciated --Sycotherejekt 09:30, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Almost. I added one critical part, the image copyright tag — in this case {{albumcover}} — to the image's description page, here. ×Meegs 10:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks for the help! :) --Sycotherejekt 13:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't know what to do!

I upload most images to Wiki Commons, but this image is not an old artwork. It was created in the 1980s for the Abbey of St Denis, burial place of Frenck Kings, and first Gothic building in the world.

Because most stained glass, of whatever age, is found in public or church spaces, it's usually reproduced without a problem. This is a modern window at a World Heritage site, and is a particularly good example of a modern creation in a historically sensitive environment. I have been unable to locate the name of the artist to seek permision to use it.

My opinion is that because of the significance of the site and the quality of the work, it makes a significant contribution to part of an article dealing with modern stained glass. It ought to be Fair Use, but I could not find anything in the box that was the right label. Would someone more knowledgable check it out, please? I've used the pic on the Stained glass page.

--Amandajm 04:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I would just use {{Non-free fair use in}} and write a good explanation. Basically, say what you said here - free examples of modern stained glass are not available, you took the photo, etc. BigDT 01:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Government publicity photo

Image:Tonicolor2003.jpg
I have used the government PD tag before but it was for/from a Federal position (congress). It appears that local government does not fit the bill for that tag. Please let me know what I can do to keep this image on WP. Since I have seen another site use it and I know they have a legal department that wouldn't subject them to violation of anyone's copyright, I am of the mind that if it's posted on their government (local) hosted site detailing their bio, it is subject to fair use. --Geneb1955^Talk/_CVU 12:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I have tagged it as {{Non-free fair use in}}. BigDT 01:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Photo owner permission

I have an email permission from the photo owner, the museum curator, to use the photo. What tag do I use on the photo to maintain it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Alter_auto_1.jpg

The permission you listed on the image description page is insufficient "You have our permission to use one of the photos of the Alter Car." Images muse be licensed under a "free license". In other words, they would have to release the image into the public domain, under the GFDL, or otherwise release all rights to it. Please see Category:Image copyright tags for a list of image copyright tags. It is unlikely that this image is going to apply. BigDT 01:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

No source and no rationale

Hi. I noticed that Image:10dr19.jpg had been tagged with {{no source}} and {{no rationale}}. The uploader, Aquanostra9 (talk · contribs), hasn't edited since April 19, and probably will not receive the notification. The image in question is a collage of promotional images from Doctor Who, illustrating the ten versions of the programme's lead character. Would {{promotional}} or {{promophoto}} cover the no source and no rationale concerns? If not, what would be required? If the uploader's involvement is required, there's an older image serving the same purpose at Image:10docs.jpg, uploaded by Khaosworks — it's justified by {{tv-screenshot}}, even though I think it's a combination of promotional images and screenshots. Is that any better? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 22:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

The source is where they got the images, if you would like to use {{promotional}} that usually means a press kit or something similar. Images need to have a source and a license, which are different. The image may be fair use but we also need to know where the images came from. The uploader's involvement isn't necessarily required, but some indication of where the images came from would be. (not the website he copied them from but, maybe the BBC?). The rationale is some text about why we can use copyrighted images, probably not a tag in this case, but actual text on the image page. For more information about that see Wikipedia:Fair use. Here are some examples of fair use rationales. Hope that helps. - cohesion 02:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, I think I've taken care of it. If someone who's au fait with the fair use requirements could check the image page to make sure everything is kosher, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 00:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Bolivian president image

I can't seem to find an appropriate tag for this image [16] the image was taken from the official Bolivian Ministry of the Presidency online gallery of images of presidents. [17] How should I tag this image? I think it's a kind of fair use, since it's a government document. Right? I'd like to start uploading more of these, in entries on other Bolivian presidents.--Mcentellas 16:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

It depends on how the government licenses their images. Fair use depends not on who created the image, but how you are using it. It's a common misconception that all government documents are public domain. Federal documents and images from the US are, and a few other countries, but most countries retain copyright. Unless you have some evidence that Bolivia doesn't the images are probably not ok to use here. For more information about fair use at wikipedia check out our fair use criteria - cohesion 01:32, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Items like this document on Bolivian copyright law suggest that Bolivian copyright laws are more than lax. Having lived in Bolivia, I've also noticed that. For example, the portraits of Bolivian presidents are regularly sold in various shops by various presses, w/ no copyright (or "derechos reservados") tags.--Mcentellas 17:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Would this be subject to copyright?

Image:HardyBlack+White.jpg This image is an adaption, by a clerical worker in MIT's mathematics department, of a scan of my Massachusetts driver's license. It has been several years since I lived in Massachusetts or had that driver's license. I doubt it's subject to copyright. Does anyone have any hard information about this. Michael Hardy 21:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

There are two potential copyrights involved; those of the state of Massachusetts (need to determine how they license their driver's license images) and the derivative work created by the clerical worker if they had any creative input. Jkelly 02:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It's likely copyrighted. See discussion at Template talk:Mugshot. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 20:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Another Non-US Public domain

The image at 02321815opa.gif is listed by the government of Canada's patent office as available for world inspection here. How should this be listed? Zghost 11:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

"Available for inspection" is not the same as "free to copy, redistribute, modify, and sell". It must be used under fair use if it's used at all. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 20:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The Canadian Govt. is using it to identify it. The copyright permission notice says:

Non-commercial Reproduction

Except as otherwise specifically noted, the materials on this site may be reproduced, in whole or in part, and by any means, without charge or further permission from CIPO, provided that:

• due diligence is exercised in ensuring the accuracy of the materials reproduced;
• CIPO be identified as the source department; and
• the reproduction is not represented as an official version of the materials reproduced, or as having been made, in affiliation with or with the endorsement of CIPO.

so which fair use covers the identification of an object? Zghost 20:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

That copyright license is unfree, since it prohibits modification and commercial redistribution. Whether it would qualify as fair use depends on where you would want to use it. What page do you want to use it for? —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 21:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

too complicated, not worth the hassle. Thanks anyhow, though. Zghost 07:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

unable to understand copyright details

I took some images from my college website to include in wikipedia page about my college . I want to give the copyright to my college and i want to mention that. Apart from that i have my own images and i need copyright for them. Please help me i am unable to understand the techical stuff. I mean the language is too hard to understand.--Pranav 12:12, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Please clarify. Who created the images? What exactly are they images of? If you created the images (e.g., you took the pictures), then you must release them under a free license. If the college created the images, one or two might be usable as fair use. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 20:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)