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Arabs in Israel: recent map?

Arabs in Israel, by natural region, 2018

Do we have a map (or data) showing the % of Arab by locality in Israel (including Unrecognized Bedouin villages in Israel)? File:Arab population israel 2000 en.png is from 2000 and not granular. File:Map of Arabic speaking localities in Israel.png seems more recent but doesn't show unrecognized villages and it's unclear how they defined "Arabic speaking localities" (poke @Bolter21). I assume plain = 50%+ Arabs, and the description says stripped = 2%+, that's a large gap! I don't speak Hebrew and Google Translate doesn't seem to work with this website but I assume there may be up-to-date date on govmap.gov.il. The 2022 census is ongoing. The latest one is from 2008. (asking the question for Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop#Map_of_Arabic_vernaculars.) A455bcd9 (talk) 09:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Found this by Arnon Soffer. Not sure it's a high quality source though. A455bcd9 (talk) 11:38, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Found the latest official map from 2018 thanks to @Bolter21: 3.14. I wonder whether we can upload that map to Commons. A455bcd9 (talk) 15:11, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I can't connect to the site, but if the map was created by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, the copyright rests with the State of Israel unless the State waived its copyright, or the work is at least 50 years old, in which case the copyright has expired.  --Lambiam 17:55, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Lambiam. There seems to be an exception for Israel Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS): https://www.cbs.gov.il/en/Pages/Enduser-license.aspx

• "This license grants you a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual and non-exclusive license to the Information subject to the conditions below."
• "You may copy the Information, distribute it, make it available to the public, broadcast it and use it to create derivative works and adaptations - in any medium or format."
• "You may make commercial and non-commercial use of the Information."

I'll ask in the map workshop to create an SVG version of this map. A455bcd9 (talk) 18:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I am afraid the CBS licence does not make their material free content. It does not allow one to reuse the work for any purpose – there is a restriction that the information be not presented in a misleading manner. Our Commons licences have no such restrictions and would allow one to reuse the material hosted there with the aim of making the public believe the State of Israel is run by shape-shifting lizards.  --Lambiam 19:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid you're right... A455bcd9 (talk) 19:07, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Actually no @Lambiam, this is a "non-copyright restrictions": "Commons considers non-copyright restrictions to be matters for photographers/uploaders or reusers and are not grounds for deletion of works from Commons" A455bcd9 (talk) 19:08, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I disagree. These are the specific terms and conditions under which the State of Israel is willing to license its copyright to end users, and they impose clear restrictions on derivative works. In fact, under Scope of this license, it is explicitly stated that This license does not apply to ... rights other than copyright, including patents, trademarks and designs. The guidance at c:Template:IsraelCBS appears self-contradictory; if certain uses of the information are prohibited then it cannot possibly be usable for any purpose, and it is not free under the definition used in c:COM:L. Shells-shells (talk) 21:29, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

What are natural regions of Israel?

Districts, Sub-Districts and Natural Regions of the State of Israel, 2018

In my question above, this map shows the "Natural Region[s]" of Israel. Districts of Israel says nothing about natural regions: how many are there? what is the list of natural regions? A455bcd9 (talk) 15:40, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

The are shown Here in this map on Commons, but the only article that uses that map appears to be This article at Catalan Wikipedia. --Jayron32 17:24, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

According to the Catalan Wikipedia, the districts are subdivided into fifteen subdistricts, which are subdivided into 50 natural regions, being non-administrative units used by the government for census and statistical purposes.  --Lambiam 17:41, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Here appears to be an official map, issued by the Isreali Government. It's from a .gov.il address and it is written in Hebrew. There is, however no key naming the regions. --Jayron32 17:52, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I think all these maps are outdated as in the 2018 edition the 431 natural region from this map has been divided into two new natural regions. A455bcd9 (talk) 17:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Here's the list and the map. To add to Districts of Israel? A455bcd9 (talk) 17:58, 1 November 2022 (UTC)