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April 17

NHL's 1929 New York Americans

Who's the black guy in this picture? -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

His name appears to be Deckett; does that help? —Tamfang (talk) 04:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Interesting question, as the first black player in the NHL was Willie O'Ree, in the 1950s. The guy in the pic appears to be part of the front office, not a player. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Are you saying that an American hockey team had a black executive before it had a black player? Still, he isn't a player, since he doesn't appear on the roster of either the 1928–29 New York Americans season or the 1929–30 New York Americans season. Maybe a team manager or assisstant coach? Trainer? Tis a good question, and I would be interested to find out... --Jayron32 01:06, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't know if he's an executive, but he is wearing a suit and tie and posing with them as if he belongs there, so he must have been well-known at the time. However, google is not turning anything up. It's difficult to read the name. It's unfortunate that the uploadeder didn't upload a full-sized version. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm wondering if he's not a celebrity of another sort. In the 1920's, there were sports where a black man was accepted (Boxing, for one), or perhaps a singer or other entertainer. The picture is obviously not the full team picture (compare to rosters), it's not even the full roster of regular players, so this may have been a photo op with a local New York celebrity of some sort, who had no other connection to hockey... --Jayron32 12:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Could well be - a photo op for all concerned. Looks vaguely like Jack Johnson, but too small. I'm sure the answer is out there somewhere. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:01, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

The well-dressed black man is not wearing skates. With skates he would be just as tall as the other men in the picture, most of whom seem to be reasonably big guys, big enough to be heavyweight boxers. So this could be Jack Johnson. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 19:11, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

At least we know that the white guy in street clothes at the right end (also not identified) is the coach, Tommy Gorman. The user listed as having uploaded the photo is still active, so I've asked him about it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

In the lower right the photo identifies that it was taken in Portland, Oregon. The Americans toured the Pacific Coast Hockey League and played two games against the Portland Buckaroos that year. Looking at papers from the time, they took a nine-man roster which included the listed players plus Bullet Joe Simpson who is presumably the owner of the shoulder beside Gorman. The caption is also wrong, the Amerks weren't the runners up in the NHL in '28-'29 -- they finished second to Montreal in the Canadian Division, fourth overall and lost to the Rangers in the first round of the playoffs. --JGGardiner (talk) 18:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Just for the sake of completeness, I did some searches at www.hockeydb.com, which contains nearly complete rosters for just about any pro league for the past century. There is no contemporary player named "Duckett" "Deckett" "Buckett" or "Beckett" which is the best I can make out the name for. There is also no similarly named player to have appeared on the Buckaroos roster, see [1]. So he isn't from that team. Maybe he was some other employee of the team; a porter or some other assistant perhaps? --Jayron32 05:07, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

I note that the archive search page for this picture -- here -- simply omits the name of the black gentleman but lists all the others. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 18:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

name of the movie

I watched this movie quite long time ago (in the late 1990s or most probably early 2000s). Plot revolves around the relationship between a wife and husband. The wife's boss asked her (most probably inside an airplane as far I remember) to sleep with him, which she accepted. Later the wife admitted to her husband that she slept with her boss. After she told him that she was approached by her boss, the husband tells: "What did you say?" and repeating the question again and again, and the wife replies that she accepted the offer. The husband then expresses sorrow.

In a later scene, the husband accidentally hit the wife and laments, and the wife says I love you. --Voulgdoerle (talk) 04:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

You wouldn't be mis-remembering Indecent Proposal, would you? Dismas|^(talk) 05:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

No, it is not Indecent Proposal, I'm sure. The movie I saw had a scene where the husband accidentally hit the wife and then laments and the wife says I love you. I clearly remember this scene. --Voulgdoerle (talk) 11:16, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Exes and Ohs

Does anyone know where I can stream season 2 of Exes and Ohs online? It's a LGBT Canadian showhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exes_and_ohs: Thank you! Neptunekh2 (talk) 06:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

SUB TITLE SEARCH

Looking for subtitles for Teen Mom 2 Episodes 101-109, a series on MTV. I have searched for 5 days to no avail. Please help me with a link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.212.12.10 (talk) 10:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Yet another film title request - PLEASE.

Sorry guys - I know I keep doing this to you . . .

The USA has a problem with an Irish terrorist and they release another well known terrorist (star of the film) from jail to help them. Within the first few hours of his realease, he has a guy (a hairdresser?) backwards over the roof railings and is using him to negotiate better terms.

I thought this was Donald Sutherland - then maybe Sean Connery; but I can't find the film in either of their filmographies.

Can you help please?

Gurumaister (talk) 11:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Possibly The Jackal (1997 film)? If not then a browse through the films listed in Category:Films about the Irish Republican Army and List of films featuring the Irish Republican Army might give you the answer you're looking for. --Viennese Waltz 11:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Viennese - it definitely is not The Jackal - but it may be worth my looking through films on the IRA. If anyone else recognises the film - I will be grateful for a hint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gurumaister (talk • contribs) 11:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I remember the hairdresser over a railing bit quite clearly from The Rock (film), which stars Sean Connery (and Nicholas Cage). It's possible you're combining fractured memories of two or more movies together though. The Masked Booby (talk) 07:04, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

except it an FBI director over the railings whilst the protagonist was getting a hair cut.... but yeah, great film.Worm^TT · (talk) 11:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

That's it Guys - you've got it!! Thanks so much; I am very grateful. Gurumaister (talk) 14:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Without a Trace Season 3 Episode 4

In Episode 4, did the mother get arrested? In Episode 4, should the mother get punished? (JulieBenson123 (talk) 19:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC)).

Don Henley's "Boys Of Summer"

The Wikipedia article on Boys of Summer makes no mention of Dylan Thomas' famous poem by the same name ("Boys of Summer) and carries some of the same themes as Don Henley's poem. Is there any information to suggest that Dylan Thomas' poem had any influence on Henley's lyrics? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.41.249.239 (talk) 21:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

He may have taken the title from the 1972 book by Roger Kahn, which does take its title from the Dylan Thomas poem which is quoted in the book's opening paragraphs. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:56, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Also referenced in Ray Bradbury's Dandelion Wine (1957): "They passed like cloud shadows downhill... the boys of summer, running." Pepso2 (talk) 12:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)