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April 4

Could Japanese war crimes justify the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

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Could Japanese war crimes, such as the Nanking Massacre, the Bataan Death March, the Sook Ching, the Manila massacre, the Parit Sulong Massacre, the Shinyo Maru incident, the Kaimingjie germ weapon attack, Unit 731's human experimentation etc. justify the Atomic Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? 95.144.204.68 (talk) 14:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

The A-bombs were dropped in an effort to end the war, and it worked. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:31, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Even though the A-bombs were necessary in ending the war, could the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the Empire of Japan really justify the deaths of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 95.144.204.68 (talk) 16:23, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Under what ethical system or moral code? If you believe in collective punishment, sure. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 16:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

I think the OP is missing the point… the decision to drop the bombs had nothing to do with punishing Japanese war crimes. The question is asking us to connect two things that are not connected. Blueboar (talk) 17:12, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Blueboar, I know that the A-bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had nothing to do with punishment for Japanese war crimes but people mostly use the Attack on Pearl Harbour to justify the A-bombings instead of Japanese war crimes. After reading about the horrors of Unit 731 and the Nanking Massacre, some people may argue that Japan deserved worse. 95.144.204.68 (talk) 17:28, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

The actual justification was that if the US hadn’t used them, they would have had to invade the main islands of Japan… and based upon the experience of the Battle of Okinawa it was thought that doing this would have taken years and resulted in HUGE amounts of death and destruction. The decision to drop the bomb was (and is) actually justified as a way of saving both American and Japanese lives. Blueboar (talk) 17:41, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

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Osaka Castle

There is the story about gold steal from this castle by Kajisuke (梶助) in 1740. Please, can you find more information using these Japanese sites: 1, 2, 3. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.103.158 (talk) 18:12, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

If you enter a URL into https://translate.google.com you can translate a webpage from one language to another. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 13:56, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Maybe, someone of you can translate it and edit those information in that wiki page? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.239.132.101 (talk) 16:12, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Ah I see. The Reference Desk is not the right place for a request like that. As explained on the help page, there are two things you can do if you want information added to a wikipedia article.

• If you spot a problem with an article, you can fix it directly, by clicking on the "Edit" link at the top of that page. See "edit an article" for more information.
• If you don't feel ready to fix the article yourself, post a message on the article's talk page. This will bring the matter to the attention of others who work on that article. There is a "Talk" link at the beginning of every article page.

The Reference Desk is only here to help you find sources if you want to edit the article yourself. But you already have your source. So you need to follow step two and post your request on the talk page of Osaka Castle instead of here. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

This tells us that the chap in question's name was Kajisuke Nakama (中間梶助), and that he made off with 4,000 ryō, if that's any help. --Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 05:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)