I need the equivalent of "#" (automatic numbering) for tables. Please see the tables in List of living supercentenarians. This is a list every day people die, and people are discovered. This means that the rank numbers in the first column must be updated by hand. what I need is some kind of this:
I've been playing with numbered lists in tables recently for a different template, and this problem is a lot more difficult than it might seem. automatic numbering of lists only works in a very restricted set of circumstances, and it's very difficult to simulate with templates (because templates have very little self-referencing capability). I'm thinking about it, but I suspect that if a solution is possible, it will be more difficult to use than manual renumbering. --Ludwigs217:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
basically, you adjust the CSS properties so that the 2 tables look like they are one table. it doesn't really help your problem.
it occurs to me, though, that you could create a 'fake' table with of an artful use of html lists and CSS. it would be kind of odd-looking, though. let me see if I can make a quick mockup. --Ludwigs202:54, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, thanks for you answers. I was able to make this table:
There is only a problem where people are tied. Is there any way for a double highth row? I've already tried with colspan="2", or highth="xxpx".Japf (talk) 22:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to force a row to be double height, add <br> after the text. the break followed by a non-breaking space will make the browser expand the row vertically to contain the text. --Ludwigs223:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It worked. Now there are two other problems, maybe they are correlated. In the portuguese version the table looks almost good, but the double cells with <br> are a little shorter than twice the highth of the other ones. Here in the english version all the cells in the rank column are shorter. I've been doing the changes in the table above. Japf (talk) 11:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
well, HTML and CSS have the same effects in portuguese as in English. it's possible that the Portuguese Wikipedia has different CSS definitions for a 'wikitable' (or use a different term than 'wikitable' for this kind of table). there are a handful of basic problems here:
there are 59 entries for people, but less than 59 numbers (57, 55,53, and 51, at least, are missing)
the outer table should set the alignment to top (align="top") so that both of the inner tables start flush to the top
you'll probably need to make sure that an explicit width is set for the two inner tables using CSS in both the English and Portuguese versions. html will adjust layout depending on width of the browser widow, which means that sometimes the text in table cells will wrap, and sometimes it won't, which will throw off alignment.
I don't understand what's happening here, but the portuguese table (see the second table in [6]) is perfect. The problem that I refered before, happened because I couldn't spell the word "height" well.Japf (talk) 23:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
lol - that's because the Portuguese table is a single table whereas what you're trying to do is create something that looks like a single table by using two tables. apples and oranges. --Ludwigs223:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Something was lost in translation. That "table" IS two tables that look like one. We were able to do it, but only in the portuguese wikipedia. There´s something different in the english version, and it was nice to know what.Japf (talk) 00:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
sorry, I was looking at the first table there (which is just one table). the second table on that link is two tables, and looks just as mucked up as this one. --Ludwigs203:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It should be a matter of servers or definitions, because I see it the way it should be. This means the trouble it's hard to solve.Japf (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
I had to force the row heights to be equal. Now it's solved.[reply]
It is still a work in progress. I am, however, confident that I can fix the table formatting and also allow for tied rankings which require numbers to be skipped.
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The only major limitation I am aware of is that it will only do a maximum of 50 entries when I am done. This however could be worked around as follows:
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|#|[[Moloko Temo]]<ref>[http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=797750 Notícia do 134º aniversário de Moloko Temo]</ref>
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{{!}} 4 de julho de 1874
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|#|[[Maria Olívia da Silva]]<ref name="Silva">[http://www.bonde.com.br/bonde.php?id_bonde=1-3--8-20090301 Notícia do 129º aniversário de Maria Olívia da Silva]</ref>
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{{!}} 28 de fevereiro de 1880
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{{!}} {{BRA}}
|#|Tuti Yusupova<ref name="Yusupova">[http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Mundo/0,,MUL979937-5602,00.html G1- "Uzbequistão diz ter a mulher mais velha do mundo"]</ref>
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{{!}} 1 de julho de 1880
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{{!}} {{UZB}}
|#|Juana Bautista de la Candelaria Rodríguez <ref>[http://www.cubanoticias.ain.cu/2008/1224maslongeva.htm Notícia da Agência Cubana de Notícias sobre Juana B. C. Rodríguez]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 2 de fevereiro de 1885
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{{!}} {{CUB}}
|#|Cliceria Gómez-Morales
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{{!}} 20 de setembro de 1885
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|#|Ida Stewart <ref>[http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20090106T210000-0500_144531_OBS_IS_IDA_STEWART_THE_WORLD_S_OLDEST_PERSON__.asp Notícia sobre Ida Stewart]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 5 de novembro de 1886
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{{!}} {{JAM}}
|#|Sadiq Sawut <ref name="china">[http://noticias.uol.com.br/ultnot/efe/2008/10/07/ult1766u28235.jhtm</ref>]
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{{!}} 9 de agosto de 1887
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{{!}} {{CHN}}
|#|Magomed Labazanov <ref>[http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080505/106640433.html]</ref>
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{{!}} 1 de maio de 1890
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|#|Maikup Zhan<ref name="china"/>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 15 de junho de 1890
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1890|6|15}}
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|#|Ana María Pérez González<ref>[http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2007/06/23/index.php?section=sociedad&article=034n1soc Notícia de Ana Maria Pérez González com 117 anos]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 22 de junho de 1890
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|#|Baji Safaorva
{{!}} F
{{!}} 3 de julho de 1890
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{{!}} {{AZE}}
|#|Amai Cering<ref>[http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-03/18/content_6546104.htm Notícia do 117º aniversário de Amai Cering]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 16 de março de 1891
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1891|3|16}}
{{!}} {{CHN}}
|#|Sóstenes Martínez<ref>http://notizie.virgilio.it/gallery/la_giornata_mondiale_dei_guinness.html,zoom=245681.html</ref>
{{!}} M
{{!}} 22 de abril de 1891
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1891|4|22}}
{{!}} {{MEX}}
|#|Elias Athanasiades
{{!}} M
{{!}} 14 de maio de 1891
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1891|5|14}}
{{!}} {{GRE}}
|#|[[María Díaz Cortés]]<ref name="Cortes">[http://www.diariodesevilla.es/article/sevilla/315819/la/abuela/vacie/cumple/manana/anos/con/una/salud/perfecta/y/la/mente/despierta.html Notícia do 117º aniversário de María Díaz Cortés]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 4 de janeiro de 1892
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1892|1|4}}
{{!}} {{ESP}}
|#|Rebecca Lanier <ref name="Lanier">[http://www.townhall.com/video/foxlocal/2086_old325081 Notícia do 116º aniversário de Rebecca Lanier]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 24 de março de 1892
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1892|3|24}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Elizabeth Johnson<ref>[http://www.usnews.com/blogs/planning-to-retire/2009/1/5/the-new-worlds-oldest-person-is-114.html]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 25 de dezembro de 1892
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1892|12|25}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#| Richard Washington <ref name="Washington">[http://www.thestate.com/local/story/374262.html Notícia do 115º aniversário de Richard Washington] </ref>
{{!}} M
{{!}} 13 de abril de 1893
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1893|4|13}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|He Wenzhang<ref>[http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-10/07/content_10159584.htm]</ref>
{{!}} M
{{!}} 9 de abril de 1894
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1894|4|9}}
{{!}} {{CHI}}
|#|Tǎnase Tǎnase<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.jurnalul.ro/articole/97273/cel-mai-batran-barbat-din-lume|title=Cel mai bătrăn bărbat din lume|date=2007-07-15|work=Jurnalul National|first=Paula Anastasia|last=Tudor|language=Romanian}}</ref>
{{!}} M
{{!}} 15 de outubro de 1894
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1894|10|15}}
{{!}} {{ROM}}
|#|María Norberta Rivera-Ramírez<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.am.com.mx/Nota.aspx?ID=225866&strPlaza=Leon&IDPlaza=1|title=Vive 3 siglos|first=Manuel Mora|last=MacBeath|work=Periódico AM}}</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 5 de junho de 1895
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1895|6|5}}
{{!}} {{MEX}}
|#|Transito Ayala <ref>[http://www.elespacio.com.co/publicaciones/mod.php?mod=userpage&color=1&page_id=17224</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 13 de agosto 1895
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1895|8|13}}
{{!}} {{COL}}
|#|Susan Middleton <ref name="Middleton">[http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/feb/19/local_woman_turns31089/ Notícia do 112º aniversário de Susan Middleton]</ref> <ref name="GRG">http://www.grg.org/Adams/E.HTM tabela EE da GRG</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 19 de fevereiro de 1896
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1896|2|19}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Melinda Harris<ref name="Harris">[http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:jDiRA4G5ingJ:www.cravencounty.com/minutes/BC2008/RG050508.pdf+melinda+harris+112th+birthday&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1 Notícia do 112º aniversário de Melinda Harris]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 4 de maio de 1896
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1896|5|4}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Katerina Heyman <ref name="Heyman">[http://www.thestar.co.za/?fSectionId=&fArticleId=vn20080808070700728C774902 Notícia do 112º aniversário de Katerina Heyman]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 8 de agosto de 1896
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1896|8|8}}
{{!}} {{RSA}}
|#|Lake Dickson <ref name="GRG"/>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 19 de janeiro de 1897
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1897|1|19}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Ruby Muhammad <ref name="Muhammad">[http://www.sacdhhs.com/CMS/download/pdfs/HHS/Mother-Ruby-Muhammad.pdf Notícia de Ruby Muhammad com 111 anos]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 20 de março de 1897
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1897|3|20}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Ronnie Fairbanks<ref name="Fairbanks">[http://www.foodonfoot.org/web_article.php?web_article_id=38 Notícia do 111º aniversário de Ronnie Fairbanks]</ref>
{{!}} M
{{!}} 27 de maio de 1897
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1897|5|27}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Marianna Ostrowska<ref>[http://miasta.gazeta.pl/bialystok/1,78942,6022907,Podlaskie__tu_sie_dopiero_dluuugo_zyje.html]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 5 de agosto de 1897
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1897|8|5}}
{{!}} {{POL}}
|#|Maria Pogonowska<ref>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380711167&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 30 de outubro de 1897
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1897|10|30}}
{{!}} {{ISR}}
|#|Delma Kollar <ref name="GRG"/>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 31 de outubro de 1897
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1897|10|31}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Teresa Dosaigües <ref name="Dosaigües">[http://www.catradio.com/pcatradio/crItem.jsp?seccio=galeria&idint=127&opcio=1527155 Notícia de Teresa Dosaigües com 110 anos] </ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 13 de fevereiro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|2|13}}
{{!}} {{ESP}}
|#|Eufrozyna Kaminski<ref name="Kaminski">http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Family+fêtes+long+life+filled+with+love/1368243/story.html Notícia do 111º aniversário de Eufrozyna Kaminski]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 7 de março de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|3|7}}
{{!}} {{CAN}}
|#|Marcelle Narbonne<ref name="Narbonne">[http://www.argeles-sur-mer.com/granote/?file=Catal1593941937_P15.pdf Notícia do 110º aniversário de Marcelle Narbonne] {{In lang|fr}}</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 24 de março de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|3|24}}
{{!}} {{FRA}}
|#| Elsie Freeman<ref name="Freeman">[http://www.nypost.com/seven/06142008/news/regionalnews/brooklyn_bday_girl_hits_110_115450.htm Notícia do 110º aniversário de Elsie Freeman]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 13 de junho de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|6|13}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Kate Lowenthal<ref name="Lowenthal">[http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2008/09/17/a1a_super_centarian_0918.html Notícia de Kate Lowenthal com 110 anos]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 17 de setembro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|9|17}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Andrew Hatch<ref name="Hatch">[http://www.kcbs.com/pages/3096014.php? Notícia do 110º aniversário de Andrew Hatch]</ref>
{{!}} M
{{!}} 7 de outubro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|10|7}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Rosa Wilkes<ref name="Wilkes">[http://www.chicagodefender.com/article-2189-casting-a-historic-ballot.html Notícia do 110º aniversário de Rosa Wilkes]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 10 de outubro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|10|10}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Hagar Young<ref name="GRG"/>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 11 de outubro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|10|11}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Alwine Werner<ref name="Werner">[http://www.nealirc.org/Gerontology/OldestWomanGermany.html Notícia do 110º aniversário de Alwine Werner]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} November 10, 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|11|10}}
{{!}} {{GER}}
|#| Anthone Phipps<ref name="Phipps2">[http://www.contracostatimes.com/thejournal/ci_11196184 Notícia do 110º aniversário de Anthone Phipps]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 7 de dezembro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|12|7}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Salome Korn<ref name="Korn">[http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2008/12/14/birthdays/bkorn.txt Notícia do 110º aniversário de Salome Korn]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 12 de dezembro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|12|12}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Michalina Wasilewska<ref name="Wasilewska">
[http://www.mmwarszawa.pl/3025/2008/12/31/sto-dziesiate-urodziny-rodowitej-warszawianki?districtChanged=true Notícia do 110º aniversário de Michalina Wasilewska]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 21 de dezembro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|12|21}}
{{!}} {{POL}}
|#|Juanita Elliott<ref name="Elliott">[http://hamptonroads.com/2008/12/christmas-cheer-big-mama-her-110th-birthday Notícia do 110º aniversário de Juanita Elliott]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 24 de dezembro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|12|24}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Lillian Leblanc
{{!}} F
{{!}} 26 de dezembro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|12|26}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Gertrude Noone<ref name="GRG"/>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 30 de dezembro de 1898
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1898|12|30}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Doris Nash<ref name="Nash">[http://www.itvlocal.com/meridian/news/?player=MER_News_15&void=279316 Notícia do 110º aniversário de Doris Nash]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 19 de janeiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|1|19}}
{{!}} {{UK}}
|#|Marie-Jeanne Faure-Geors<ref>[http://www.ledauphine.com/anniversaire-chez-marie-jeanne-faure-geors-la-doyenne-des-hautes-alpes-a-souffle-ses-110-bougies-@/index.jspz?chaine=20&article=96316 Notícia do 110º aniversário de Marie-Jeanne Faure-Geors]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 31 de janeiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|1|31}}
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|#|Fannie Buten<ref name="Buten">[http://www.grg.org/Calment6.html Notícia do 110º aniversário de Fannie Buten]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 1 de fevereiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|2|1}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Elizabeth Buhler<ref name="Buhler">[http://www2.pembinavalleyonline.com/?option=com_content&task=view&id=10005&Itemid=315 Notícia do 110º aniversário de Elizabeth Buhler]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 8 de fevereiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|2|8}}
{{!}} {{CAN}}
||Maude Buckley<ref name="Buckley2">[http://neighborsgo.com/index.php?page_id=1000&site_page_id=302&sblog_id=954&year=2009&month=2 Notícia do 110º aniversário de Maude Buckley]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 8 de fevereiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|2|8}}
{{!}} {{EUA}}
|#|Pearl Lutzko<ref name="Lutzko">[http://www.thestarphoenix.com/Ituna+woman+celebrates+110th+birthday/1300519/story.html Notícia do 110º aniversário de Pearl Lutzko]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 15 de fevereiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|2|15}}
{{!}} {{CAN}}
| |Mildred JaMais<ref name="JaMais">[http://www.tbnweekly.com/pubs/clearwater_citizen/content_articles/021809_cit-04.txt Notícia do 110º aniversário de Mildred JaMais]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 15 de fevereiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|2|15}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Elspeth Wood<ref name="Wood">[http://www.harrowobserver.co.uk/west-london-news/local-harrow-news/2009/02/18/harrow-woman-celebrates-110th-birthday-116451-22953883/ Notícia do 110º aniversário de Elspeth Wood]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 18 de fevereiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|2|18}}
{{!}} {{UK}}
||Anna Pendley<ref name="Pendley">[http://newsok.com/life Notícia do 110º aniversário de Anna Pendley]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 18 de fevereiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|2|18}}
{{!}} {{EUA}}
|#|Santa Gennari<ref name="Gennari">[http://www.ilquotidiano.it/articoli/2009/02/20/95243/santa-gennari-detta-santina-compie-110-anni-comunanza-paese-della-salute Notícia do 110º aniversário de Santa Gennari]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 23 de fevereiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|2|23}}
{{!}} {{ITA}}
| |Hillard Hudson<ref name="Hudson">[http://www.eclassifiedsnetwork.com/content.aspx?IsHome=1&MemberID=1220&module=Page&ID=1279 Notícia do 110º aniversário de Hillard Hudson]</ref>
{{!}} M
{{!}} 23 de fevereiro de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|2|23}}
{{!}} {{USA}}
|#|Margaret Fish<ref name="Fish1">[http://www.biggleswadetoday.co.uk/bigg/Happy-110th-birthday.5046786.jp Notícia do 110º aniversário de Margaret Fish]</ref>
{{!}} F
{{!}} 7 de março de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|3|7}}
{{!}} {{UK}}
|#|[[Anexo:Lista de supercentenários australianos#John Campbell Ross|John "Jack" Campbell Ross]]<ref name="Ross">[http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/5382155/last-surviving-wwi-veteran-turns-110/Notícia do 110º aniversário de John Ross]</ref>
{{!}} M
{{!}} 11 de março de 1899
{{!}} {{age in years and days|1899|3|11}}
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