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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 14. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:32, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete WP:CSD#G2 Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:41, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

unused Frietjes (talk) 15:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete WP:CSD#G2 Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:42, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

not notable Frietjes (talk) 15:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 14. Primefac (talk) 13:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 13:14, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, no documentation. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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08:19, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 14. Primefac (talk) 13:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:15, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Use {{Globalize|2=North Korea}}. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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08:18, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:15, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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08:17, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 13:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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08:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 13:18, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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08:14, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:15, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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08:11, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 14. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:35, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Uw-vandalism4. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:35, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Only ever substituted three times. Overly specific policy violation; could be redirected to {{uw-vandalism4}}. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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10:24, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 13:23, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Only 4 transclusions. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:15, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to {{ConvertAbbrev/ISO 3166-2/US}}. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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10:13, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose: Is Jc86035 personally ready to manually convert the more than 150 entries that use this template? What does the other template "buy" us to be worth the effort that if he wants it deleted, he should make? When Jc86035 has gone to every single place that uses this template and converted all of them to the "preferred" one, then I have no objection. But I must strongly object to anything that could break other pages or templates. He wants to drop this template, he needs to edit everything else that uses it, first. Then he can argue it's superfluous. Besides, this one might be easier to use or provide a better feature set than the one with which he wants to replace it. Until it is proven superfluous because its use has been replaced by the person objecting - he wants it removed, he needs to repair all the places it's used - I say "no, no, a thousand times no!" Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) (talk) 16:16, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. It looks like the main use is in the jct templates, so I will move it to a subpage of that template for now (which also matches Module:Jct/statename). It doesn't look like 'ISO 3166-2/US' is a drop-in replacement in all cases since this template also provides names of Canadian provinces. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:26, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to {{ConvertAbbrev/ISO 3166-2/US}}. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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10:13, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose—no need to combine everything, and frankly the other name is non-intuitive. Imzadi 1979  10:16, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Unless Jc86035 states that he's willing to convert ALL of the other pages that use this template - and I stopped when the count was more than 5,000 - I oppose for the simple fact we have no business breaking all those pages for no benefit. Why take on all this extra work? When (s)he is ready to promise to manually convert, and then has manually converted, in excess of five thousand pages, then come back and argue it's unnecessary. Again I say no, because this is another case where he never even bothered to check the 'what links here' page and see how many pages would be broken by his proposal. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) (talk) 16:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • delete, assuming there are no problems with replacement. this is a bad name for a template, since (1) it includes Canadian provinces, and (2) there are countries other than the United States with states. Frietjes (talk) 15:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as badly named, and in the interest of standardization. AWB is a wonderful thing. —swpbT 12:54, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, swpb and Frietjes: the template is redundant and has a bad name as there are countries other than the United States with states. All transclusions and links in documentation can be replaced easily. Luis150902 (talk | contribs) 14:11, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:21, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Only used in other templates' documentation. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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09:58, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose for the very reason you want to remove it: it's a documentation page and we desperately need documentation of templates. Now, again, if you want to rename it to a documentation-type name, and fix all the other pages that reference it, fine. Having done that, then come back and report it's orphaned. Otherwise, no. You want it removed, fix all the other pages using it first. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) (talk) 16:29, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • What I meant was that it isn't used for anything except as a demonstration on other templates. I'm not proposing to delete other templates' documentation pages. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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      17:40, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • in addition, FIPS was deprecated in 2008 and abandoned in 2014, so this template serves no purpose. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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      04:44, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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