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July 21

To have a football team

What does it mean to have a football team in the 1970s? Or today as well? I've read a few places that Pink Floyd had a football team in the 1970s but I've never really understood what that meant in the English way of things. Not too surprising since I'm American. Anyway, if you need a quote to get context, from the new Newsweek special edition magazine "Pink Floyd were avid sports fans, with the group even having their own soccer[sic] team during the 70s". Do the people that "have" the team usually play on the team? Or is it more of a managerial sort of thing? Do they put up the money for it? Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 01:05, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

To "own" a sports team means the same thing as own any other business. It means they either own stock or shares in a sports team business or they are the sole owners of said team. I think you're confusing two facts about Pink Floyd. First, is the lyrics to the song "Money", a song about conspicuous consumption, where the narrator describes all of the things he wants to do with his wealth, among them is "Think I'll buy me a football team". Pink Floyd didn't actually buy a football team, it's just a line from a song. Pink Floyd members did play on an amateur Sunday league football team in the late 1960s, consisting of themselves and their road crew and their girlfriends. They played games on the weekends in this was more of a "hobby" or "club" or "rec" team (as they might be known in the U.S.), but they didn't own said team, as it wasn't a business really. See This photograph of the team (notice the Pink Floyd Football Club "PFFC" shirts) and This nicer color photograph. Here is a description of the team from Nick Mason's autobiography; they have the same black-and-white photo I linked to above; apparently the picture was taken prior to a game against members from the band Family. So they had a "team" in the sense that they organized an amateur club team that they played against pub teams, other bands, and other amateurs once in a while. --Jayron32 02:58, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm rather familiar with the lyrics and didn't think it was like they owned a team that would one day get in the World Cup but at the same time I didn't know how amateur it was. I've seen all those photos before in my other readings about the band and even have the book you referenced, though I haven't read it yet. (My "to read" shelf is ever expanding) So, it's like having a rec team. I got it now. Thanks again! Dismas|^(talk) 03:11, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

In the UK, all sorts of bodies "have football teams" such as pubs, churches, offices and factories. Everton FC started life as the St Domingo Methodist Church Sunday School and West Ham United FC began in the Thames Ironworks. I've never heard of a rock band having a football team, but it's not a surprise. Alansplodge (talk) 21:13, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

For those of us of a certain age Dismas Elton John's time as the owner of Watford F.C. (see Watford F.C.#Elton John Era) sticks in the memory. MarnetteD|Talk 21:41, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

STANLEY KIRKBY OLD 10 INCH 78 RECORD

HI, I HAVE THE ABOVE RECORD THE DEAR IRISH MOTHER OF MINE/ROSE DREAMS ON THE WINNER LABEL/EDISON BELL WITH THE NUMBER 3656 ON BOTH SIDES. THE RECORDING OF ROSE DREAMS ALSO INCLUDES A CHORUS. HOWEVER YOUR RESULTS DO NOT INCLUDE OR RECOGNISE THIS RECORDING. CAN YOU HELP PLEASE. THANKS, REG HALL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.92.18 (talk) 08:00, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello Reg. First of all, when you type, please use small letters rather than capitals as it is much easier to read. Now, to your question. We have an article on Stanley Kirkby which, as you say, doesn't include details of your old 78. But the article doesn't contain a full discography of Stanley's records anyway, so you wouldn't necessarily expect it to recognise the recording. What I find more interesting is that I've had a look on the internet and can find no reference to this 78 anywhere. This page, a supposedly comprehensive discography of the Winner/Edison Bell label, does not list it. It's possible therefore that you have a rare, previously unknown Stanley Kirkby recording. I would hold onto it if I were you, and possibly get it valued by an expert in old 78s. Good luck, --Viennese Waltz 09:01, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Bandy clubs in Ulyanovsk

What's the connection between Volga-SDYuSShOR and Volga Ulyanovsk? They seem to share the same logo, but one play in the second tier Russian Bandy Supreme League and the other in the top-tier Russian Bandy Super League. According to the article about the hometown of these clubs, Ulyanovsk, there is also a bandy club called Simbirsk in the town which should be playing in the Supreme League, but we don't have any article on that club and it is not mentioned in the article about the Supreme League. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 15:27, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

SDYuSShOR part is "Specialized Child-Junior Sporting School of the Olympic Reserve" (СДЮСШОР, специализированная детско-юношеская спортивная школа олимпийского резерва), which, considering the name, is supposed to train young sportsmen. So "Volga-SDYuSShOR HK" is the team of this school which is also under the patronage of "Volga Ulyanovsk". "Simbirsk" looks like a very little known team, I could find only this.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 04:11, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Fashion

I own expensive sunglasses but the designer label page does not specify how I can ascertain my purchase is not a fake. How can i ensure its real? 84.13.153.27 (talk) 20:08, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Googling the subject, here is one idea. In general, you could go to a store that sells the same model that yours are supposed to be, and see if they appear to be the same. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:21, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Perception is reality. If nobody can tell they're fake, a $50 pair works as well as the $5,000 version, heatwise. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:15, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I think the OP is raising the opposite problem - that he spent $5,000 and it might be worth only $50. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what it sounds like. I was trying to reassure him/her that people will probably still think (s)he spent a lot (I may have overestimated the prices). As long as they still do the things in the links, they're real. If they suddenly melt one hot day, that's a more serious fakeness problem. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

A fool and his money are soon parted. Fashion and wannabe's are the ideal vehicle for this.--Aspro (talk) 21:56, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

If you take Bugs' advice on in-store comparison, you might want to pick up a pair of these bad boys for a hands-free closer look. Sometimes the imperfections in good knockoffs (if any) are too slight for the naked eye.

Of course, wearing these in public is a glaringly obvious fashion crime, but if anyone laughs at you, you can just tell them you're an esteemed scientist. And then stare deep into their eyes till they're sold on the idea. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Relations?

Are David Feige and Kevin Feige related?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:13, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

If they were, they'd be cousins at the closest: according to the Wikipedia articles, they were not raised anywhere near each other. --Jayron32 01:52, 22 July 2015 (UTC)