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May 31

Signature page of Paris Agreement

Where can I find a scan of the signature pages of the Paris Agreement, ideally the page with John Kerry's signature[1] on it.

I'm arguing with a fucktard on the internet who says that the agreement doesn't apply to the US because they haven't signed it yet. Scala Cats (talk) 15:10, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Not exactly what you're looking for, but here's the agreement itself (pdf), which makes it clear that it was signed by all the parties to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, of which the US is one [2]. --Viennese Waltz 15:18, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

However, after being signed, an agreement needs to be ratified by the signatory state according to its own constitutional arrangements for it to apply to that state - the US did this via "acceptance" on 3 Sep 2016, according to the records. This paper steps through the different mechanisms available for ratifying this treaty in the US. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 15:55, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Out of the four options, which one was eventually taken? I think it's the "Presidential-Executive Agreements" but am not sure.

Also, since the treaty was ratified by POTUS, there should also be some sort of ratification document with President Obama's signature on it right? Where can I find a scan of it?

It'd be really cool to have some of these historic documents printed and framed. Scala Cats (talk) 17:05, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Here's the order Barack Obama signed. Not a great image for printing, but enough to win an argument online, maybe. [3] Dragons flight (talk) 17:43, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

• Here's a direct link to the photo. --69.159.63.238 (talk) 23:24, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Very cool, thanks.

Would the Freedom of Information Act cover things like this? Is it possible to get a copy by filing a FOIA request? Scala Cats (talk) 17:57, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Jonathan Swift once said "Reasoning will never make a man correct an ill opinion, which by reasoning he never acquired..." People willing to ignore reality to maintain their political opinions will remain miserably ignorant and resist all attempts to be educated. They aren't worth your time, and are best to be minimized to lead miserable, uninformed, and isolated lives. --Jayron32 23:12, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

ObXkcd. 173.228.123.121 (talk) 04:54, 2 June 2017 (UTC)