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February 25

Suggest me 10 WP discussions

Greetings,

Suggest me 10 WP (talk page) discussions (preferably from last 1 or 2 years) where you found probably women representation is/ was missing or inadequate.

I know from most user Ids one can not easily make about gender, including mine still many discussions I keep getting this feeling in many articles and their talk page discussions even while topic being discussed does not have adequate women centric view or representation. If I am not the only user to feel so then I will get some examples here.

I am aware some women related projects are there and I can ask there but before going there I wish to have some examples if some can suggest from this discussion board. (Of course some of the examples I might quote @ women related discussion boards)

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 07:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

It's an interesting question, but you've posted it in the wrong place. This page is for answering general knowledge questions, you should have gone to the help desk or village pump. --Viennese Waltz 10:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

This should filter the most edited non mainspace pages in the last two years. You may need some additional fine tuning and manually picking out actual talk pages. Finding a disussion where women were underrepresented is naturally easier than proving that it was so. 37.176.77.250 (talk) 20:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

This is a good idea, thanks.

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 02:59, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Fœdera

Greetings, keepers of the eternal flame!

Abstract: I'm hoping to find an online scan of Vol. I (and hopefully others) of the 1st edition (pub. 1704) of Thomas Rymer's Fœdera (or Foedera without the œ), very specifically that from the Library of the State University of Ohio. There are many other copies of this work available online, but I am looking for this particular instance (it may not exist). At least Vol XX is online, [1], scanned in February 2016, but I can't locate any other volumes from this particular library. It may be a one-off, although this seems vaguely unlikely. Any ideas, please?

Long version, apologies: if TLDR, skip to final para. For some time I have been gathering notes for a new WP article on Rymer's Fœdera. A brief summary can be found in EB1911.[2]. The best guide to the whole enteprise is Sir T. D. Hardy’s Syllabus (1869–85, 3 vols., Vol. 1 Vol. 2 Vol. 3). My search has involved—inter alia—locating online (preferably downloadable) copies of all four editions: I have urls for almost all of them (various sources including Archive.org, G**gle books, Gallica, Austrian National Library, and the abysmal HathiTrust) except 2nd ed, Vol 3. Anyway, I recently came across a brief yet informative article written in 2000 by James K. Bracken.[3] (NB not James Bracken or J. K. Bracken, the father of Brendan Bracken).

• Bracken, James K. (2000). "Evidence of George Holmes's Corrections to the First Edition of the Foedera (1704-17)" (PDF). Analytical & Enumerative Bibliography. 1. DeKalb, Ill.: The Bibliographical Society of Northern Illinois: 114–123. ISSN 0161-0376.

Bracken's article discusses the personal copy of the 1st edition of George Holmes (editor of the 2nd edition), which somehow ended up in the Library of the State University of Ohio, where Bracken worked at the time. Randomly, a couple of days ago I chanced upon Vol XX (as mentioned above) at G**gle books, through this Worldcat entry [4]. This particular volume (1735) is one of three (XVIII, XIX & XX) by Robert Sanderson (Rymer's assistant for the 1st edition) published 1726–1735 by Jacob Tonson, publisher of the 2nd edition; they are not technically part of either the 1st or 2nd editions, although they are often included and bound up with complete sets of either: they are also included in the 3rd (Hague) edition.

This copy of Vol. XX has the stamp of State Uni. of Iowa Library on the title page, but despite an intensive search I have been unable to locate any other volumes from this library. For example, the Bibliographic information section of GB states "Volume 20 of Fœdera, conventiones, literæ" etc., but searching for "Volume 1 of Fœdera, conventiones, literæ" draws a blank. Other useful specific search terms might include "Tomus I"|"T O M U S I" "Per J. Churchill" "MMCCIV" and so on.

Jacob Tonson also published in 1730 a list of Holmes's 7,000 corrections to the 1st ed. that were printed in the 2nd edition, as The Emendations in the New Edition of Mr. Rymer's Foedera Published for the Use of those Gentlemen who are possess 'd of the Former Edition but, as Bracken says, these don't necessarily match up with Holmes's own corrections in his personal copy of the 1st edition. I have been unable to find an online copy of these Emendations either, although there is a copy in the Library of Ohio State Uni. which Bracken mentions.

I would be most grateful if anyone could assist me in locating Vol. I from the Library of the State University of Ohio, or any others up to at least Vol XII where Holmes' editorship of the 2nd edition stopped (Bracken doesn't appear to say if Holmes's marginalia continue throughout the whole set of his own copy); plus any online copy of the 2nd ed, Vol III; and as an added bonus, any copy of the Emendations. I could always try a trans-Atlantic email or two, but I thought I'd start here. Sorry for the lengthy post. Cheers, MinorProphet (talk) 18:26, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

This the correct edition for Vol. 1 at HathiTrust? Oops, probably not, sorry didn't fully read your post before answering. fiveby(zero) 20:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Apologies if i am still misreading your request, but if it has a University of Iowa stamp you'd like to see it? v. 4v. 16, v. 19, v. 20 but most want volume 1? Are you able to access Gale Eighteenth Century Collections Online where the UI Library database search keeps sending me? fiveby(zero) 21:33, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

A physical copy with call number "JX636 1704" doesn't show up in the Ohio catalogue search, tho "JX636 1816" another edition from their special collections does. You might try passing along this record to WP:RX and maybe someone can check for the note on the flyleaf. fiveby(zero) 22:28, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Wrong catalogue again, JX636 1704 with "Ad originales chartas in Turri Londinensi denuo summa fide collata & emendata, studio Georgil Holmes" on the title page for v1-12? fiveby(zero) 22:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, my reading comprehension is worse than usual today, what makes you think [5] with the Iowa stamp is a scan of "JX636 1704"? it has a sticker for Hugh Lowther, 5th Earl of Lonsdale. Are we looking for digitizations of what Ohio State holds, or of from that printing? fiveby(zero) 23:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Here are v.13, v. 15v. 16v. 19 from Ohio State with the "JX636 1704" call number in pencil following the title page. fiveby(zero) 15:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Here is second edition, v. 3 which i think is finally something you requested! fiveby(zero) 18:06, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Here's Emendations. fiveby(zero) 18:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)