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editTie-break methods in soccer
editI just wondered because this method isn't mentioned anywhere on our vast Wikipedia... a common criticism of penalty shootouts is that teams will play defensively, hoping for a win at penalties.
Has this method even found a serious treatment? (Yes, I'm looking for references to extend some articles.)
Let there be two teams, Acorn and Beetroot.
Acorn scores 1:0 in the 21st minute. Beetroot equalizes to 1:1 in the 40th minute, and scores another goal in the 47th minute. Acorn equalizes to 2:2 in the 50th minute.
After the regular playing time of 90 minutes, Acorn led the score for 19 minutes, and Beetroot for 3.
Acorn would be given the victory because it led for a longer time.
This method would have a very obvious advantage: It rewards scoring goals, and it rewards scoring goals early. Paragem (talk) 10:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- No, sorry but that's a terrible idea. The last-minute equaliser or winner to save or win the match is one of the most exciting moments in football. Just ask Jude Bellingham. --Viennese Waltz 11:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- One obvious way to exploit this would be for one team to score early and then play simply to keep possession of the ball rather than score any more goals; it can be very difficult for the opposition to win the ball if no risks are being taken with it – see Running out the clock#Association football. This would be very boring for all concerned, and is very unpopular with spectators when employed as a tactic. In the past, the Laws of the Game have been amended several times to try to minimise time-wasting during play.
- Hoping for a win in a penalty shootout (rather than by playing better over 90 or 120 minutes) is a very unreliable tactic, as even the best players can miss penalties. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.226.178 (talk) 15:15, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, Cristiano Ronaldo, "the top goalscorer of all time", failed to score in a penalty shootout the other night, resulting in Portugal's elimintation from the Euro 2024. Alansplodge (talk) 18:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not quite, he failed to score on a penalty in regular time in the previous round against Slovenia, but Portugal still won on penalties. They then lost to France on penalties in the quarter finals, but Ronaldo was successful on his shot in that shootout - two of his teammates missed to give France the win. Xuxl (talk) 19:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah yes, thanks. Alansplodge (talk)
- Not quite, he failed to score on a penalty in regular time in the previous round against Slovenia, but Portugal still won on penalties. They then lost to France on penalties in the quarter finals, but Ronaldo was successful on his shot in that shootout - two of his teammates missed to give France the win. Xuxl (talk) 19:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, Cristiano Ronaldo, "the top goalscorer of all time", failed to score in a penalty shootout the other night, resulting in Portugal's elimintation from the Euro 2024. Alansplodge (talk) 18:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Will there be any future plans to have both animes release in english dub? 172.13.193.84 (talk) 15:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- See the responses to your previous query above. If currently there are plans for such future releases, it might be possible to find published references to them (and maybe a reader of this might want to go and look for them), but nobody can know now if someone in the future is going to make plans, which is what you've asked. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.
- Since both of these are Japanese properties, you might have more success asking at the Japanese-language Wikipedia, where everyone will be able to read Japanese sources – not many people who respond here at the English-language Wikipedia can do so. {The poster formerly known as 87/81.230.195} 151.227.226.178 (talk) 06:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)