Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2012 August 20

Welcome to the WikiProject Articles for creation Help Desk Archives
The page you are currently viewing is an archive page. While you can leave answers for any questions shown below, please ask new questions on one of the current Help Desk pages.

August 20

Submitting

I am trying to submit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/LGBT_Social

But it not be accepted can anyone please tell me why?

Gforce1234 (talk) 08:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

It's not accepted because it doesn't cite any reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as newspaper articles. Significant coverage in such sources is necessary to establish the topic's notability. There are also tone issues; the draft is unduly laudatory and at one point speaks of LGBT social members as "our members". That's probably a quote from the CEO, but currently it's not marked as such. As an aside, their website is blacklisted; if we can find enough secondary sources to establish notability, we'll have to request it to be whitelisted for this article. Huon (talk) 14:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

WT:Articles for creation/Bishop Glacier

As you may know, I have submitted an article for creation, which happens to be Bishop Glacier. I know several other landforms/glaciers on Alexander Island that have not yet been published onto Wikipedia and I am willing to publish these articles, such as Frachat Glacier, Liadov Glacier and Rachmaninoff Glacier. However, I need to know weather these articles are okay to be published onto an online encyclopedia because as I know of course, these landforms are extremely isolated and considered unimportant in geography, to be honest, the vast majority of the worldwide population simply does not care about such an enigmatic or unknown place in the world, but these places do in fact exist and I know this for sure (mainly because Lincoln Ellsworth would have most likely sighted these areas in the 1930s when he flew over the island himself). If you are not keen on the idea of submitting these articles, then I need to know, because then I do not have to waste my time creating articles that are going to be instantaneously removed from this website and/or are not worth publishing at all. Thank you. Please write back soon. Solo Toady (talk) 08:46, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

The relevant inclusion criterion is the general notability guide: If the topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources, it's presumed to be notable enough for an article of its own. For geographical features such as glaciers the "significant coverage" bar is rather low, but I'm not sure whether the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency summary on its own would suffice. I'd expect that a second source would suffice to clearly establish notability. Huon (talk) 14:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Review of User:Gabe.smith/Animal Management in Rural and Remote Indigenous Communities

Hi I would like some advice on how to improve my references for this article User:Gabe.smith/Animal Management in Rural and Remote Indigenous Communities and any other ways that I can improve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabe.smith (talk • contribs) 11:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC) I think I have made some mistakes with moving my article, i had a submission declined as it said there it was a duplicate article, I dont actually know how I made a duplicate and would like to delete one of them.

Thanks for your help my questions are very newbie Gabe.smith (talk) 11:45, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

The references should allow the readers to verify the article text. Right now you have "notes" which, for all I can tell without looking up the papers, don't discuss AMRRIC in detail but deal with the issues. And you have "external links" which talk about AMRRIC in some detail, but which unlike the notes you don't cite inline via footnotes. They may serve to back up the AMRRIC-specific article content, but without inline citations, that's hard to tell. For example, the "activities" section does not cite any sources at all. (the first sentence is almost literally taken from AMRRIC's 2011 report, so much so that it even speaks of "our stakeholders" - that raises issues of copyright).

My suggestions would be:

• Merge the notes and external links sections into a single "References" section.
• Use footnotes to clarify what source supports which part of the article.
• Make sure that the article text isn't so close to the sources that it becomes a copyright violation, and that we use secondary sources in preference to those associated with AMRRIC.

The duplicate draft seems to have been deleted; that issue apparently is resolved. Huon (talk) 14:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Submitting an Article

Hello, I have been trying to create an article for my fraternity and have followed the format that I had but for some reason it is getting denied. Can you help me specifically understand why?

Thank you,

Keyimani Delta Psi Chi Fraternity, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DPC1985 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

The draft was declined because it doesn't show the fraternity's notability. We require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. But many of your references are primary sources such as Delta Psi Chi websites or those of associated organizations, and the others like Clarksville Online provide only trivial coverage. You should also use inline citations and footnotes to clarify which source supports which of the article's statements.

My suggestion would be to look for newspaper articles about the fraternity (not just articles which mention the fraternity in passing). You might also want to have a look at out guideline on conflicts of interest; writing about your own fraternity might be such a conflict. Huon (talk) 14:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

RFO Basic

Apparently an article I wrote titled "RFO BASIC" was moved here. I cannot find it. Can you please advise me where I might find it? Thanks CharliewortonCharlieworton (talk) 18:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You can find it here - Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/RFO_Basic John F. Lewis (talk) 18:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Edward Francis Anhalt

Looking for assistance on creating first Wikipedia pageWikipedia talk:Articles for creation/dreduardoa Ed (99.63.169.2 (talk) 18:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC))

What kind of assistance do you need? The draft was declined because those of the references provided that the reviewer checked did not actually confirm the draft's text. Wikipedia content must be verifiable from reliable sources; just adding a "reference" that says something else and does not confirm what it's cited for is not acceptable.

You might also want to have a look at Help:Link; your external links mostly do not conform to the necessary format, and you don't have any links to other Wikipedia pages.

There are several other issues; some of the references provided are primary sources (such as Anhalt's dissertation) or not reliable (such as the YouTube video). And the article does a rather poor job at showing what Anhalt's claim to notability is. The very first sentence should clarify why we might be interested in him. Huon (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Creating Wiki Page

I wish to create a page for a footballer who is a friend. I am struggling as to how to create the page. How do I do this? I have a word doc you all the information on and can copy this into the body of the wiki page and include references etc.

Many thanks

Simon

Draft is mostfan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mostfan (talk • contribs) 18:55, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Follow the Wizard at WP:WIZ and it will guide you through all you need to submit an article to AfC. John F. Lewis (talk) 19:24, 20 August 2012 (UTC)