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Template:Australian Racing Driver

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The result of the debate was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 04:05, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Australian Racing Driver (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No current mainspace transclusions. Duplication of existing infobox coverage, {{infobox racing driver}} in particular. Speedy was declined by author, but I don't believe the rationale given (that the template has a unique scope not covered by existing templates) is correct. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 23:43, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The mainspace transclusions were removed by the above editor immediately prior CSD nomination. No current is perhaps misleading. Additionally it was created from the V8 Supercar driver template as a template which could be used generically across a large number of non-v8 supercar Australian drivers, without the inherent complexity of infobox driver template. --Falcadore (talk) 23:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There was only one mainspace transclusion, and all attributes were directly copied from the template(s) it was forked from. "Australian drivers" is an arbitrary and inappropriate subset to base an infobox on, and "complexity" is not a reason to fork a template (furthermore, I don't think that argument holds weight with the templates in question anyway). Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 00:50, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a direct copy as an attribute was added specifically to aid in making the template more generically useful across several categories rather than the V8 Supercar category that it was forked from. With the deletion of Fujitsu series and Formula Ford driver templates, this template would be ideal to cover those other transclusions rather than the factually incorrect V8 Supercar driver the above edittor has replaced with. The number also increases rapidly with a number of ongoing biographies within the Australian motorsport wiki. --Falcadore (talk) 02:15, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Beyoncé Knowles singles

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The result of the debate was keep --WoohookittyWoohoo! 01:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Beyoncé Knowles singles (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is redundant given the existence of Template:Beyoncé Knowles. It was speedy tag as being redundant but original author removed the tag. Aspects (talk) 23:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it works well on the pages and makes it look alot neater, save.Wneedham02 (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, considering that plenty of other artists have their own templates for singles. It will grow quickly since she just released a new album. Jdot01 (talk) 01:43, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I just felt since other artist use templates separately for singles that Beyoncé could use one as well. Ratizi1 (talk) 02:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed some artists use template separately, just like Britney and Mariah, but they have released over five albums that's why it would be practical to separate the singles. --Efe (talk) 02:47, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But Beyonce has released enough singles to need a separate template. It's not redundant, since they are no longer listed on the Template:Beyoncé Knowles template.Jdot01 (talk) 02:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Spoilers

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The result of the debate was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 04:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Spoilers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not only is the current pic very non-wiki-'professional', in light of prior discussions on this, I'm asking also to consider salting this so as to prevent re-creation before re-creation again. Skier Dude (talk) 23:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: WE used to have a proper (ambox style) spoiler warning and it got deleted since this is a encyclopedia and its meant to document all information and people should know that. Peachey88 (Talk Page | Contribs) 00:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Disambigtalk

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The result of the debate was Delete {{Disambigtalk}}, {{Disambig-talk}} and {{WP DAB}} and Keep {{Dbp}} and {{DBP}}. The shortcuts may be useful.Ruslik (talk) 11:11, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Disambigtalk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Disambig-talk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dbp (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:DBP (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:WP DAB (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, nothing now redirects thru these Skier Dude (talk) 22:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Lived

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The result of the debate was Delete. Ruslik (talk) 12:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Lived (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Now that {{Lifetime}} can be substituted as well, this template is useless. The "b=", "d=", "k=" make it more difficult to be used and it's far less popular than Lifetime. I suggest we delete it. Magioladitis (talk) 21:46, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge -- When the RFD discussion on BD/lifetime is closed, I would suggest that this one be substituted with whatever emerges from the outcome of that debate. I presume your YOBOT will be able to be set up to do this. After doing so, please delete. However, the effort applied by editors in applying this template should not be wasted, by deleting out of hand. This is another unnecessary duplicate of Lifetime. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lived is subst only, so they are not articles transcluding it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I removed it in three cases. The think is -and this holds for the BD as well- that we can first decide that a template can be deleted and then orphaned it. We don't delete only orphan templates. Secondly, in the BD case: Maybe it's heavy linked and some users use it but this doesn't mean it doesn't cause problems. We can decide that we have to orphan it and delete it after some time to give everyone the chance to know that the policy has changed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Asians in the UK

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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(Four more years!) 00:49, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Asians in the UK (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant given the existence of Template:Ethnic groups in the United Kingdom, to which it only adds a (potentially controversial) classification of which groups are considered "Asian" and some unreferenced population estimates. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:51, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:About lists of countries and territories

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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(Four more years!) 01:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:About lists of countries and territories (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Limited participation in the previous TfD; argument to delete still stands. The template serves no role traditionally fulfilled by a header template in an article, it contains explicit self-reference to Wikipedia and the text contained within would be wholly more appropriately inserted in a context-specific form in the articles in question. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 19:04, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - I made an edit to the template today on the basis of a talk page consensus that the list of countries should be redirected to lists of countries (leaving the list of sovereign states as the relevant article here) - rendering the first part of the old template pointless. But it looks like I jumped the gun a bit on that list's FL status. It's not like we're working at a deadline here, so it strikes me that it might be worth holding off deletion until the redirect actually gets done (assuming it gets done) in this case. Pfainuk talk 00:17, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    There's already been a stay of execution on this one. The question is whether this template is currently a positive addition to the articles it is transcluded on. I believe not for a number of reasons. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 00:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, sure. I just feel that it might be easier procedurally if we knew for sure exactly what the consequences of keep/no consensus would be. The status quo will not last for very long. If this template is kept, either the list of countries will become a redirect and the template will become pointless, or (if for some bizarre reason the WP:FLRC overturns the local consensus) my most recent edit to the template will be reverted. Personally, I'd say "strong delete" in the first case (by far the more likely of the two outcomes), and stay neutral in the second. Pfainuk talk 18:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm you make a good point Pfainuk, it might be worth just waiting for the outcome on the future of the List of Countries page just incase they reject the requested removal. BritishWatcher (talk) 18:26, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The FLRC is now over, so I will now confirm that my !vote is strong delete as a pointless template. Pfainuk talk 12:15, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it. Now we have agreement on list of countries and lists of countries this template is redundant. --PBS (talk) 12:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is no discussion at all at Talk:Lists of countries. What agreement do you mean? -- Quiddity (talk) 19:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_countries Agreement was made on this page to remove the list which is now awaiting approval for it to lose its featured list status so it can be deleted and redirect to "lists of countries" page. Once this page is gone there isnt realy a need for the template as there wont be conflicting lists. BritishWatcher (talk) 19:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Delete. This debate has been gone into extensively on the Talk page of the countries list. It was agreed that the Sovereign States list is by far the better list and so having a separate countries list simply confuses people. The agreement that seemed to have consensus on the page was that List of countries be redirected to Lists of Countries where people are able to choose from a collection of lists, including the sovereign states page. The current list offers no use, simply creating more and more debate on the status and definition of “countries”. There is nothing included on this current page which can not be located with ease if it was redirected to Lists of Countries . - People should actually read the comments made on the talk page of the selected article before jumping to conclusions about others. BritishWatcher (talk) 13:11, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Sorry misread what this delete was for, still agree no need for the template as the question of country lists has been sorted out on the list of countries page. BritishWatcher (talk) 13:19, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Rice Residential Colleges

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The result of the debate was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 04:10, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Rice Residential Colleges (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Non-notable individual residential colleges have been merged into a single List of Rice University residential colleges Madcoverboy (talk) 16:36, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:The X Factor (UK)

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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(Four more years!) 01:10, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:The X Factor (UK) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not used in any article anymore. A more detailed template, Template:The X Factor is used instead of this one. An anonymous user brought this up here. Chamal talk 04:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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