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January 7

bling on a superheroine

I'm confused about the types of earrings Wonder Woman wore. In the 1970s TV series, Lynda Carter wore red dot earrings while playing the title character. But in some comic book issues, Wonder Woman wore white star earrings, and she wore red star earrings. Is Gal Gadot wearing any earrings while she was playing Wonder Woman? Which pair of earrings are the right ones?2603:7000:8100:BD38:C5AB:6ECA:A37C:D5DA (talk) 11:44, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

There is no such thing as "the right ones". The comic artists/animators/costume designers who decide what Wonder Woman is wearing in any of the media where she has been portrayed are not following any set of rules that requires them to use a certain set of earrings. Regarding Gal Gadot's earrings, she has portrayed Wonder Woman in three films to date, Wonder Woman (2017 film), Justice League (film), and Wonder Woman 1984. You're quite allowed to view those films on your own and make notes on her earrings she wore. You're unlikely to find anyone who has done so already, so I don't believe we can direct you to any further reading where you could find out. --Jayron32 12:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman was first in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (significant role, not just cameo like Aquaman, Cyborg and Flash). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:00, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

You're confused by the fact that Wonder Woman has more than one set of earrings.

Oh....Kay. Britmax (talk) 13:09, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

While agreeing with the other respondents that "right" isn't a valid term here, the first appearance of Wonder Woman (All-Star Comics #8) has her wearing red dot earrings. Of course, if you go by the idea that her first appearance look is "right" and anything that deviates from it is "wrong" she should be wearing a skirt (not shorts or pants) and her chest symbol should be an eagle (not a double W). The looks of superheroes have varied over the years, sometimes in small ways, sometimes in large ways. All of these looks are "right" because they were officially produced by DC comics.--Khajidha (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Another example is the evolution of the "S" on Superman's chest. As for Wonder Woman, I wonder how many women the OP knows that have only one set of earrings. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:40, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Not just the S itself, the shield around it has changed as well. Also Batman's chest symbol: plain bat vs yellow oval. While there is an understandable desire on DC's part to keep these characters tecognizable, many details will vary in many ways. --Khajidha (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the shield was sort of triangular until the late 1940s or so when it took on its 5-sided shape (kind of like a diamond profile). There's also the obvious trivia about why they wear capes. It's for added dramatic effect, and is basically a circus outfit. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:06, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Not to mention the S variants that looked like actual shields or highway number number signs. --Khajidha (talk) 20:29, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

See the 1st, 4th, and 7th ones here: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/406168460125518504/ --Khajidha (talk) 20:34, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

When I try to see it, some sort of ad window blocks it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:54, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Take a look here: http://www.metropolisplus.com/superman/ --Khajidha (talk) 11:29, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Excellent! Thank you! ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Here is a nice display of the Batman logos through the years. Here is one for the Superman "S's". I couldn't find one specific to the comics for Wonder Woman's earrings but there is this Google search page. MarnetteD|Talk 17:29, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Here's one for WW's chest emblem (and title logos). https://www.pinterest.com/pin/14496030026633688/ --Khajidha (talk) 20:34, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I am confused about James Bond's ties. In Dr. No he wears a long tie:[1] but in Spectre he is seen wearing a bow tie:[2]. Which one is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luvstalk (talk • contribs) 09:47, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

I am going to repeat myself again. There is no "right" tie. As a creation of fiction, the tie he wears at any given point is only dependent on the creative person or persons who decided to give him the tie in question. Furthermore, real people often own more than one of any article of clothing. I own probably 2 dozen ties. They're all "right" in the sense that I own them and decide when to wear them when I want. --Jayron32 13:16, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

James Bond was supposed to be the epitome of an British gentleman. There's quite a strict dress code that goes with that; bow ties are worn with a dinner suit or "black tie" which is only worn in the evening; appropriate for a concert or a visit to the casino, but you'd look a bit silly wearing that during the day. Alansplodge (talk) 15:23, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

So you can blame Cubby Broccoli for this apparent gaffe. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:50, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Actually, he would have had nothing to do with costuming decisions. He was a film producer; producers don't make day-to-day decisions on creative aspects of a film. A film director would have ultimate creative control, while things like a particular choice of tie would be up to a costume designer. That even ignores the fact that he was long dead when the second movie cited was made. --Jayron32 17:03, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Dead? I'll bet he's just using that as an excuse! :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:36, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Well, then it would depend on the particular protocols for the social situation he was in. They could both be right under the standards you cite. (after EC reply to Bugs). It isn't necessarily a gaffe if Bond were in different social situations in each tie. --Jayron32 16:51, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

I think they were making fun of the OQ.  --Lambiam 22:44, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

The Original Q? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:45, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Questioner or Querent, mayhap? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.40.9 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:45, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

What does Superman, Batman and James Bond have to do with the bling worn by Wonder Woman?2603:7000:8100:BD38:29CE:EC29:CB6D:3959 (talk) 02:29, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Because of the general topic of what superheroes wear. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm referring to the earrings worn by Wonder Woman, not the clothes worn by a fictional MI6 agent or any other costumes and/or jewelry worn by other comic book characters.2603:7000:8100:BD38:29CE:EC29:CB6D:3959 (talk) 04:23, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Has that question not been answered? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:46, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Maybe, but my question turned into a debacle, (or shall I say debate), about costumes and/or fashions worn by other fictional characters. This reference desk is not a place for debate for all of that.2603:7000:8100:BD38:29CE:EC29:CB6D:3959 (talk) 12:46, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

You don't get to own the section. And what part of "there is no 'right' one" did you not understand? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:20, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm not "owning" the section. Everybody is confusing me.2603:7000:8100:BD38:B120:3A75:6762:9BF3 (talk) 22:39, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Just focus on the initial response, by Jayron, and ignore everything else. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

John O'Shea

Hi. I am a user from the German Wikipedia and currently, I am writing an article about the Irish darts player John O'Shea (NOT John Joe O'Shea) in our language version. He is not very famous on the world stage and I was not able to find much biographic information about him. Therefore, I am turning to you now, hoping that you (especially those users from Ireland and the UK) might know a little about him. The most important question: What is his regular job? I presume that he is not a full-time player. So what is his occupation? Did he complete any studies or what was his apprenticeship? Best regards --Florean Fortescue (talk) 23:03, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Looks like the correct article is John O'Shea (darts player) RudolfRed (talk) 00:11, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh, right. Sorry. --Florean Fortescue (talk) 00:40, 8 January 2021 (UTC)