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Kyo Kusanagi

I've listed this article for peer review because I've been wondering if it's in good shape to be remain as GA. I don't aim to make it FA due to difficulties provided by that demand but this is probably one of the first articles I ever touched when becoming a user. In regards to the content of the article, I'm concerned about several stuff:

• I tried trimming his ingame appearances as much as possible to avoid fancruft but I don't know if it's okay.
• Same with reception. I tried dividing the section in paragraphs of different areas that involve the character's traits.
• Lastly, it's about images. When editing Tekken or Street Fighter articles I've seen how editors place the latest revealed image about the character but I did instead what Final Fantasy has in some articles by using the earliest designs that might be more recognizable like Cloud's original VII image concept rather than the remake. There is also the deal of the original designer of the article having done his own take of the character but I don't know if it is needed due to the overuse of nonfree images.

Thanks. Tintor2 (talk) 01:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't know much about peer review, but I'll take a look at this. I don't have time to go over the body of the article right now (I should be able to this afternoon), but here are some points I noted with the lead:

• "Kyo appears in several other media series including" Even assuming it is a real term, "media series" sounds odd to me. I would just say "media".
• "the main characters from other franchises from SNK franchises," This should be "the main characters from other SNK franchises,".
• "His debut in The King of Fighters was noted by the staff to have received a large positive response by fans." If there's no doubt that what the staff say is true, it's better to say simply "His debut in The King of Fighters received a large positive response by fans." If there is doubt, I'd avoid the verb "noted" and go with something like "According to the game staff, his debut in The King of Fighters received a large positive response by fans."
• "His role in the story and his long rivalry with Iori Yagami was also celebrated." That should be either "were also celebrated" or "are also celebrated."
• "in the sequel The King of Fighters XIV" I'd drop "the sequel". Aside from the fact that general readers know that a title which consists of the series name and a roman numeral at the end is always a sequel, the fact that it is a sequel isn't directly relevant.
• With regard to your point about images, I don't know enough about the character to say whether or not the current image shows Kyo's most recognizable form, but I agree with the general principle that the most recognizable design should be favored over the most recent design.--Martin IIIa (talk) 14:37, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

• • Thanks IIIIa. I tried doing every edit.Tintor2 (talk) 15:53, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

It took me longer to follow up than I expected, but I've looked over the whole article. The coverage of ingame appearances seems okay to me. I think it would be better to discuss them in more general terms rather than game-by-game, but I realize the reliable sources needed to support such generalizations may not be out there. Reception looks good; so far as I can see it's all significant commentary and notable polls rather than the listcruft which often dominates character reception sections. The only part I question the notability of is the part about the KoF 97 special endings. To the general reader at least, it's not clear what this says about public reception of Kyo.

A few more line-by-line suggestions.

• "with Hiroaki expressing a desire for his work to live up to Shinkiro's," The text doesn't mention who Hiroaki is.
• "The developers of the series noted that Kyo and Iori were also popular in Korea, which led to their immediate inclusion in The King of Fighters 2001, the first game not developed by the original company." The Korean link would not be obvious to the general reader, so this should specifically mention Eolith and the fact that they were a Korean company. The game should be wikilinked, too.
• "Despite this, they accepted that any redesign of Kyo would illicit a mixed reaction and hoped older players of the series would understand he is still the same character despite any cosmetic changes." I feel like this line could be dropped.
• "Maeno noted the impact of Kyo was challenging as he was the main character from a famous series of fighting games.", "For The King of Fighters for Girls, Maeno was careful with his performance as he understands due to how beloved is his character." These two lines are saying pretty much the same thing, so one of them could be dropped.
• "He is present in Neowave and the Maximum Impact series." For the sake of general readers, it should be clarified that these are part of the King of Fighters franchise.
• "The character received both praise and criticism from several video game publications and other media." I think this line could be dropped, as even as a summary statement, it's too vague to add anything.--Martin IIIa (talk) 17:09, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I tried revising every comment per suggestion. There doesn't seem too much comment about Kyo between his 99 persona and XIV redesign.Tintor2 (talk) 17:43, 13 August 2020 (UTC)