Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Expulsion of Cham Albanians

Expulsion of Cham Albanians

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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The filing party (the editor who opened this request) will add the basic details for this dispute below.

Editors involved in this dispute

1. Robert McClenon (talk · contribs) – filing party
2. SilentResident (talk · contribs)
3. DevilWearsBrioni (talk · contribs)
4. Athenean (talk · contribs)
5. Resnjari (talk · contribs)
6. Alexikoua (talk · contribs)

Articles affected by this dispute

1. Expulsion of Cham Albanians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted

• Talk:Expulsion of Cham Albanians
• User talk:SilentResident
• Dispute Resolution Noticeboard

Issues to be mediated

What is this dispute about? What sections, sentences, or issues in the article(s) can you not agree on? If you are the editor who opened this request, list these issues to be mediated under "Primary issues". If you did not open this request, you can add additional issues to be mediated under "Additional issues". The issues to be mediated would be properly agreed upon later, if this request for mediation is accepted.

Primary issues (added by the filing party)

1. Should the article be tagged as containing original research? If it contains OR, what should be removed to remove the tag?
2. Should the article be tagged for neutral point of view? How can everyone agree to make the article neutral?
3. Multiple content issues about the article.

Additional issues (added by other parties)

• Additional issue 1
• Additional issue 2

Parties' agreement to mediation

If you are a named party, please sign below and indicate whether you agree or refuse to participate in mediation. Remember that all editors are obliged to resolve disputes about content through discussion, mediation, or other similar means. If you do not wish to participate in mediation, you must arrange another form of dispute resolution. Comments and questions should be made underneath the numbered list below, to avoid confusion.

1. Agree or Neutral. (I am not a party to the editing, but am trying to engage in dispute resolution.) Robert McClenon (talk) 16:56, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
2. Agree DevilWearsBrioni (talk) 10:01, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
3. Agree Resnjari (talk) 15:40, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
4. Agree Alexikoua (talk) 10:11, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
5. Agree SilentResident (talk) 11:00, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

This section should only be edited by a mediator. The Mediation Committee's representative will indicate in due course whether the request is accepted (meaning a mediator will be assigned) or rejected (meaning you will have to try a different type of dispute resolution). If the mediator asks you a question in this section, you may edit here.

• Chairperson's Note. I'd like to try to prevent confusion and unnecessary discussion by making some things clear before everyone starts weighing in.

• First, if you have been listed as a party but do not care to participate in the mediation and you agree not to edit the article, or continue discussion at the article talk page, on the matter in dispute you may say so rather than accepting or rejecting and your withdrawal will reduce the party count.
• Second, in determining whether prerequisite to mediation #5 has been met conditional "accepts" will almost always be counted as rejects unless the condition is something which is always done in mediation anyway. If the reason for conditioning your "accept" is to contest the way the issue to be mediated is stated by the listing party or to insure that your additional issue is considered, bear in mind that if the case is accepted for mediation and a mediator accepts the case that the mediator will negotiate the exact issues to be mediated with the parties; if you are not satisfied with the outcome of that process you may withdraw from or reject the mediation at that time. Based on the party count at this time, we will need at least 6 accepts before the case can be accepted.
• Third, even if the minimum number of "accepts" is met if many fail to either accept or reject acceptance it is possible for the case to be accepted but the mediator determine that there aren't enough parties or aren't enough necessary parties for the mediation to succeed (see the next subsection) and close it.
• Fourth, please understand what mediation can do. It will not hear the arguments and make a judgment as to what is correct. What it will do is to attempt to provide a moderated and guided environment where discussion can continue with as little drama as possible with a view to reaching consensus. While mediators work diligently towards coming to a negative or positive consensus, they also realize that "no consensus" is a perfectly acceptable result under Wikipedia's wiki concept.
• Fifth, realize that mediations typically take weeks and sometimes months to complete.
• Sixth, please do not engage in discussion or reply to other users on this acceptance page. Either just accept or reject (or withdraw, see above) and, if you care to do so, add additional issues in the appropriate section above.
• Seventh, in this case I presume that Robert McClenon has filed this as a convenience to the parties and will not be participating in the mediation. For that reason, he will not be "counted" as a party unless he indicates otherwise.

I'd strongly recommend that all parties read the Mediation Committee policy before deciding to accept, reject, or withdraw. For the Mediation Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:41, 27 September 2016 (UTC) (Chairperson)

• Accept. This case is provisionally accepted for mediation. I have put out a call for a mediator to take the case. If a mediator accepts the case, I will assign them to the case and then they will commence the mediation on the talk page here; if no mediator accepts the case within seven days, the case will be retroactively rejected for lack of a mediator. For the Mediation Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:09, 5 October 2016 (UTC) (Chairperson)
• Reject, retroactively. No mediator willing to accept the case. For the Mediation Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 04:50, 13 October 2016 (UTC) (Chairperson)
• Rejection withdrawn, mediator appointed. Shortly after the case was rejected for lack of a mediator, an emeritus member of the Committee volunteered to take the case so I'm withdrawing the rejection and appointing Anthony Appleyard as mediator of the case. The mediation will take place on the talk page here. For the Mediation Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:10, 13 October 2016 (UTC) (Chairperson)
• Chairperson's note: I've moved the beginning of mediation to the talk page of this request page. Mediation should be carried out there. Doing it here blows our bot's little electronic mind. Best regards and best hopes for a great mediation and resolution, TransporterMan (TALK) 22:54, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Further discussion

• The further discussion is at Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Expulsion of Cham Albanians. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:22, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.