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February 25

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sichuan Radio (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Apparently, my nomination of this page for G8 was "ridiculous". Fair enough; maybe G6 would have been better. Still, this template is useless (two redlinks only, and no main article on the topic), and currently unused. — This, that, and the other (talk) 23:59, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Snow Keep and Request Withdrawn. It appears that consensus is favor of enforcing WP:ELNO rather than deleting the the template altogether. Alpha Quadrant talk 19:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Facebook (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Facebook links are neither reliable sources, nor do they hold any encyclopedic value. Also per WP:NOT, Wikipedia is not a facebook directory. Alpha Quadrant talk 22:17, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose – I see where you're coming from. However, I recognize Facebook pages belonging to current, living figures as reliable links, as they add another element to these figures' part on Wikipedia. If this template is deleted, we will have to edit a ton, and I repeat, a ton of pages to accommodate this new policy you're seeking to enact. Also, we'd need to delete the templates for IMDb, Twitter and what-not, which I am strongly opposed to. So, that's my $0.02. DarthBotto talkcont 02:58, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:IRS facebook and twitter are not considered reliable sources. It is discouraged to include links to social networking sites. External links are designed to include additional information on the topic. (for example IMDb} As defined by WP:External links, external links should be "Sites that fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources." Facebook and twitter both fail this requirement. This template can be easily orphaned using Auto Wiki Browser in about two hours time. Alpha Quadrant talk 15:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have made a proposal to add facebook to the spam blacklist [1]. Alpha Quadrant talk 16:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am not proposing the removal of IMDb. IMDb meets the criteria as a valid external link. This current proposal is to removal of only facebook links, which spams about 3/4 of the BLP articles. As facebook has no other use other than to provide contact information there is not really any encyclopedic value. Alpha Quadrant talk 16:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I think you fundamentally misunderstand what Facebook is, Alpha Quadrant. Facebook is used for far more than just contact information, it also functions as a blogging service, image hosting service, announcements, etc. ad nauseam. In many respects a person's Facebook page is their personal website and certainly should be linked to from the article. Ashanda (talk) 20:50, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I do understand that for some people they primary use facebook as their website, however Wikipedia is not a facebook directory. All BLPs with facebook accounts should not have facebook links. Per WP:ELNO #10 facebook links should not be used unless it is the person's official web page. Alpha Quadrant talk 03:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep - Facebook is a top five website, much like Wikipedia or Google. Facebook is not some fad. Plus Facebook has THOUSANDS of Wikipedia related pages on it. There is a ton of Wikipedia information that is used on Facebook so it would make no sense for Wikipedia not to have a Facebook template. The Social Network is poised to possibly win Best Picture at this year's Oscars and this will gel Facebook into the popular culture forever, even moreso than it is now. Strong, strong keep. Keep the Facebook template for Wikipedia.12.196.37.227 (talk) 21:55, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep98.151.53.27 (talk) 03:59, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - official pages on Facebook have become relevant than company web pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattMDK (talkcontribs) 08:37, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep - As long as the facebook page in question is controlled by the subject of the article, (i.e. it is the Official Page of the subject) I think it is perfectly fine to link the page from the article. Besides, thats what is mentioned in External Links. I also agree with everything that has been said above. And, Alpha Quadrant, like you mentioned above in reply to Ashanda, it can be used if it is the Official Page. Halemane (talk) 14:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:59, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Philippine television logos (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless template with no article using it. Also, it duplicates the function of the {{Television in the Philippines}} template. -WayKurat (talk) 12:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:07, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:South Africa Calling Code (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All links redirect to same page. Useless. Unused. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as G7. NAC. — Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 17:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:T^32 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not used. Purpose unclear, but it seems a bit excessive. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:08, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:R from person (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

These templates don't have many transclusions, and are better off redirecting to Template:R from member which covers their purposes. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 03:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete as dependent on a deleted project Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 07:47, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WikiProject The Offspring (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The project has been deleted. There seems to reason to keep this around. Guerillero | My Talk 03:43, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-art-georgia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{PD-art|PD-old-70}} Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-art-life-50-aus (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused template; generally this type of image should be housed on commons anyway; somewhat redundant to {{PD-art|PD-Australia}} Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-art-life-70 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{PD-art|PD-old-70}} Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:08, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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  • keep same as my objection to PD-art-US-1996 below. If you're not sure what template to use, it's a lot easier to find this one than the combination of two (one passed to the other) that the nom proposes. --Selket Talk 07:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:12, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-art-US (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{PD-art|PD-US}}, {{PD-art|PD-USonly}} or a similar variant (e.g., US-1923-abroad, US-URAA) Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:07, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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  • keep same as my objection to PD-art-US-1996 below. If you're not sure what template to use, it's a lot easier to find this one than the combination of two (one passed to the other) that the nom proposes. --Selket Talk 07:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:12, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-art-US-1996 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{PD-art|PD-URAA}} Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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^ keep this one. It's a lot easier to find this in the pd-templates category than to try to find that combination of two templates proposed by the nom. If the argument is just simplicity (as opposed to this template violating some other copyright policy) then I think having this template is simpler than not. --Selket Talk 07:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:20, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:All interwikis same name (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

With all due respect to template creator, I foresee no valuable usage whatsoever for this template, with the possible exception of the main page, which is already taken up by {{Main Page interwikis}} Magog the Ogre (talk) 04:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's for user pages. Rich Farmbrough, 07:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC).[reply]

OK - but how many users have their SUL activated on every project and have blue links for their userpages there? Magog the Ogre (talk) 12:59, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(s/project/language/) Subst it and delete the ones you don't want. Rich Farmbrough, 09:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC).[reply]

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The article 1 might make use of this. So could 2 probably. I can see this as being useful if it's subst'ed, but not for much else. Then again, there's not much potential for misuse, so it's hard to see the harm. --Selket Talk 01:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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