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Primary and secondary schools

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The result was draftify‎. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:39, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St. Mary's Boys Senior High School, (MARISCO)

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Does not fit GNG or SNG. Only appears to have one source and the source does not go into depth. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keystone Academy

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Unable to find sufficient WP:SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources to meet WP:GNG/WP:NSCHOOL. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete need more significant coverages. Xegma(talk) 13:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lacks sources for notability --Loewstisch (talk) 08:39, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

La Joya Early College High School

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This school has insufficient coverage to be notable. Fails WP:NSCHOOL, hence, fail WP:GNG. A possible ATD is La Joya Independent School District. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 00:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect and merge to La Joya High School Same building, same personnel, just a different 'grade'. Nate • (chatter) 00:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Malvern College Chengdu

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A search for sources in English and Chinese in google news did not come up with enough to meet WP:NSCHOOL. As it stands, this article is based on its own website. LibStar (talk) 07:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails all notability guidelines. Search performed yielded no useful results. Ednabrenze (talk) 08:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kartal Anatolian High School

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I did a search and this seems not to be notable Chidgk1 (talk) 19:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Procedural keep: While I acknowledge that high school articles are not automatically notable, there is a community consensus that a good faith WP:BEFORE that includes some print resources or local newspapers is needed, per this RfC. This is especially important given the underrepresentation of high schools from the non-English-speaking parts of the world on the English Wikipedia. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 23:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fuzhou Gezhi High School

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I searched for sources and did not find enough good ones to show notability. However as the article is in 2 other languages speakers of those languages may know better than me. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:47, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: scrapes by GNG based on the sources I found ([1][2][3][4][5]). It was built in 1847 so much coverage is likely offline. Not sure where to look for Chinese newspaper archives. C F A 💬 18:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sri Lohit High School

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Please see tags Chidgk1 (talk) 14:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - No RS found. Sohom (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ankara National Lottery Anatolian High School

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Although some Anatolian High Schools are notable, from searching for sources I think this is not Chidgk1 (talk) 14:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Found [6][7][8]. Probably not enough to meet GNG. Most coverage of schools is from when they were built and thus likely offline. C F A 💬 18:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I would say almost all Anatolian High Schools established in the early 90s or before and required entrance exams are very likely to be notable, especially in metropolitan cities like Ankara. They were extremely hard to get in via the nationwide admission tests. Many sources covering them would be offline, unfortunately. This particular school seems also notable because it was the first such school founded by the National Lottery Administration. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 19:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Turns out the name of the school has changed in 2012, following 2011 Van Earthquakes. The new name is Betül Can Anadolu Lisesi. One needs to be in the top 3.75% of the participants in order to be placed into this school. I am pretty sure this was much tougher in the pre-1997 era, when there were fewer Anatolian High Schools and the placement was done after 5th grade, so they did not have to compete with Science High Schools. This itself does not bring notability, I know, but it significantly increases the likelihood of coverage in reliable sources. E.g., here is a news story about a success of their students. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 01:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new name may lead to sources that show notability, but qualitative statements about the school, even if sourced, really have nothing to do with notability in the way the term is used on Wikipedia 4.37.252.50 (talk) 03:58, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jalalabad Cantonment English School And College

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The cited sources are two press releases (Sylheter Dak and Daily Jalalabad), a list of the ~60 schools operated by the army, a job posting, and the school website. Searches in English and Bengali found a few primary source breaking news stories, generally of the form "so-and-so, a student at Jalalabad Cantonment English School and College",[9] but no independent, secondary sources containing significant coverage of the school itself. Therefore does not meet WP:NSCHOOL and should not be a stand alone article. Worldbruce (talk) 06:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Worldbruce Seriously? No independent sources or secondary containing significant coverage? Look again and see the citations and what should i attempt to do. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 08:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete- per nom; it is a well-reasoned and convincing argument.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammadpur A. Gafur Government Primary School

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Other than some passing mentions, there is no coverage about this primary school. There are million schools like this in Bangladesh, we don’t create article just because it exists. The school fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL, WP:GNG. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 08:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, your argument for why it should be deleted has several problems, You said "There are milion schools like this in Bangladesh'', This is factually incorrect because there are about 5 to 8 times less schools in Bangladesh than you said, Even though the report is 3 years old, not many instituitions have been created in just 3 years. And also, It would be grammatically correct, if you said ''there are millions of schools like this one in Bangladesh,'' I think you forgot to add s to article. I also have spelling problems and also problems in grammar, The spelling and issues in grammar are not really the problem, Contradictions are the problem. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 09:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, Most pages in fact, 50% of all pages about schools need to be deleted then, There are several sources talking about the instituition and about it. There are not just passing mentions, Not every instituition will get significant coverage, Yes, just because a school exists does not always mean, It should get it's own page. That is correct. However some schools get attention from Independent and Non-Independent Newspapers, News Portals and Websites, Those are the ones that I am creating now, I might have made mistakes in the past, However I now kind of understand. And, in my opinion, this system sucks, If a page gets deleted, and then the topic gets high attention and coverage from many sources, It will still be deleted because It has some similiarity of the page when It was previously deleted. There are not milions of schools in Bangladesh, That is factually incorrect, You are just saying factually incorrect stuff and try to make sense, Just because you have a high edit count, and there is less sources of a instituition than others does not mean It will be deleted, Instead of constantly nominating pages for deletion, It is better to find sources, Improving the page and if unable to find any, then it makes sense to nominate it for deletion. I will try to find sources about the instituition. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk)

Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Please provide significant coverage from reliable sources (see WP:SIGCOV) rather than adding 17 passing mentions. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 10:39, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Not all citations just mention the name, Some citations do provide some other information, that is why I put citations that just mentions the school next to name or other text. There are thousands of pages with citations that just mention the name and nothing else that remains and does not get nominated with, and those pages are seen by hundreds or even thousands, yet no nominations, Meanwhile pages like this one have information get nominated for deletion, despite giving more information than just the name. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 12:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the sources are passing mentions, directory listings, or talks about a teacher dies in road accident. As i mentioned above, there is zero WP:SIGCOV about this school. Most of them are also unreliable. Please provide sources that are SIGCOV and reliable. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 15:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most of them are unreliable? Ok, and there are some passing mentions and articles about a teacher who unfortunately died in a road accident, However there is more than that, Sure I will try to provide more information. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 08:45, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Riverview Cantonment Board School

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Other than some passing mentions, there is no significant coverage about this school. The school fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL, WP:GNG. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 08:38, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, Most pages in fact, 50% of all pages about schools need to be deleted then, You delete pages with significant coverage as well, There are several sources talking about the instituition and about it. There are not just passing mentions, Not every instituition will get significant coverage, Yes, just because a school exists does not always mean, It should get it's own page. That is correct. However some schools get attention from Independent and Non-Independent Newspapers, News Portals and Websites, Those are the ones that I am creating now, I might have made mistakes in the past, However I now kind of understand. And, in my opinion, this system sucks, If a page gets deleted, and then the topic gets high attention and coverage from many sources, It will still be deleted because It has some similiarity of the page when It was previously deleted. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk)

Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Please provide significant coverage from reliable sources (see WP:SIGCOV). আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 10:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not all citations just mention the name, Some citations do provide some other information, that is why I put citations that just mentions the school next to name or other text. There are thousands of pages with citations that just mention the name and nothing else that remains and does not get nominated with, and those pages are seen by hundreds or even thousands, yet no nominations, Meanwhile pages like this one have information get nominated for deletion, despite giving more information than just the name. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (Talk)

I will try to find more sources to the school BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (Talk)

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There are 7 references in the article. Reference 6 is written by a teacher of that school (WP:PRIMARY), and the remaining references are either passing mentions or directory listings. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 14:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it was written by a teacher, but the other citations are not just passing mentions. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 08:28, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because the school does have more than just passing mentions and directory listings, there are also many pages about schools and educational institutions without any citations in Wikipedia for years without any risk of deletion, However there should be a template to indicate that the page has many issues, during that time, We shall attempt to find more sources. This school in Postogola Cantonment is kind of notable. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 14:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SDMT Prabhavati Public School

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Not notable educational institution. I can find nothing except listings showing it exists. Fails WP:GNG 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:58, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES: Even there's only primary sources, that warrants an own article about the school. So, it's not a valid reason for deletion. Further please see the google reviews to see it's existence Veejs7er (talk) 10:26, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Secondary schools were once inherently notable, and many articles were created on that basis. That changed a few years ago. Schools must now pass WP:NSCHOOL. Existence is not sufficient. There must be notability. This is irrespective of the date the article was created 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to lack of significant coverage. This basic rule requires that “multiple” sources exist - at least 2 or 3. In fact, having only one source is equivalent to original research, which we’ve never, ever published, because we are not a primary source, and in 2024 everyone knows that. Existence is not enough: there are rules to avoid chaos. I’m a bit more lax in my own standards, but even under those, I’d delete this page. Bearian (talk) 01:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Udayan Secondary School, Barisal

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One of about 35 secondary schools in the city. Translated from the Bengali Wikipedia. All the content comes from the school's website. The other source cited, barisallive24.com (now dead), is obscure and of unknown reliability but probably partly supported the last sentence of the article. That sentence has lost something in translation. In its history the school has received two awards for excellence. Not, judging by the barisallive24.com title, for being the top school in the country, but for their results within Barisal District.

Searches in English and Bengali found a few primary source breaking news stories, but no significant coverage of the school itself.[10][11][12] Nothing more has been written about the 2013 allegation or the 2017 and 2020 complaints about fees. Without multiple secondary sources containing significant coverage, does not meet WP:NSCHOOL. Open to redirection to List of educational institutions in Barisal District, where the school is listed. Worldbruce (talk) 22:31, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Universities and colleges

KDK College of Engineering

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WP:MILL institution. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. The sources that i could find are either primary, routine, or school/college databases. Recommend Redirect to Rashtrasant Tukadoji Maharaj Nagpur University. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 13:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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IILM University Greater Noida

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This degree-awarding institution has insufficient coverage to be notable. Fails WP:NSCHOOL, hence, fail WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 00:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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North Malabar Institute of Technology

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This exists, but even the very stubby article doesn't prove it. Its own website server fails to respond. Not inherently notable. Fails WP:NCORP 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Back in 2015 the creating editor twice removed a {{merge to}} template, refusing to discuss it. I am not averse to a merge if deemed appropriate 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Kannur University. LibStar (talk) 00:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nagoya Bunri University

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The only source is a dead link. The article was created when Wikipedia was growing rapidly and had different standards. Private universities must now show evidence of passing WP:NCORP. I searched, albeit in English, for references and failed to find suitable ones. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Weak delete~~ Keep Took a bit of digging but I managed to find an archived version of the ref [13], but it's to the university's own website. Otherwise I couldn't find anything else, though the reason I'm not strongly for deletion because all too often I've seen cases where no sources for something were found just because we're limited in our search results, although jawiki doesn't have anything but that source either [14]. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 20:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Changing to keep per Taku. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 01:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: English sources may be lacking but, according to my quick Google search, it seems there are a plenty of Japanese sources (many for prospective students). So, I think the notability is clear. —- Taku (talk) 08:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TakuyaMurata: Could you please link some of those sources? Thank you ‍Relativity ⚡️ 17:39, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly.
https://aichi-gakuchou.jimu.nagoya-u.ac.jp/university/%E5%90%8D%E5%8F%A4%E5%B1%8B%E6%96%87%E7%90%86%E5%A4%A7%E5%AD%A6

https://www.daigakuin.ne.jp/schools/nagoya-bunri-grad/

https://passnavi.obunsha.co.jp/univ/3815/top/

https://shingakunet.com/gakko/SC003112/

https://manabi.benesse.ne.jp/daigaku/school/6551/hensachi/index.html

https://www.best-shingaku.net/daigaku/school2184/gakuhi.html

https://www.shidaikyo.or.jp/newspaper/rensai/daigakuhayuku/post-140.html

Most of them are for students who are interested in applying for the university but I think they should be enough to establish the notability. —- Taku (talk) 08:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can say there are no newspaper articles, for example, but a university isn’t a kind of a thing that is written about frequently in news media. But that doesn’t mean the university is not notable. It is often said a university is inherently notable except when it’s not a real university. The above should at least establish the university in question is real. —- Taku (talk) 08:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Taku. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Japanese sources. Nominating a Japanese article for deletion without first doing a WP:BEFORE search for Japanese language sources per WP:NOENG isn't great form :( DCsansei (talk) 07:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SDM College of Engineering and Technology

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Not notable educational institution. I can find nothing except listings showing it exists. Fails WP:GNG. Existing references are useless to show WP:N 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Current references are either from it's own website, or university ranking sites. Spacepine (talk) 03:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SDM Law College

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Not notable educational institution. I can find nothing except listings showing it exists. Fails WP:GNG 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SDM Institute for Management Development

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Not notable educational institution. I can find nothing except listings showing it exists. Fails WP:GNG 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Other school or university articles

List of Indian engineering colleges before Independence

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This list has a finite boundary, which is a good thing, but I cannot see that this is a notable intersection. From that perspective I feel it fails WP:NLIST. At the very least it deserves the community's scrutiny. I feel the History section is valid. this, if the outcome is to delete I feel this shoudl be migrated, probably précised, in to a new article 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of schools in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Fresno

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Tagged uncited for more than 15 years and only the 2 high schools have articles Chidgk1 (talk) 14:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge the two notable high school entries to Roman Catholic Diocese of Fresno#Schools. Left guide (talk) 05:26, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UPEI Student Union

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While UPEI is notable, the union does not inherit that notability. This serves as a promo piece. Wozal (talk) 14:43, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The union receives very regular coverage from the CBC:

And from, as far as I can tell, at least one other outlet:

https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/lifestyles/20-questions-with-upei-student-union-president-camille-mady-100895015/

So maybe it can still go in UPEI, but you can’t dismiss this out of hand. Mrfoogles (talk) 15:05, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge - to the university. The secondary sources both on the article and listed here, are transactional in nature, rather than the detailed sources that are required to show notability. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 20:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Siebel Scholars

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Insufficient referencing to demonstrate notability. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 02:56, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments - First, there are several websites with text almost identical to this article, but I can't tell whether the WP article is WP:COPYVIO or a case of citogenesis: (1), (2), (3).

The article needs to be revised to resolve the possible copyvio problem.

Second, there are sources that could be used in an overhaul effort for this article:

Third, there are multiple listings by college, annually, naming scholarship awardees at the various institutions, with descriptions of the award, which colud provide in depth, reliable sources to revise the article.

Last, perhaps the best solution to the problem of potential copyvio might be to draftify this article, and rebuild it from secondary, reliable sources. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 17:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A copyvio is unlikely. Looking through the article's history, the current version developed slowly over time. Here is the copyvio comparison for your link no. 1. It's blatantly obvious (and also kinda funny) that they just copied text from Wikipedia and made some minor changes to disguise it ("29" -> "various", "selected" -> "chosen", "on the basis of" -> "based on"). The comparison tool doesn't work for the other two links, but they're dated so we can look at the latest revision before they were published. For both no. 2 and no. 3, the text was already there. So the copyright concerns are baseless and the article should definitely not be draftified. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both of the sources flagged here are WP:PRIMARYSOURCES. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There is a list of potential sources here, though it seems they are all from universities involved with the programme. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Redirect to Thomas Siebel#Philanthropy.~~ I looked for sources and all I could find were press releases and content promoting the scholars on the websites of their colleges and universities; none of these are independent coverage. It's a WP:GNG fail, but as an AtD we can redirect to the discussion of the founding donor's philanthropy in his bio. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Thomas Siebel or Improve. There are pages about the scholars at the websites of colleges and universities, and contrary to comments above I do consider these as RS. There is a burden on universities to be honest, so if something is published then they consider it at least slightly notable. That so many have relevant press releases says a lot. I will oppose a redirect as the section Thomas Siebel#Philanthropy does not cover this largish program. Improve is my preference, I think the editor missed what is needed for notability, and maybe nobody helped. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The press releases and official publications of universities of scholarship awardees cannot be considered "independent". Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly disagree with that statement. If universities publish misinformation on their webpages there are serious consequences. Hence what they publish is much, much more rigorously curated than many newspapers. Ldm1954 (talk) 20:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is reliable. But it is not independent. The question is not whether what they write is true, it is why they publish it. However a books search shows mention of Siebel Scholars in multiple books. Some are primary sources, yet the mention of Siebel Scholars in, e.g., [15]^: 132 amounts to secondary information in a primary source. Some are just passing [16] and some are not independent [17] but I think it would be worth looking at those a little more closely. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I found reliable, in-depth sources on newspapers.com and ProQuest, and added content that is evidence of GNG. (Note: to access the ProQuest sources, first login to Wikimedia Commons, then login to Wikipeia Library, then scroll down and open the ProQuest link. Finally, click on the ProQuest ID link in each citation.) The article's sections, "Participating Schools", and the "Conference Topics & Speakers" are still completely un-referenced, and should probably be deleted or references provided. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 03:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Grand'mere Eugene makes a strong WP:HEY case, having expanded the page from a good number of newspaper sources. There is a question sometimes about the extent that a newspaper article is a primary source, if it merely reports in a local paper that a student has received the award, but the coverage goes beyond this. In addition there are book sources. I state above [18]^: 132 is a primary source, but the section about the Siebel Scholars is secondary information in that primary source. The Meth project link also gets discussed in [19]^{: 158, 286} although that is not in depth. This one [20]^: 283 talks about an extension of the prgram into biomedical engineering. There are many that reference funding. My reading is still not exhaustive of these, but I think that this has sufficient penetration and sufficient sourcing to cross the bar. Thanks, also, to Grand'mere Eugene for improving the article. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:HEY (previous !vote struck above); article still needs cleanup but sources found and added bring it over the bar. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

West Bengal Centralised Admission Portal

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Lacks significance. It's just an admission portal. The article doesn't appear to be significant enough. Thewikizoomer (talk) 10:30, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your feedback on the article about the "West Bengal Centralised Admission Portal. I believe the portal plays a significant role in modernizing the admission process for government colleges in West Bengal. It ensures greater transparency, accessibility, and efficiency for thousands of students annually. Additionally, the portal has received considerable recognition from government and media sources, highlighting its transformative impact on the state's education system. I will enhance the article with additional citations and details to better reflect its importance.

Also same type of articles exist on the Wikipedia

Sistema de Seleção Unificada

Common Application Arijit Kisku (talk) 16:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: It lacks notability, no major significance of the subject, Common App is very popular and one of the only ways to apply in the US, this portal doesn't have that notability. Xoocit (talk) 23:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The West Bengal Centralised Admission Portal is a crucial government initiative that facilitates admissions to over 460 government and government-aided colleges in the state, serving more than 5.2 lakh students annually. The portal's impact has been widely covered by reliable newspapers like The Telegraph India and others, further establishing its importance in West Bengal's education system. While not globally known like the Common App, it plays a transformative role regionally, making it notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia.

Arijit Kisku (talk) 19:56, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It might serve a specialized purpose, but is not notable. Many countries have specialized national admission arrangements. ~~

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