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September 26

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:04, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:All-Ireland Senior Football Champions (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

2001 is a random and not notable year to use . Gnevin (talk) 13:34, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:04, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Rail start (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Same as

   {{s-start}}
   {{s-rail|title=National Rail}}

Not immediately obvious why this is called 'Rail start' but is only for the National Rail, either. — Lfdder (talk) 10:00, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Preceding station National Rail Following station
Chartham   Southeastern
Ashford to Ramsgate
(via Canterbury West) line
  Sturry
Ashford International   Southeastern
High Speed 1
London-Margate
  Ramsgate
Disused railways
Terminus   British Rail
Southern Region

Canterbury and Whitstable Railway
  Whitstable Harbour
Terminus   Southern Railway
Elham Valley Railway
  Canterbury South
Preceding station     National Rail   Following station
Chartham   Southeastern
Ashford to Ramsgate
(via Canterbury West) line
  Sturry
Ashford International   Southeastern
High Speed 1
London-Margate
  Ramsgate
Disused railways
Terminus   British Rail
Southern Region

Canterbury and Whitstable Railway
  Whitstable Harbour
Terminus   Southern Railway
Elham Valley Railway
  Canterbury South
Also, here it is with {{s-rail}} for Disused Railways; you get 'Preceding' and 'Following station' in the header again (which isn't really reason for forking s-rail, I think):
Preceding station     National Rail   Following station
Chartham   Southeastern
Ashford to Ramsgate
(via Canterbury West) line
  Sturry
Ashford International   Southeastern
High Speed 1
London-Margate
  Ramsgate
Preceding station   Disused railways   Following station
Terminus   British Rail
Southern Region

Canterbury and Whitstable Railway
  Whitstable Harbour
Terminus   Southern Railway
Elham Valley Railway
  Canterbury South
Lfdder (talk) 10:55, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • And, for anyone wondering, the only differences are that you get a slightly darker border below the header (could be changed in s-rail) and the font is slightly smaller (like with every other of these boxes). — Lfdder (talk) 11:10, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) OK... I read your {{s-start}} and took it as {{s-rail-start}}, which is often used outside the UK. It's occasionally used inside the UK too, and that certainly shows a difference, such as at Wakefield Kirkgate railway station where the last three rows (from Pontefract Monkhill down) exhibit double-thickness borders. You won't see the effect on all browsers, because browsers differ in how the border-collapse property is interpreted.
This is what {{rail start}} generates:
{| class="wikitable" style="margin: 0.5em auto; text-align: center;"
|-
! Preceding station
! colspan="3" |[[National Rail]]
! Following station
This is what {{s-start}} followed by {{s-rail|title=National Rail}} generates:
{| class="wikitable succession-box" style="margin:0.5em auto; font-size:95%;clear:both;"
|-
! style="vertical-align: middle; width: 30%; border-top: 1px #aaa solid; border-right: 1px #aaa solid; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px; color:inherit; background-color:#f2f2f2; white-space:nowrap"{{!}}'''Preceding station'''
! style="border-left: 0px none; border-right: 0px none; border-bottom: 0px none; border-top: 1px #aaa solid; background-color:#"| 
! style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px #aaa solid; border-left: 0px none; border-right: 0px none; border-bottom: 0px none; background-color:#"|[[National Rail]]
! style="border-left: 0px none; border-right: 0px none; border-bottom: 0px none; border-top: 1px #aaa solid; background-color:#"| 
! style="vertical-align: middle; width: 30%; border-top: 1px #aaa solid; border-left: 1px #aaa solid; border-right: 0px; border-bottom: 0px; color:inherit; background-color:#f2f2f2; white-space:nowrap"{{!}}'''Following station'''
|-
But why take an efficient template, which does the job it's designed for, and replace it with something that is less efficient? Not to mention that {{s-rail}} contains at least two coding errors, plus some redundancy. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:44, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Coding errors and redundancy in s-rail can be fixed. Bottom line is, we don't need two of these templates. s-rail is more encompassing, which is why I'm suggesting we delete this one. — Lfdder (talk) 12:18, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Would additional complexity into article writing. This proposal would mean, when creating a route box, instead of starting
    {{rail start}}
    {{rail line ...}}

You would have to write

   {{s-start}}
   {{s-rail|title=National Rail}}
   {{rail line ...}}

How's a newbie going to get that? Edgepedia (talk) 12:09, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    • This is what they've got to do if they want to make one of these boxes for any other rail network, anyway. How are they gonna get it? I don't know, from reading the instructions? This is isn't any more difficult than infoboxes, say. — Lfdder (talk) 12:18, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • We could create better redirects to help, e.g. rail start could point to s-start and rail network or rail header to s-rail, compare:
   {{rail start}}
   {{rail line ...}}
   {{rail start}}
   {{rail network ...}}
   {{rail line ...}}
Lfdder (talk) 12:21, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:04, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox BoysBrigade (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 08:47, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:04, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Asterix (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 07:43, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete since it is unused, and has been unused for some time. Let me know if you want it restored for development. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:01, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox aspect (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 07:42, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:00, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Artist-run space (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This seems to be a fork of Template:Infobox organization used on two articles, with no specialized parameters. eh bien mon prince (talk) 07:38, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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