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Didier Drogba

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I've listed this article for peer review at the suggestion of Oldelpaso, after I nominated it as a featured article candidate (see the discussion here). Apparently there's a few issues in some parts of the article, including the lead which is too long according to the peer review tool, and I'd like some help to take it up to FA-class. Thanks. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 16:25, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A few quick comments - I was asked to stop by and say a few words...

Avoid using the same item to link to different things, e.g. you have Ligue 1 blue-linked twice in a paragraph, but leading to different targets, very confusing.
Avoid overlinking in general, e.g. you have Chelsea linked in the opening para of the lead and third para of the lead.
" He made his last appearance for Chelsea..." is this still relevant since he's re-"signed?
"Drogba's personal life was also becoming more serious" I get it but it reads oddly to me.
"making 21 appearances and scoring five times" vs "eleven appearances and score three goals" inconsistent approach to MOSNUM here.
"outfit" sounds very tabloid newspaper to me.
"at OM is also " OM?
"Drogba remains a club legend in Marseille, despite playing only one season for the club." no reference, looks like OR to me.
"10 in the Premier League, five in the Champions League and one in " more MOSNUM issues.
Beginning of 2006–07 section is bereft of references.
" giving superb performances in all." no ref, looks like OR.
Second para of 2007–08 section is unreferenced.
Check image captions, if they aren't complete sentences they shouldn't have full stops.
"joining Chinese Super League side Shanghai Shenhua, also joining ...." repetitive.
" a 1 and a half-year " do you mean "one-and-a-half-year"?
You linked £ but I didn't see if you linked the Euro.
"Mohamed Salah, who wore the number during the 2013–14 season, took over the number 17 shirt vacated by Eden Hazard." no ref.
Lots of the begninning of "international career" section unreferenced.
Honours section unreferenced.
Works in references (e.g. LA Times) should be in italics.
Avoid tabloids, they're not considered RS mostly (e.g. Daily Mirror, The Sun etc)
Avoid SHOUTING in ref titles.
Fix dead links.
Be consistent with scoreline formats in refs.
BBC or BBC Sport? Be consistent.
Make sure refs are filled out correctly, e.g. refs 126 and 127 have no information.

The Rambling Man (talk) 06:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: I've addressed all the issues you've pointed out here, except for the point on the Honours section. The manual of style for players on WP:FOOTY doesn't contain references in its Honours section, and they wouldn't be necessary since often they'd already have been mentioned in the body or the respective articles of these tournaments would show that the player's teams did win these honours at the time the player was a part of these teams. I think refs would only be necessary if the honour doesn't have an article of its own or if it hasn't been mentioned in the article yet.

Aside from all that, I also included a "Style of play" section at Oldelpaso's suggestion in the initial FAC nomination, and it would be helpful if you looked at the article again and told me whether or not it's ready for another FAC nomination. Thanks, Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 18:56, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with relying on sourcing in linked articles is that you can't guarantee that what you believe is sourced is actually sourced. Even if it is sourced in the target article, it may not continue to be sourced. It'd be best if you sourced all claims in this article without relying on other articles whose quality is currently uncertain and certainly unknown in the future. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:02, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: That's a good point, although I think it's more relevant to individual honours. Looking at other articles of footballers like Cristiano Ronaldo, or Thierry Henry (a former featured article) I can see (some of) those are referenced. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 13:18, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect finding individual inline references for his honours would take about as long as trying to argue a counterposition whereby other articles do it a different way or it's ok, it'll be referenced in the target article etc. Drogba is modern enough a player to have all his sources online, the honours are all just a Google away. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Yeah I'll be working on that as soon as I can. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 16:08, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: I've referenced all his individual honours and records, except for the Chelsea Players' Player of the Year award for 2007. Couldn't find a source for that one. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 17:40, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Oldelpaso and The Rambling Man: I think all the issues with the article are sorted now. Is it ready for another FAC? Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 14:25, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]