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- Editors involved in this dispute
- BiblioJordan (talk · contribs) – filing party
- Absolutelypuremilk (talk · contribs)
- Rjensen (talk · contribs)
- The Four Deuces (talk · contribs)
- Articles affected by this dispute
- Neoliberalism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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What is this dispute about? What sections, sentences, or issues in the article(s) can you not agree on? If you are the editor who opened this request, list these issues to be mediated under "Primary issues". If you did not open this request, you can add additional issues to be mediated under "Additional issues". The issues to be mediated would be properly agreed upon later, if this request for mediation is accepted.
- Primary issues (added by the filing party)
- Several editors have objected to the statement in the "Feminism" section that the neoliberal turn within mainstream feminism has contributed to the popularity of Hillary Clinton, and have repeatedly deleted that passage. Rjensen argues that because the cited source does not VERBATIM say "Clinton is a neoliberal," that characterizing her in that way constitutes "reading between the lines" and is therefore a contentious statement. Jensen also alleges that "no other major RS makes any such allegation." But while the cited source does not say so verbatim, it very clearly identifies Clinton as being within the neoliberal tradition as described in the rest of the Neoliberalism entry. I believe a neutral reader of the original source will have no doubt about the authors' characterization. And it is false that "no other major RS" characterizes Clinton as a neoliberal (see, among many others, <ref>Liza Featherstone, ed., "False Choices: The Faux-Feminism of Hillary Rodham Clinton" [London: Verso, 2016]<ref>). Most of the other editors, apart from Rjensen, agree that Clinton's policies can be fairly characterized as neoliberal, but allege that she is being "singled out" by her inclusion in the entry. My response is that Hillary Clinton is arguably the most visible example of neoliberal feminism, and thus merits mention in the section on "Neoliberal feminism."
- Rjensen and others have also alleged that the original source does not come from a Reliable Source, based on ad hominem, redbaiting attacks on the journal where it originally appeared (see Talk page for details).
- One user, "The Four Deuces," contends that a claim must enjoy "universal acceptance" to merit inclusion in a Wikipedia page. But very few statements on Wikipedia---including many statements on the Hillary Clinton page and the Neoliberalism page---in fact enjoy that level of acceptance. In this case, since the argument is (somewhat) contested, it is properly characterized as a legitimate but contestable claim of the article's authors. The passage deleted by Rjensen frames the argument in precisely that way---not as universally accepted truth, but as an argument supported by evidence.
- Additional issues (added by other parties)
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- Agree. BiblioJordan (talk) 03:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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