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Name for new company

Dear Partners,

can you please suggest me some unique manes for my new training institute in India. this is software training institute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.83.22.1 (talk) 04:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The Sam Houston Institute of Technology. Farmer's University of Central Kansas. --Jayron32 04:18, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

What type of training will it do ? Where in India is it located ? Is there anybody you want to name it after ? (Gandhi is always good, if you're in a Hindu area.) StuRat (talk) 04:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The Robert Clive Centre for Software Excellence. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:31, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

"Effect Training". I arrived at this by generating ten random nouns, and ignoring the concrete ones ("Sock Training"), the negative ones ("Shame Training"), and the ones with overtones of operant conditioning ("Reward Training"). There is apparently a "Visual Effect Training" institute, VFX, in Pune, teaching game programming: other than that, the name "Effect Training" appears reasonably unique, and it is suitably vague, and inspirational. It can also be read in the imperative mood, interpreting "Effect" as a verb.  Card Zero  (talk) 09:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm very disappointed in you all for not answering the question. The finest manes were of course those of late-eighties German footballers. Henry^Flower 14:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Though not unique. I recommend reverse mohawks with pigtails on one side, and dreads on the other, held together with pink ribbons and 3-inch clothespins. I get a royalty for this right?-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 06:09, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

To OP, this isn't the place to ask that. Company names depend on a lot of factors and is very important to the success of whatever business you're in. It's not something you get by asking random people on the internet.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 06:09, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Using your surname in the title of your company is very popular across all types of business. Fashion brands are almost all named for their designed (Calvin Klein, Paul Smith, Armani etc.). In engineering a lot of car brands are based on people's names (e.g. Ford, Ferrari), design consultancies, legal firms, training businesses - it's really very common across all industries. Similarly common is using the home-town/founding location as part of your business title. ny156uk (talk) 09:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

In the US, some private schools use a name of a town (Stanford, Boston) for example to lend prestige, and vaguely imply a nonexistent affiliation with some prestigious college. There is also Columbia College in Chicago, unaffiliated with Columbia University in New York. Another route is to use the public domain name of a notable dead person: "Faraday Institute," "Edison institute," or "Tesla Institute" assuming those are not already in use in your country. Edison (talk) 20:27, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

The passionate shepherd to his love.

I have been asked to read this Christopher Marlowe poem at a forthcoming wedding and am happy to do so. But given that Marlowe was a contemporary of William Shakespeare the style of "olde" English is 16th century and myself and the congregation will struggle with it. Does anyone know how I can hear it being spoken by a competent speaker more familiar with that style. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.229.241 (talk) 09:21, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Looking at the poem here it doesn't seem to be written in 16th century English. The words are simple and the rhymes will benefit from some practice read-throughs. My advice would be to read it evenly and slower than you might think comfortable. So many speeches and poem readings are spoiled because the nerves of the speaker or reader force an unnatural pace by which the listeners cannot catch the words and meaning. Listen to this for as good an example as you'd want to hear. Good luck. Richard Avery (talk) 09:56, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

In those days lots of lyric poetry was intended to be sung rather than recited, and that probably applies to that poem. If you have the musical skills, you should think about finding a way to sing it. Even if not, singing it to yourself, with some random melody, will give you a feel for how to recite it effectively. Looie496 (talk)17:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

In fact a whole bunch of people have written music for that poem, including P. D. Q. Bach. Looie496 (talk) 17:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Also you can find literally dozens of versions on Youtube, some recited and some sung. Looie496 (talk) 17:20, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

As the OP here, I want to sincerely thank all the above respondents, especially Richard and Looie. I did find some recitals on YouTube which were most helpful and reassuring in that my own recorded attempts were not too far from those portrayed there. So thanks folks, I am now more confident about making my "speech". I also learned a lot about the contemporaniousness between Marlowe and Will Shakespeare, even to discovering there is a school of thought that suggests they were one and the same person, with Marlowe being "conveniently" killed off at the tender age of 29 after allegedly offending the Privy Council of the day. Convenient for Shakespeare if he was actually responsible for causing that offence methinks. But I would ask Richard why he suspects that the poem itself is not apparently written in 16th Century English. All the references I have found suggest quite strongly that the poem is authentically late 16th Century. But thanks anyway. I am sure the wedding reading will be fantastic after following your tips. 82.41.229.241 (talk) 22:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes it was written at the turn of the 16th Century, but the English isn't too far removed from modern English. Many people seem to think that because something is 400 years old then it must be incomprehensible to us, but it's not. Where I grew up in the Black Country, people still speak a dialect that sounds very much like some of the speeches in Shakespeare, those made by the "base" characters such as Mistress Quickly or Sir John Falstaff. Marlowe's verse is more akin to Shakespeare's sonnets, or a speech made by a major character such as Henry V or Iago. (As an aside, I have heard poetry from the 20th century read at family occasions in a very stilted fashion, suggestion no preparation was done by the family member beforehand. That was offensive. The very fact that you are taking your duties so seriously will mean your efforts will be appreciated.) --TammyMoet (talk) 07:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I commented that it didn't seem to be written in 16th century English because I was surprised by how modern the language appears. I was expecting something more ... er ... 16th century. I don't doubt it, just surprised by it. Richard Avery (talk) 07:18, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

The version most commonly seen on the net seems to be the one in Palgrave's Golden Treasury of 1875, which has modernised the spellings to 19th century standards. An earlier version can be seen here - although the words are the same, the spelling is distinctly odd to modern eyes, for example: "Sheepheards feede theyr flocks". Alansplodge (talk) 12:21, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

How to find Committee against Torture decisions

Hi,

I quickly browsed and searched the website of the Committee against Torture, and I also googled a few keywords, but I didn't find anywhere the CAT decision of 17 January 2012 about Azerbaijan mentioned here (I get an error message when I follow the link to un.org given on the Lifos page). I found it neither on the decisions page given in the WP article nor on Refworld. Any idea?

Thanks. Apokrif (talk) 16:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I found this (communication No. 374/2009) but with a slightly different date (17 January 2012 seems to be the date of publication, not decision). Apokrif (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Condom

What is difference between regular and dotted condom ? GiantBluePanda (talk) 19:59, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The dots are "for her pleasure". Someguy1221 (talk) 20:33, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

But, What are dots ? GiantBluePanda (talk) 21:47, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

More latex in a pattern around the condom. Do a Google image search and you'll see examples. Dismas|^(talk) 22:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

sensitive articles

I dont know if this is already asked before or where i can find an article that discusses this concern, but do you think some articles here in wikipedia just helps give an idea on how to do some criminal work, like the money laundering article. 203.112.82.128 (talk) 22:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps, but the police can read the articles too. Hiding knowledge is very rarely the way to make the world a better place. HiLo48 (talk) 22:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't even worry about criminals who need to base their activities on wikipedia articles. It's the ones who don't we should be concerned about. Hot Stop 04:14, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

It's not as if you can't get the information easily elsewhere. Plus they're not detailed how-to guides. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:18, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

No, not as detailed as the CCTV clips of store/service station armed hold-ups we see every night of the week on the TV news. I'm sure a lot of people think "That looks easy, I'm gonna try it". -- ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ ^{[your turn]} 22:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Every time I see one of those I think to myself that, if I was going to rob that store, the first thing I would do is disable the CCTV. (Whoops, did I just give advice to criminals, or are they too dumb to read this anyway?) HiLo48 (talk) 23:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

True story: a nefarious friend of mine did just that. Unfortunately he forgot to cover the camera first and so the local rag printed the last picture taken by the CCTV camera, which had been sent to the controlling computer... --TammyMoet (talk) 08:06, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Disabling cameras isn't always so easy. There can be many of them, each covering the others, so they film you as you disable the others. They may also have hidden cameras, and you can't disable the ones you can't find. If they are smart, they also send the recordings somewhere off-site as they are recorded, so they can't be deleted. (And presumably severing the communications line will set off alarms.) StuRat (talk) 08:13, 5 August 2012 (UTC)