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how to make sure content boxes (frames?) are properly aligned?

I recently made an edit on the discography section of the band Orphaned Land, specifically in the "other albums" section, but the lines of the "Title; Album details; notes" boxes do not seem to be properly aligned. How can I fix this? werewolf (talk) 04:37, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

I want to remove an article

I made the msityake of updating something and it's just been too much drama IMO. I work full-time and am the caretaker for someone who is ill. We'll move our article to my hometown's museum website and bow out of wikipedia. I just don't like a bunch of petty, wanna be sad little people How do I get my article taken down so I don't have to deal with you people any more? I have copied and saved itJanemcclure (talk) 18:52, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Janemcclure. I presume that this refers to the discussion at Wikipedia:No_original research/Noticeboard#Klemme Community School, which I just started and notified you about. I am sad that you consider me "petty, wanna be sad little people", when I was trying to help by attempting to find a way to resolve the original research problems that the Klemme Community School article has. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:59, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

can I deal with someone who is nort cordless larry?

I just want to be told how to remove an article. I don't want the drama of edits. Please!Janemcclure (talk) 19:19, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

I assume you are talking about Klemme Community School. There is only one way to do that, nominate it for deletion at WP:AFD. I do not believe you will be successful as the school is notable. ~ GB fan 19:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

I concur; this appears to be a good article that just needs some cleaning up, which I believe is where Cordless Larry was going with it. - NsTaGaTr ^(Talk) 19:33, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

It has been nominated for deletion, You can read the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Klemme Community School. ~ GB fan 19:37, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

At the risk of further provoking Janemcclure by trying to help (this will be my last post on this topic), might WP:G7 not apply here? Cordless Larry (talk) 20:11, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

IMO we should not be deleting articles simply because someone associated with the subject is suffering from WP:OWN and doesn't like Wikipedia policies being applied to "their" article. It seems to me that Janemcclure would do better to understand the policies at hand... and that includes WP:NPA, our policy against personal attacks. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 00:16, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

No, @Cordless Larry:. I don't believe that there is any way that WP:G7 applies here. G7 is for when "the only substantial content of the page was added by its author", and in this case the article was created by a different user (though with a similar name) from the one now requesting deletion, and there have been numerous other contributors in the intervening 10 years. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:45, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, David Biddulph. Based on a very quick scan of the history, I believed that Jane might have been the only person to contribute actual content to the article, rather than just tweak formatting, etc., but on a closer look, it seems I was wrong about that. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:50, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Want an article removed

Klemme Community School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I'd like the Klemme Community Schools article removed. PLEASE! I researched and wrote it years ago, and when it was lifted and republished and sold as part of a book, Wkipedia did nothing. Absolutely nothing. Then when I tried to expand it someone who calls himself cordless larry was a petty little PITA about things. I don't have the desire to make a bunch of edits. i don't have the technical wherewithall to do what needs to be done as a volunteer. I have to work for a living. We had posted a copy on my hometown's museum webpage after it appeared here and that is where it can stay, frankly, since I do not and do not wish to meet your petty standards. Can you please take the article down? Or do I have to take legal action? I made the rwquest and there were a bunch of suggestions to improve it TAKE THE ARTICLE DOWN Janemcclure (talk) 21:38, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

@Janemcclure: I would highly advise you to not threaten legal action, which is not permitted and would result in you being blocked. You can pursue your grievances in the courts or on Wikipedia, but not both. (See WP:NLT). 331dot (talk) 21:43, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

then please take my article down. I have asked and asked, and I will keep asking until it happens. It's just unthinkable that when it was ripped off and published by someone else, nothing was none to protect my rights.

And then you are all, oh, we will block you. where's the equity in that I cannot do the typing to make citations. I have disabilities and my hands don't work. I cannot spend hours on citations. Please take the article down. Janemcclure (talk) 21:49, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

There is a deletion discussion which you can contribute to, but deletion is not guaranteed. As long as an article is supported with proper sources and the subject is notable, it generally cannot be removed. Once you save something to Wikipedia, it is no longer yours to exclusively control. (WP:OWN) I'm sorry. 331dot (talk) 21:52, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

If you need assistance with citations, please ask. 331dot (talk) 21:55, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Cordless Larry was doing his best to help you. If you're going to insult those who try to help, it discourages anyone else who might feel like helping. Maproom (talk) 22:23, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Greetings Janemcclure, and welcome to the Teahouse. All content on Wikipedia is licensed under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License, as stated at the bottom of every article as well as underneath the edit summary every time you edit Wikipedia. (Some content is also licensed under GNU Free Documentation License as well, but that does not apply to Klemme Community School.) Once information is saved to Wikipedia, it is available for anyone to copy or use in derivative works for any purpose, even for profit, as long as they attribute the source (the Wikipedia page in question, which itself would attribute the original content provider[s] in the form of the edit history) and as long as they provide the copied or derived content under a compatible license. You still retain your rights to use your own content in any way you see fit; the museum is under no obligation to attribute Wikipedia on their website, for example, assuming you personally gave permission to the museum to use the content you provided (and not anything another Wikipedia editor added). However, as long the requirements of the CC-BY-SA license are met, there are no restrictions for anyone else to use the Wikipedia content as they see fit as well. I do apologize if this was not clear to you from the beginning.
That being said, if the publisher you mention did not attribute Wikipedia in their work then they are absolutely violating the CC-BY-SA license. In that case you could initiate action, such as described in Wikipedia:Standard CC-BY-SA violation letter. Please keep in mind, however, that you would be initiating action on Wikipedia's behalf, and not your own. I hope this helps! CThomas³ (talk) 22:29, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cthomas3 Sorry, a small correction to the above. The copyright of articles (those parts that are not using other's non-free copyrighted works under fair use, such as quotations) and which meet the threshold of originality for copyright protection, are owned personally, by the contributors of the content, and are exquisitely not owned by Wikipedia or Wikimedia. Thus, a person suing for copyright infringement would have to be a major contributor to an article, and would very much be suing on their own behalf, as the copyright owner under the free license (so the statement "you would be initiating action on Wikipedia's behalf, and not your own" is exactly backwards). On the same issue, to meet the free license or licenses of our content, the person needs to post the license and provide suitable attribution to the authors, not to Wikipedia, which we interpret as providing a link to the article or the contributions where the list of authors can be accessed. Because us contributors own the content we contribute, that is also why an alternative way to provide suitable credit under the two free licenses borne by most content is to simply list the Wikipedia users shown in a page history. This is not done mostly because it's much easier to link to the article where the page history is, rather than to list many authors, for an article of any length (though it's also less well known). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:13, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Fuhghettaboutit, for that clarification. I knew that anyone taking action had to be a major contributor to the article in question but clearly I misunderstood the cause of action part. :) CThomas³ (talk) 01:16, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

and now I posted my response in the wrong place. The article is not good enough and needs work. I'd rather take it down. Then it becomes no you can't. It feels like a beat-down. I want it taken down. I cannot find the deletion discussion. You have all of these rules that are not clear. i know it's not your intent but the person who was first involved was a bully. and in my world we don't use fake names. that may be your rule but we don't do that in in my work.

i want the article taken down. This is like the time a crminal beat me oer the head time and time again. It's mean and hurtfulJanemcclure (talk) 01:46, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Janemcclure, please listen. You do not have the right to request or demand the article be taken down. You surrendered that right the second you pressed the "save page" button. Yes, you wrote an absolutely terrible encyclopedia article. Obviously besides not understanding how Wikipedia works, you do not understand what an encyclopedia is. However, the subject you wrote about is a notable subject. The article is nominated for deletion, and that discussion is linked on the article. However, it is likely the article will be kept, as the nomination and most of the votes to delete centered around a copyright concern based on you copying the article on to another website. That's allowed, and thank you for clearing that up. Please stop asking that the article be taken down because you want it taken down. That is not going to happen, and you are wasting people's time by continuing to ask. You are of course welcome to make an argument for deletion at the deletion discussion, but be advised, "I want it taken down" is not a valid argument in any way. Your continual postings here have become disruptive, I've removed the misplaced one immediately proceeding the last one here. Making an "I want it down" argument at the deletion discussion will also be considered disruptive and could lead to your editing privileges being suspended or revoked. There is a link at the delition discussion edit page on how to make a deletion discussion argument. I'd strongly suggest you read it. John from Idegon (talk) 02:34, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Why is it ok to call someone's work terrible/

John from idegon just insulted my work. If it is so terrible why can't it be deleted?Janemcclure (talk) 11:41, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Stop repeatedly starting new sections on the same topic. I've moved this to a sub-section of the existing discussion. And if you take the trouble to read the answers you have already received, you would see the answer to your question. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:14, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

The article cannot be deleted because we do not deleted terrible articles about notable subject, we improve them instead. (Note: I have not looked at your article and cannot comment on whether it is good or not.) Your text will likely be overwritten, but not entirely deleted, because per Wikipedia's license requirements, we credit the author of (almost) every edit of every page for the work they have done (no matter how poor); consequently, your work will still be visible in the page history of the article. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:24, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

You insult everyone who tries to tell you something, Janemcclure first consider what users are saying. You are wasting your and our precious time. Please don't waste time. Don'twasteTime (talk) 01:42, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Article creation request Helmetdon web site

I request any fellow Wikipedians to write a neutral article on helmetdon a web site from Coimbatore India, I would like to avoid writing the article myself due to COI as I am paid directly or indirectly by Helmet don. I can answer any questions from fellow Wikipedians on information that may be required to write the article. Ramcoimbatore (talk) 06:35, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

The purpose of this forum, Ramcoimbatore, is for new users to get help with the editing processes on Wikipedia. Your posting is not that. Try WP:Missing articles. John from Idegon (talk) 06:53, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

How to edit.

Iam new user tell how to edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidjonesxp (talk • contribs) 07:15, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

@Davidjonesxp: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. To learn how to use and edit Wikipedia, you may find it helpful to play The Wikipedia Adventure, a tutorial of sorts structured like a game. You can get there by clicking WP:ADVENTURE. If you have any specific questions about editing, feel free to add them to this section by clicking the word "edit" above this section and posting below. 331dot (talk) 09:34, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Licensing for photos of a historic church

A complex question: I have been building the page for Saint Paul's Church, Augusta, GA. I want to upload more recent photos of the church that have been taken by the parish photographer. Recently an Augusta resident noted that photos of Saint Paul's are being used without permission on the literature and websites of Georgia legislators. Is there a way to license photos obtained from Saint Paul's to prohibit their use in political publications, or would it be necessary to limit the license to non-commercial uses?Lady Serif (talk) 20:07, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey Lady Serif. Honestly, the easiest thing to do would be to choose a different picture from Commons:Category:St. Paul's Episcopal Church (Augusta, Georgia), since they are already licensed for public use. GMG^talk 20:17, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks GreenMeansGo. I will give that some thought.Lady SerifLady Serif (talk) 20:28, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

When an image is put on Wikipedia Commons, it becomes available for anyone to use, including publishers of political leaflets, so long as due acknowledgement to Wikipedia in given. Maproom (talk) 20:47, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Short answer is no, Lady Serif. Content on Wikipedia Commons is licensed for free distribution and modification with the only requirement being attribution. There is nothing wrong with others using the photos on commons for their own purpose, and the only thing that could be done is the original creator of the work could sue for the failure to proper attribute them. Since they are free anyway, I (not a lawyer mind you) cannot see where the monetary damages would possibly be and therefore that would be fruitless. Once uploaded to Commons, a picture is generally not removed, as it was licensed irrevocably. And non compatible licenses are not allowed. John from Idegon (talk) 20:52, 5 October 2017 (UTC) oops, repinging Lady Serif. John from Idegon (talk) 21:25, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

@Maproom: I will have to nitpick here. First, it is Wikimedia Commons. Second, CC-BY licenses requires to credit not the host of content (Wikipedia or the WMF), but the creator(s) of the work. It turns out that Wikipedia reusers agree to put a link to the page, and editors agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license (via the page history); but the "due acknowledgement" is not directed at Wikipedia in the first place. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:56, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

French Wikipédia

I have received an email purportedly from fr.Wikipédia with a request to log on and change my password. As I have not logged onto the French Wikipédia in months, this is clearly one of three things. Either a glitch, or an IP trying to log on in my name or a scam email.

Anyway which ever it is my French is not good enough to report it on the French wikipdia. Could a fluent French speaker who has an email address set on Wikipedia please post a message to my talk page so I can forward the message to them, so they can report it on fr.Wikipédia ?

-- PBS (talk) 09:56, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

• @PBS: I can speak French, but I cannot find anywhere where to report that kind of things on fr-wp. Nor do I think you should: of your three hypotheses, the second one is the most likely by far, and the proper procedure is then to just ignore it. Most likely, someone mistyped their username in the password reset form (fr:Spécial:Réinitialisation_du_mot_de_passe) (You can hover over the links in the email - do not click them - to check they point to <something>.wikipedia.org/<some page>, and if they do not, then it is a scam.)

This being said, if you have a specific request for translation, I will be happy to help. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 10:08, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

I speak some French but not enough to explain technical issues like this and in this case Google translate is my friend. My concern is not for myself, but if this was a systematic attack unless it is reported then no one may realise that one is occurring. As an aside I am an administrator on English Wikipedia and with the universal login system we now have, it could possibly be a way to try to get access to an administrators account via another language login. Anyway thanks for you advise and lets wait and see if anyone else has had a similar unsolicited request.-- PBS (talk) 10:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

I want to create a wiki page for the film director & libraian, how to create... How to do

I want to create a wiki page for the film director & libraian, how to create... How to do Chennai Information Updater (talk) 11:17, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Chennai Information Updater, and welcome to the Teahouse. You can find instructions here: Wikipedia:Your first article – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:50, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Downplaying America

Assuming you're Brits, or at the majority of wiki editors, why have you removed the description in the USA arctical that describes America as the prominent economic and cultural force in the world? If you claim that such a description is not relevant in describing a country on a Wikipedia page, then why have you left the lond arctical (describing its cultural leadership) intact? Don't you think that's a bit unethical and biased? After all...Wikipedia is a an American website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.49.2.145 (talk) 12:23, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Person editing from 50.49.2.145. You've made the error of thinking that Wikipedia is some central authority. It is not, and is rather edited by thousands of volunteers from all over the world. What happened here is that some particular user, from somewhere, removed something, from some article (not "arctical") that you don't name so we can't investigate which and thus why, or whether the reason for the removal had some reason behind it other than what you imply, though it sounds like the removal may have been because the content was jingoistic and biased opinion inserted into Wikipedia, in Wikipedia's voice. Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia, and it does not properly favor the U.S.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

It's probably about mid September edits to United States. Discussion belongs at Talk:United States and is already there. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:52, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

remove citation needed

How do I remove [citation needed] once I have added a citation? WistfulVistas (talk) 17:08, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

@WistfulVistas: Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. I guess you are referring to this edit, which only removed the date of the maintenance tag. I am not sure how Visual Editor works, but you should be able to remove the entire {{citation needed}} wikitext altogether to remove the {{Citation needed}} tag. Alex Shih^Talk 17:25, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

is a list of operating telescope instruments appropriate?

I want this article to exist so that I and other astronomers can quickly determine what instruments are available and adequate for observations we wish to conduct. I don't want to maintain such a list on my own, and I want those who build and operate the instruments to be able to edit the entries on their instruments at will.

My hesitation is that this information is useful pretty much only to astronomers. What I envision is a table listing each instrument, its wavelength range, whether it is a spectrograph or imager, its effective area, what telescope it is associated with, where that telescope is, ... Curious to know if this is an appropriate article.

Parkus.aurelius (talk) 17:48, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Parkus.aurelius. We already have at least 16 lists of various types of telescopes. Please check out Category:Lists of telescopes. If you have further questions after reading those lists, please continue this thread. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:16, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

FWIW, @Cullen328:, Parkus.aurelius is talking about scientific instruments that are attached to telescopes, rather than the various designs of telescopes themselves. I'm surprised that there isn't already something of the sort at a more specialised website (perhaps of a University or Observatory) specifically for astronomers (something I once studied to become, but a long time ago).

@Parkus.aurelius:, I'll probably be meeting up with a recently-retired professional astronomer in about 3 weeks and will try to remember to ask her about the topic: if she can point me to something, I'll post it to your Talk page. I would think that such a list in Wikipedia article form would have to be quite large to be at all comprehensive, and it would probably fall foul of the policy at WP:DIRECTORY. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.217.210.199 (talk) 00:15, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Correct, @2.217.210.199:, I am talking more specific than the list of telescopes that @Cullen328: put forth, but what I'm describing is pretty much a directory. Eager to hear what your friend says! I did find one list that an astronomer maintains, but it is specific to Optical/IR telescopes available to UK researchers. What I'm thinking would be a nice community resource, but I'm not keen on taking any substantial chunk out of my own research time to personally maintain it. Perhaps we need to create a wiki on an astro-specific site like astro-better. In any case, I'll refrain from creating a Wikipedia page. Parkus.aurelius (talk) 18:39, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Religious Affiliation of American Politicians.

As a longtime reader and monetary contributor to Wiki, I am extremely disappointed to see editing which is removing information on the religious affiliation of American Politician's.

For example, the Kennedy family and their Catholic religious affiliation used to be prominently displayed within the bio block on the right of the page.....but no more. As I looked at many other American politicians I notice that they too have had their religious affiliation removed.

Why is Wiki removing the religious affiliation of many American politicians from their bio??

This is extremely upsetting as this information is important in understanding the history of our country!

In fact, I am so upset about this I see it as an attempt to rewrite our history and that if it is not fixed and brought back to how it used to be I will stop donating to Wiki. Please put back in the religious affiliation of ALL American politicians like it used to be or I will publicly expose what is happening. 2001:48F8:303B:5EC:5D0D:121D:AB0:8AEA (talk) 15:35, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

You can read the discussion about why the information was removed from infoboxes at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 126#RfC: Religion in biographical infoboxes, this is not about suppressing information but making sure that what articles have to say about the religious affiliations, where relevant, is portrayed accurately and with due weight and not given as a simple single word entry which may need clarification. Nthep (talk) 15:45, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Not an answer, but, speaking as someone from Britain (where not only do we not have a constitutional separation of church and state, but our head of state is the head of the established church, and some of its bishops sit in the upper house of our legislature) the American obsession with the religions of its politicians seems bizarre in the extreme to me. Religion, or lack of it, is of small impact in our politics. --ColinFine (talk) 16:06, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

(The parameters were removed from the officeholder infobox following Template talk:Infobox officeholder/Archive 21#Religion in officeholder infoboxes.) – Rhinopias (talk) 18:57, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

I would add that your donations or lack thereof to the Wikipedia Foundation have no effect on the content here, other than to keep the servers running. 331dot (talk) 16:30, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

My teahouse account

I need help finding I can't find it SparkyHelper (talk) 22:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi SparkyHelper, welcome to the Teahouse. Click "Contributions" at the top right to see your edits. You have added yourself at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests/Left column#SparkyHelper and the following section. If you don't see the most recent edit to a page then try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:50, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Turn off visual editing

I don't know if I enabled the wrong feature, or if Wikipedia are "upgrading" their website with more javascript, but when I edit things there's now a loading bar that makes the page seem like it's taking longer to load. Can I turn this off? Or is it too late? Woscafrench (talk) 21:57, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Woscafrench, welcome to the Teahouse. It sounds like you have enabled either "New wikitext mode" or "Automatically enable all new beta features" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. Disable both if you want the normal source editor. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I think it was that I had the "Automatically enable all new beta features" flag on. Thank you. Woscafrench (talk) 23:07, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

How can I get a draft article reviewed?

The article, Draft:Arnold H. Wagner, was created in July 2017 but has not been reviewed.

SgtrinaldiSgtrinaldi (talk) 05:38, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Sgtrinaldi. An "article" and a "draft" are two very different things. Reviews of drafts are optional, and your draft has not been submitted for review. You are responsible for submitting your draft for a formal review if that is what you want. Follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:10, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

How to edit page title in widikata item?

I'm trying to change the name of a page from Future Generations Graduate School to Future Generations University, since that is what it's currently called. I edited the title on the wikidata page, but when I save the change, the title remains Future Generations Graduate School. Am I doing something wrong? How can I edit the title?werewolf 04:11, 7 October 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revirvlkodlaku (talk • contribs)

It's now been done by another editor. Maproom (talk) 06:35, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

How to edit an article

I am new user i like improve the article Dera Ghazi Khan.What can i do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidjonesxp (talk • contribs) 06:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Davidjonesxp: you could, for instance, improve the formatting of the Colleges section, where something has gone wrong near the top. Or do you have specific changes that you want to make, but don't know how to? If so, it'll help if you tell us what they are. Maproom (talk) 07:22, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

New Article Declined

Hi, I am Mouneshwar and I am new to wikipedia content creation. I am trying to create a wikipedia page of someone and my draft gets declined. Trying to get some help from experienced editors. Mouneshwar123 (talk) 08:18, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mouneshwar123: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. From looking at the draft, I think the main issue is that the sources given are not adequate. Two of them only mention the person you are writing about briefly, while the other is about him but written very promotionally. All articles need to have independent reliable sources(click WP:RS to review what those are) that indicate how the subject meets notability guidelines, in this case those for biographies(WP:BIO). That usually means the sources given have in depth coverage about the subject and not just a brief mention or promotional entry. If you need assistance with references, you can read WP:REFB to learn more. 331dot (talk) 09:05, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Can you review my draft page?

Hello, I am new in writing articles so every step that I am doing is a teaching for me. Can you please check whether my page does not have any mistakes that could cause that page will be declined? Thank you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ten%C4%8Dl,_Jakub

Tencl.jakub (talk) 11:16, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Tencl.jakub, and welcome to the Teahouse. The main problem with your draft about Jakub Tenčl in its current revision is that all of your "references" are to works written by Jakub Tenčl or to library listings showing that a book by him is in their collection. What you must have to establish the notability of Jakub Tenčl as Wikipedia defines notability are multiple sources which are reliable sources (typically books or newspaper or magazine articles), which are independent of Jakub Tenčl (so nothing published by him, but also no interviews with him or works by his student or employer), and which each cover him in some detail — more than a passing mention.

Since your username is Tencl.jakub, I have to ask if you are either someone affiliated with him or Jakub Tenčl himself. Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy applies if you are affiliated with him, and Wikipedia's autobiography guideline applies if you are him. If you are neither Jakub Tenčl nor affiliated with him, then it would probably be better for you to change your username. Please note that all of the blue text above indicates links to the relevant Wikipedia policy or guideline.

I hope I have answered your question adequately; if not, or if you have further questions, feel free to return to the Teahouse anytime. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 14:25, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Question time.

How fast does it take for questions to get answered. SparkyHelper (talk) 12:43, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Minutes. Besides it's either "how fast do questions get answered" or "how long does it take for a question to be answered". Kleuske (talk) 12:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

I would add to Kleuske's response, SparkyHelper, that it does sometimes happen that it takes longer than an hour for a question to be answered, for two main reasons: first, because all Teahouse volunteers are volunteers without any set schedule and so sometimes no one is around checking for new questions for a while; and second, some questions simply take longer to answer, either because they're technical questions not all volunteers know the answer to, or because the question requires some research on the part of the answering volunteer. Questions about whether a draft article is ready for submission, for example, often require not just looking over the draft itself (which may be quite long and/or technical) but evaluating its listed sources, which may be numerous. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 14:36, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Freenode wikipiedia live help

I am banned from freenodewikipedia live chat I get this message,Your reported hostname [107.196.245.154] is banned: I want it unbanned please it was banned for me not listening--SparkyHelper (talk) 15:27, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

@SparkyHelper: This has been answered above. Please don't ask the same question multiple times in multiple places. 331dot (talk) 15:31, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

No, when I type help then press live help I am banned. SparkyHelper (talk) 16:53, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, you're banned from freenodewikipedia live chat, we've got that. It seems you also don't read the responses to your questions here. Maproom (talk) 17:15, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Looking for Medical links

Hello... I am new to this encyclopedia and joined it b/c I am interested in Medicine. I am trying to find a place where I can access many medical links at once... a friend of mine told me this exists but I can't find it. Thx for helping.

C19H12ampION (talk) 03:22, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi C19H12ampION. I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for. There's the administration side of the project and mainspace, and an embarrassment of riches in the area. Here, dig away:

• Portal:Contents/Health and fitness
• Portal:Medicine

• Portal:Biotechnology
• Portal:Neuroscience
• Portal:Pharmacy and pharmacology
• etc.

• Wikipedia:Wikiproject medicine

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Neuroscience
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Physiology
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Anatomy
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular and Cell Biology
• etc.

• Wikipedia:Featured articles#Health and medicine
• Wikipedia:Good articles/Natural sciences#Biology and medicine

• Medicine
  Alternative medicine
• Medical education
• First aid
• History of medicine
• Nutrition
• Pharmacology
• Medical signs
• Medical specialties
• Symptoms
• Syndromes
• Medical technology
• Medical terminology
• Medical tests
• Traditional medicine
• Medical treatments

• Health
  Clinical research
• Disability
• Diseases and disorders
• Therapy

• Biology
  Anatomy
• Biological engineering
• Bioethics
• Cell biology
• Microbiology
• Physiology

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:20, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, C19H12ampION. You can find a treasure trove of information about our medical articles at Wikiproject Medicine. The handy and easy to remember shortcut is WP:MED. Please also take a look at Category:Medicine and its numerous subcategories. This will enable you to find almost every medical related article. Also well worth reading is Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine), since quality medical content on Wilipedia must summarize the highest quality sources. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:22, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Wow, that is a lot of links. Exactly what my friend said it'd be. Thx again... much appreciated. C19H12ampION (talk) 20:50, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Proposed Sullivan articles

I'd like to add 2 articles on a very prominent individual who is included in many different articles but no page exist to describe who he was or what he did. Daniel J Sullivan of San Antonio, TX and his Mariposa Ranch in Eagle Ford Shale of Texas. currently the largest undivided South Texas Ranch and still owned by his family. What is the best way to do this ? Additionally you have an article on his carriage house that is now at the San Antonio Conservation Society that was paid for by his wife and chairman of the board of the ranch and the foundation Daniel Joseph Sullivan Family Foundation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HBass214 (talk • contribs) 02:17, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, HBass214. You've already taken one of the possible approaches, by posting at Requested articles; but to be frank, not a great proportion of requests there get taken up. Another approach might be to make a request at WT:WikiProject Texas, but I don't know how active that is. You are welcome to try yourself, but creating a new article is not easy. Please start by reading your first article. If you have any connection with the foundation, or with Sullivan, you should also read about conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 09:55, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, HBass214, and welcome to the Teahouse. One thing to keep in mind: Importance isn't what decides whether or not we will have an article on a subject. Notability is. Notability means that a subject has been written about 1) in detail 2) in multiple 3) reliable sources, 4) totally independent of the subject. Best of luck, and be sure to stop back with any questions. John from Idegon (talk) 14:58, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Translation needed

I am new to editing and I would like to begin editing a topic with Italian sources in English, but I do not completely trust my own translations. Can I add them to the additional sources section and briefly describe them? 2604:6000:7D02:F400:8821:2BED:EDDB:D7BA (talk) 16:17, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Jon Brooks music

I want to know more about Jon Brooks, Canadian singer songwriter24.108.204.4 (talk) 17:03, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

You are in luck, we have an article about him here Jon Brooks. Theroadislong (talk) 17:08, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

HOW TO HAVE IN ENGLISH A TOPIC AVAILABLE IN OTHER LANGUAGES

Hi Teahouse, I'd like to add/create a new topic (FITSWORD that is already available in italian), but when I try, instead to see a box named FITSWORD I see a box named: Creating User:Andrea Mainini/sandbox

How can I shift to FITSWORD from "Creating User:Andrea Mainini/sandbox" ? Or otherwise, there is a way to just add the english translation to the already existing topic in italian?

thanks andrea mainini Andrea Mainini (talk) 16:25, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

@Andrea Mainini:, welcome to Wikipedia! Per WP:ACTRIAL, non Wikipedia:autoconfirmed users cannot create new articles. However you may create it in your sandbox and submit it for review. --Kostas20142 (talk) 17:09, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Andrea Mainini. Since each language Wikipedia is a separate project, creating an article in en.wikipedia is creating a new article, whether you have translated it or not: see your first article for a guide to the quite difficult process of creating an article. If you propose to create it by translation, that is fine, but remember that you must cite the source. Please see translation. --ColinFine (talk) 21:45, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

cover of newspaper "Overthrow" was refused (uploaded on wikimedia commons) and I would like an appeal

There is an active exchange on the talk page of "Youth International Party"--about how the newspaper cover is not allowed on, by Wikipedia policy. However, I was part of the collective that produced the newspaper and its *my* photo on the cover. Further, I have checked with the principal ON the cover (Joy Ryder... I fear Avis Davis has since met a bad end and I did *not* ask for the punkrock details), and the other ppl (besides me) who edited the paper and might object (but they wouldn't have) have passed on (Ben Masel and Steve Conliff, you can look it up). So it seems safe enough to put it there? As I said on the Yippie talk page, this particular cover says "rock against racism" on the cover and I would like to SETTLE IT once and for all, that *we were the first in the USA* to do those concerts. Everybody else claims they did it first, but notice the dates are all 1980 or later??? WE WERE FIRST and yes, history must know this! Yes we have footnotes but this is more visual, active proof. IT IS IMPORTANT. Please reconsider, and yes, Joy Ryder would like to be part of history too. And btw, I added maybe 50+ references to that thing, how'm I doing? kisses and hugz to yall PB57 (talk) 18:02, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

PumpkinButter: if I've understood you correctly, an image you uploaded to Wikimedia Commons has been rejected for copyright reasons. If you want to contest this (because you believe that all relevant copyright holders have given their consent), it's an issue for Wikimedia Commons, not for us here at English Wikipedia. The best place to appeal may be here. Maproom (talk) 19:55, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, PumpkinButter. Uploading an image to Wikimedia commons requires that the image be free to reuse for any purpose - either in the public domain or licensed under a suitable licence such as CC-BY-SA. Consent is irrelevant, unless the copyright holder (nobody else) explicitly consents to release it under a suitable licence: see donating copyright materials.

It appears that you are trying to upload the image in order to prove something. Please note that, like any other source, its authenticity for Wikipedia's purposes depends on its having been published by a reliable source: nothing else. Uploading an image, though it might be desirable for making an article attractive or clearer, is incapable of establishing any facts. --ColinFine (talk) 21:52, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

thank you! Maproom I will try again over at Wikimedia, but it sounds like a losing battle already. Bah. ColinFine And thank you for clarifying reliable source since in my short time here on WP I have already noticed that versions of history collide... whaaat? nah go on. I already have two copyright dates on the same book (one edition), so that is interesting. Thanks again! PumpkinButter (talk)

Innapropriate image's

Is Wikipedia doing anything about removing inapropriate images or at the very least setting a parental setting?22mikpau (talk) 23:14, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

@22mikpau: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please note that Wikipedia is not censored for any reason. If you wish to block the display of images, please click on and read WP:NOSEE to learn how to do that. 331dot (talk) 23:31, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi 22mikpau. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, so you would expect some explicit images in certain topics for educational purposes. If you believe that a particular image is unnecessarily explicit, then you could discuss this on the talk page of the article, and, if others agree, then the image will be replaced with one more suitable. This has been done in the past, but remember that editors are all volunteers and will have differing views about what it appropriate. Other than the blocking of all or selected images for your account as mentioned above, Wikipedia is like any other encyclopaedia that illustrates its content appropriately. Dbfirs 23:47, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Help with charts

There's this article on wikipedia that has a list of strange articles. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unusual_articles) However, I don't know how to add something into the table. I want to add the mandela effect into it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory#Collective_false_memories)

TheWildHammyBear123 (talk) 02:42, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi TheWildHammyBear123. I'm not sure having a second mention of the same article, even if it's a particular section iof that article is warranted. What I mean is that the article false memory is already listed at Wikipedia:Unusual articles#History (though before I found this, I was thinking that the section you're here about might best fit under Wikipedia:Unusual articles#Nervous system and behaviour). Note how I made the wikilink to the article: not with a URL, as above, but between doubled brackets: [[...]]; this is important as you would be using it to add the link to the article. To do so, you would

1. find the relevant section of the article;
2. click a side [edit] link at the top of that section;
3. place at the alphabetical point this markup between the entries where it will sandwich:

|-

|'''[[False memory#Collective false memories|Collective false memories]]'''

| Your description.

-

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:13, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I am assuming above you are using source editing and not the visual editor. If you are using VE, I can't help. But my experience with it, albeit long ago, was that it did not play well at all with editing tables or templates.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:19, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Fuhghettaboutit. I've used Visual Editor more recently to edit a table and found it actually quite easy to use (though I know that was not always the case). The learning curve, if one has been using Visual Editor for non-table editing already, is short and not steep at all, IMO. So TheWildHammyBear123 should be able to use either editing platform with roughly equivalent ease. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 12:03, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Help with putting an article in Wikipedia

I have wrote an article about someone to put in Wikipedia and it has not come on yet! Have I done something wrong? How long does it take to go online? Thanks for your help92.20.178.27 (talk) 12:02, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, IP user, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your question above is the only edit associated with your current IP address, so either you created the article from a different IP address (some ISPs change users' IP addresses from time to time) or you have an account but didn't log in before asking your question. If you have an account, please log in. In either case, please give us the exact article title you're talking about, preferably enclosed in double square brackets like so: [[Article title]] so that we can answer your questions. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 12:10, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

In the meantime, IP user, please have a look at your first article, to see the recommended ways of going about the task you've embarked on. --ColinFine (talk) 13:05, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

my article was declined and no reason given

my article on Daubism was declined when there are extensive articles on the WWW referring to it. I don't understand why this is and was hoping you could enlighten me? kindly Driller Drillerjet (talk) 06:01, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Drillerjet, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your article was declined because it lacked in-line references which are standard in Wikipedia articles. Please read WP:Referencing for beginners so that you can adjust Draft:Daubism and re-submit it. Dbfirs 07:18, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello Drillerjet. The main problem that I see with your draft article at first glance is that it consists almost entirely of quotations. A Wikipedia article should consist primarily of original prose written by Wikipedia editors (you in this case), and quotes (even if properly referenced) should be a small percentage of the article content. In addition, several of the quotes do not mention Daubism and therefore are of little use in the article. When I search Google Books, I do not see any discussion of this genre of painting in art history books although I see a few brief passing mentions of the court case. Since you originated this genre, you have an obvious conflict of interest and should defer to judgment of experienced, uninvolved editors. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:34, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed spotting the other problems. There is probably not much point in re-submitting the article in its present form. Dbfirs 15:35, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Duplication detector - when to remove tag?

I created an article Jane Kitto (musician). However, it was tagged by the duplication detector, close paraphrasing. I have edited the sections as best as I can, but am not sure if I could remove the tag myself or how to ask someone to review if the edits are sufficient. Most of the duplicates are names of albums, festivals, places and people. Or do I really need to edit every single sentence the detector has pointed out (e.g. "Jane Maree Kitto was born in...", "in her spare time..." etc.)? Thank you in advance! Cocojoxx (talk) 14:18, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on the subject, but no, you don't. A lot of those are phrases that you would expect to come up in any reasonable publication. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:22, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

edit intro paragraph

How do I edit the intro paragraph on a page? I don't see the "edit" link on that particular section. Slewis2200 (talk) 16:07, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

@Slewis2200: Use the edit link at the top of the page. RudolfRed (talk) 16:19, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

...or you can use Preferences to enable the option to "Add an [edit] link for the lead section of a page". --David Biddulph (talk) 16:25, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Beat me to it... I couldn't remember what tab it was in and had to go hunt for it, and by the time I found it you had already replied. :) -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

No article on "Parents Without Partners"???

"PWP" goes to "Professional Women Photographers".

There appears to be no article on "Parents Without Partners"?

2601:8A:C100:84CC:6506:1F00:4768:5E5C (talk) 23:45, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it seems you've found a gap, which would presumably be filled by a paragraph in Single parent. However, usually the hard part in writing about an association is finding independent, published, WP:reliable sources. If there are no news reports, academic papers etc but only what its own people say, we don't have anything, no matter how much they deserve. I do hope you or someone else can find proper sources. Jim.henderson (talk) 00:08, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Live chat

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I have been banned on live chat for not listening I want another chance please I am new to Wikipedia SparkyHelper (talk) 22:55, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, SparkyHelper. Since you are new to Wikipedia, let me give you some friendly advice: Do not ask the same question in several places. You already have an answer on your talk page, and left the same question for another editor. Please be aware that IRC chat is not an official Wikipedia function but rather an independent venture carried out by volunteers. Here at the Teahouse, we have no connection with IRC chat. Please read Wikipedia:IRC for more information about chat.

Here is another piece of advice: This is a project to build an encyclopedia. Devote your attention to improving encyclopedia articles. Asking questions behind the scenes is perfectly fine, as long as the questions are to support your actual contributions to the encyclopedia. Make that your first priority, please. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:31, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

how to update this profile on google

how to update this profile on google" why this content is not visible on google?Devusruthi (talk) 03:40, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@Devusruthi: Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. Articles will not appear on search engines until they have been approved to the mainspace. I have placed a blue button "Submit your draft for review!" in User:Varun Chandran/sandbox, so please click it to submit for review. Alex Shih^Talk 03:48, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

... but before you do that you ought to include in-line citations for the article text, see WP:Referencing for beginners. At present you have a number of misplaced external links, and it is possible that a number of those should be converted to references. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:33, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Review of draft

Dear Teahouse,Can You review the new amendments to the article and share your opinion on this matter.Thank you!Please explain me.Why the article is not accepted?Where is my mistake? Thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vagif_Ibrahimov Yours faithfully,Maryam.bzade20. Maryam.bzade20 (talk) 07:38, 10 October 2017 (UTC)Maryam.bzade20Maryam.bzade20 (talk) 07:38, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Maryam.bzade20 and welcome to the teahouse. You need to read WP:Referencing for beginners to understand the messages you have been left about in-line citations. Have a look at some similar articles to see how they should look, and ask again here if you need further guidance. Dbfirs 07:52, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Writing a company profile

Hi, I am bit confused as i am a naive writer whose first wikipedia profile got rejected. I seek to understand the premise of the firm profile on wikipedia should be like what. I seek to understand the different policies governing the idea of a company profile on wikipedia. Poet hector (talk) 10:32, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@Poet hector: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your use of the language "company profile" suggests to me that you have made a mistake common to new Wikipedia users and misunderstood what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, which is more selective about its content than social media and does not host "profiles", but articles. All articles on Wikipedia must indicate with independent reliable sources (click on WP:RS to review what those are) how the subject meets notability guidelines, in this case WP:ORG, those for businesses. Looking at your draft quickly, it appears that you have supported it with press releases, which is not sufficient, as press releases are not 'independent' of the subject. Wikipedia is not interested in what a subject says about itself, but in what third parties state about it with in depth coverage. Please understand that not every business merits an article here. I would suggest, before attempting to write an article(which is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia) that you take some time to learn about Wikipedia by using The Wikipedia Adventure, which is a tutorial structured like a game, and reading Your First Article to learn what is being looked for. 331dot (talk) 10:48, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Poet hector, welcome to the Teahouse. If you are you referring to Draft:Samskriti Business Solutions. the draft was rejected twice, each time with a link to a relevant policy or guideline. The first rejection stated that your draft read to much like an advertisement, and pointed to Wikipedia:ARTSPAM, the second rejection explained that the article was not suitable for an encyclopedia, and pointed you to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. The policy What Wikipedia is not is relevant to your submission because Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. In particular, see point 5 under that header. The other reason it is relevant is that Wikipedia is not a directory. Wikipedia is not the yellow pages where every business can get listed. To be included, a business needs to be notable. You can find our general notability guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline. The subject-specific notability guidelines for companies are at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) Mduvekot (talk) 11:06, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

ready to ask for article review

Hi, Created an article on my sandbox at UnlikelySailor, a bio of Reese Palley. As I created and worked on it there was always a box I could click for submitting my article for review. Now that I'm done working on article and ready to submit it for review, the box has disappeared. Arrgh! Thank you for any help you can give me.

butchUnlikelySailor (talk) 13:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi UnlikelySailor. It looks like you inadvertently removed the submission box with this edit. I've just put it back, so you can now submit the draft at your leisure. – Joe (talk) 14:30, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I would suggest that you don't submit it for review until all of the major information is supported with references to reliable sources though, UnlikelySailor. See Help:Referencing for beginners if you need guidance about how to do this, or ask here. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:32, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Adding another language for a term

I am planning to create a Chinese version for the English term "Fuertes Observatory". What should I pay attention to in this process? I am simply considering translating the English page. Do I need to contact the author of the English page?CX872 (talk) 14:27, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi CX872. You don't need to do anything here on the English Wikipedia. However, the Chinese Wikipedia may have some rules and procedures that you should follow. Not being able to read Chinese I can't tell you what those are, but I would recommend searching for their translation policy or asking an editor there. – Joe (talk) 14:33, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@CX872: Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. As Joe Roe have pointed out, you don't have do anything here on the English Wikipedia. You might want to take a look at zh:维基百科:翻譯指引 and follow the instructions there. When you are finished translating, just add {{Translated|en|Fuertes Observatory}} to the talk page to add the required attribution. If you have any questions about translating cross-wiki, feel free to ask me anytime. Alex Shih^Talk 14:48, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Withdrawing a FAC

Hi! I recently nominated Fawad Khan for FAC but now I want to have it peer reviewed. Can you please tell me how to withdraw a FAC.Amirk94391 (talk) 15:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

• It does not say so in the manual but you probably can just go to Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates and remove it yourself (as long as none has commented on it). I doubt anyone would complain (and if someone does, tell them it is my fault). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:02, 10 October 2017 (UTC)