Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 August 23

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California wildfires navboxes

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The result of the discussion was merge. (non-admin closure) Alakzi (talk) 12:48, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These templates could easily be merged in a manner similar to {{Bushfires in Australia}}. SounderBruce 21:45, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Template will indefinitely grow. Even if we don't add previous years and just start with 2000, every year a new group of wildfires will be added. Flash forward to 2030 and you have 30 rows in the template. The {{Bushfires in Australia}} is a great template for Australia, but a quick scan of that navbox only shows 2 or 3 fires in the same year. {{2007 California wildfires}} has 9 fires just in one year. Along that thought process Category:Wildfires in Washington (state) has 7 fires list (the 8th page is the list page). I would def support 1 navbox for all 8 of those fires. Different situation there.
  • As hinted at above, this is going to end up being a enormous navbox! Maybe that isn't a big downside, but was one of the reasons I didn't go that route initially.
  • Each season currently has their own category and commons link. Those would likely be lost in favor of the overarching group/commons link. Again this alone is not a reason NOT to merge the templates, but at least worth mentioning.
All that being said, I too support merging them but would like to at least discuss these points. :-) --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE: Merger is completed.... --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:05, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, but that's overly complex. A single, simple navbox would suffice (with one per decade as time progresses). The colours also have inadequate contrast to meet WP:COLOUR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G8 by RHaworth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 12:07, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

failed template with advertising. There is also no article about "Face of Denmark", if it is a pageant at all The Banner talk 20:17, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was merge. (non-admin closure) Alakzi (talk) 12:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unused fork of {{Teahouse invitation}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:18, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Alakzi (talk) 18:15, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

While I understand this template is in honor of WP:IPHUMAN, this is sort-of redundant to {{welcome-anon-constructive}} and even if it wasn't, it would still be unnecessary, because a simple thanks by clicking the "thank" button in the diff is all that's needed. TL22 (talk) 16:16, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. As the creator of this template several years ago, I have used it countless times to thank IP editors for helping in our efforts against vandalism. It is not a welcome template, and so is not the same as the Welcome-anon-constructive template and can be used even on IP talk pages of editors who have already been welcomed. Also, I've never seen a "thank" button on IP diffs, but only on diffs of registered users, so am I missing something? – Painius  16:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete redundant to {{welcome-anon-constructive}} (and to {{Thank You}}, or indeed simple text), as used by Twinkle, and which can be used more than once as edits made using IP addresses may be by different people. This template has a mere seven talk-page transclusions, all but one of which either have either no welcome template, or had it used before a welcome template was added. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:04, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just to be clear, this template should be substituted, not transcluded, so the vast majority of its usages will not appear on the What links here page. Also, I often place this template at the TOP, before the Welcome template I use with it, so the IP will see it first. – Painius  23:46, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete, with apologies to Paine. (non-admin closure) Alakzi (talk) 18:24, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is the English Wikipedia, and as such messages here must be written in English, no matter what (see {{uw-english}}). This template violates that. It's redundant to {{Thank you}} anyways. TL22 (talk) 15:56, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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'Portal selected' templates

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The result of the discussion was deleteAlakzi (talk) 10:41, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Archaic templates of trivial points of history. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:48, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this are no longer used in the way they where before....we have a generic one that works just fine. -- Moxy (talk) 14:31, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form nomination templates

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The result of the discussion was relisted at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 September 3#Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form nomination templatesAlakzi (talk) 19:28, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only Hugo Award category to have these separate nomination templates. The winner already has the Template:Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) template. No need for an extra one. charge2charge (talk) 23:03, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • tentative Keep, I personally liked the only one I've looked at, 2011, and quickly used it to make an addition to another template (have never heard of the video Fuck Me, Ray Bradbury, watched it, and it seems template-worthy and a nice tribute). Maybe the only question is "should nominees be included on a major award template", or do other major awards have yearly nominee listings on any of their templates. I'm not familiar enough with them to know. Randy Kryn 20:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, only need to link between winners, not nominees. imagine if we had this for the academy awards ... total navbox cruft. if you want to find out the nominees, try [gasp] to read the article? Frietjes (talk) 16:27, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Women's soccer templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Alakzi (talk) 19:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These are the only two women's soccer tournaments that have separate templates listing every team that participated. No reason to keep them. charge2charge (talk) 23:32, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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