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Why isn't the oldest football ground the home of the oldest football club?

Sheffield FC (Sheffield F.C.) is the oldest football club, while Sandygate Road (Sandygate Road) is the oldest football ground and is the home of Hallam FC (Hallam F.C.), which is the 2nd oldest football club.

But shouldn't the oldest football ground also belong to the oldest football club? What exactly are the reasons why this isn't so?

138.75.174.143 (talk) 16:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Erm because clubs can change at which ground them play? Or am I missing something here? Sheffield FC has moved grounds a few times, and I would think their original ground doesn't exist any more, or it would likely be the oldest. 131.251.254.81 (talk) 17:18, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

That's how I would read it. It works the same in any sport. For example, the oldest team in the NFL (American football) is the Arizona Cardinals, which predates the League itself by some decades. It's original home stadium doesn't exist anymore and is about 1500 miles from where they play now. In baseball, the Cincinnati Reds is the oldest Major League team, but it's home field was only built in 2003. There's no reason why the oldest club in any sport need play in the oldest currently used stadium in that sport. Clubs move all the time. It's actually quite impressive that the second oldest club in the UK still plays in its original grounds. I would not have guessed that. --Jayron32 20:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

The oldest continuous major league teams are the Chicago Cubs and the Atlanta Braves, who were both charter members of the National League in 1876. As with the NFL Cardinals, the Braves moved cities twice (from Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta). The Cubs have stayed in one city, and this will be their 100th season at Wrigley Field, but they had already been in the league (across at least four other locations) for 40 seasons before they acquired the Federal League ballpark which dates to 1914. Sports venues eventually become obsolete, for any number of reasons, and they can be rebuilt in-place, as with the Georgia Tech stadium, or the team may choose a new location. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Looking at our article on Sheffield F.C., it seems that they originally met in a greenhouse and played on an adjacent field. I don't think it would have taken them long to look for somewhere better. If childhood memory serves, football and greenhouses don't go well together! Alansplodge (talk) 20:56, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Crystal Palace may say otherwise, though the club survived the greenhouse. Hack (talk) 01:19, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Good point, although I'd buy a ticket to see them kicking a ball the best part of two miles from Selhurst Park to Crystal Palace :-) Alansplodge (talk) 11:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia have an article on "List of films that have won multiple acting Academy Awards"?

The film Dallas Buyers Club won Academy Awards for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor. Do we have any Wikipedia articles along the lines of listing films like that? Something like "List of films that have won multiple acting Academy Awards"? I didn't find anything. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:28, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

We have List of Big Five Academy Award winners and nominees and List of Academy Award-winning films though they may not be exactly what you are looking for. MarnetteD|Talk 23:52, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

If it's only for yourself and specific combinations then you can try Wikipedia:CatScan or Wikipedia:Category intersection#Using MediaWiki search to find category intersections on subcategories of Category:Academy Award winners. Note that the first-level subcategories are usually for people with further subcategories for the films. incategory:"Films featuring a Best Actor Academy Award winning performance‎" incategory:"Films featuring a Best Supporting Actor Academy Award winning performance" finds five films. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:41, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I did find this article: List of films with all four Academy Award acting nominations. But that does not directly get at what I am looking for. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:08, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:42, 9 March 2015 (UTC)