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editThis article is up for deletion and I'm trying to determine if there are good sources out there. We've found one in German at google books but we can't see the entire page. Can someone help us see the whole mention so we can determine whether this is a bare mention or lengthy coverage? Thanks for any help! valereee (talk) 12:42, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- I couldn't get a better preview, but managed to tease out some more text by repeatedly searching for the last phrase of each search result:
- "Das ist ein einfaches, typisch nordhessisches Essen aus einer Mehlschwitze mit ausgelassenem Speck und darin gebratenen Zwiebeln, dazu gab es Pellkartoffeln. Manchmal aß ich bei den Schneidersleuten am Tisch mit. Der Geruch dieses..." [1]
- "Der Geruch dieses Duckefetts lag mir immer sehr in der Nase. An Gerüche kann man sich noch lange gut erinnern. Der Schneider hatte nicht nur seine Schneiderstube in Riede. An einem Tag in der Woche war er auch in Kassel, in der Dörnbergstraße. Dort hatte er sich ein Zimmer angemietet für seine Kasseler Kundschaft. „Da kann euer Junge ruhig mal mit hinfahren", meinte der Meister zu meinem Vater. Wenn der Schneider von seiner Kasseler Kundschaft sprach, dann bemühte er sich immer hochdeutsch zu sprechen. Die Kunden in Kassel waren irgendwie vornehmere Leute als die Dorfbewohner". [2]
- Not sure if that helps? Alansplodge (talk) 19:08, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- Some further sources: my grasp of German is somewhat limited, but try:
- Du Stadt im grünen Grund by Manfred Knierim.
- Deutschland: das Kochbuch by Alfons Schuhbeck.
- Hessisch kriminelle Weihnacht: 25 Krimis und Rezepte edited by Ursula Schmid-Speer, Anne Hasse.
- Alansplodge (talk) 18:44, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Alansplodge I'll take this back to the AfD discussion! valereee (talk) 19:14, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
I would like to phone them please. 50.68.237.196 (talk) 23:30, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- Get on their website and see what they show for contact info. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:20, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- For some reason the website is based in Germany. Here are the details of the Canadian office:
- Viacom
- Suite 501
- 1 Eglinton Avenue East
- Toronto
- ON M4P 3A1
- Canada
- Telephone: 416-969-7050
- Fax: 416-969-7138. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23A8:4015:F500:C195:713A:F5F1:B646 (talk) 12:42, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
For me, from an ordinary NZ residential ISP connection, this website https://www.vh1.com/ explicitly says "
Please also note that you are accessing a site which is designed for and targeted to U.S. audiences and is governed by and operated in accordance with U.S. laws.
" on the bottom banner probably intended in part for General Data Protection Regulation compliance. I did not look where the website is hosted as it didn't seem particularly relevant.If I try to access from a UK or German VPN, I am redirected to their Facebook page with Facebook set to German but still the generic Facebook page. https://de-de.facebook.com/VH1/ Well I didn't investigate if this is one of those fancy auto country redirect Facebook pages, but other than the German interface it looks like a generic VH1 page probably mostly targeted at American audiences with shares etc in English. It's possible that Facebook didn't see my VPN in the same way, although I did access from private mode so it probably wasn't my login data that confused it.
Whatever the case a reminder perhaps that you can't assume what you see will be the same as what someone else sees especially when accessing from a different country.
In this particular case, while I can't speak for what you saw, for what I saw it looks to me mostly down to careless GDRP paranoia since as said, it simply redirects to Facebook with the German interface but a Facebook page that seems targeted at American audiences. I mean according to VH1 (UK & Ireland) they actually have a website https://www.mtv.co.uk/vh1 it would make more sense to direct UK audiences to anyway.
I'm not sure if they also have a website to direct audiences of the VH1 (European TV channel) to. Your comment seems to suggest they do, but I admit I find it suspicious they will have both some German website I didn't see, and that Facebook with German interface redirect. (At most, as said earlier maybe they do have a German targeted Facebook page that I didn't see.)
Nil Einne (talk) 13:10, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- Another example: [3]. Is this an example of "GDPR paranoia", and if it is, why is the language selected in both cases German? 2A00:23A8:4015:F500:890F:6145:E7B2:A97D (talk) 15:35, 18 February 2019 (UTC)