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where is marva whitney's photo locate at 2013 grammy award show?

where is marva whitney photo memoriam gallary located at the 2013 grammy awards show?

This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what the Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Huon (talk) 00:37, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Clan Buchanan Heraldry

I have just had an article rejected by Dodger67 but I don't understand the problem. How do I fix what I don't understand? Scabd buchanan (talk) 00:47, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that the draft doesn't summarize what experts have published about Clan Buchanan heraldry in reliable sources such as peer-reviewed academic journals, but instead is largely original research, partly based on someone's personal website (not a reliable source), with the more reliable sources cited only for general background information that's rather off-topic for an article on Clan Buchanan heraldry. To point out just one obvious example: An encyclopedia article should not be a how-to guide to obtaining arms, nor should it express an opinion of its own whether obtaining a coat of arms is desirable. Huon (talk) 02:44, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, you can start the clean-up by deleting the "Background" and "Obtaining a Scottish coat of arms" sections. They are completely irrelevant, stick to the specific topic only - a history and description of Buchanan heraldry. Other articles already cover heraldry in general and Scottish heraldry. You might be able to get more expert help from the folks at WT:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology who have specific knowledge and experience of writing Wikipedia articles about heraldry. Roger (talk) 11:07, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Mark Joseph "MJ" Besmonte

[Draft removed.] Markjoseph17 (talk) 05:10, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process, not for drafts. You should write the draft either in your sandbox or at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mark Joseph "MJ" Besmonte, the preferred location for drafts awaiting review. But unless you can show that Besmonte has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources such as newspapers or reputable music magazines, we cannot the draft; see also WP:MUSIC for the relevant notability guideline. You may also want to read our guideline on conflicts of interest; writing an autobiography is strongly discouraged. Huon (talk) 06:41, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sport

[Draft removed.]

The main problem with your draft is that we already have an article on sport and don't need another. Besides, it doesn't cite any sources. Huon (talk) 15:51, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Help - how to resubmit my article

Hi, I'm struggling to find how I can resubmit my article. I have made some amendments as requested. Grateful if you could please point me in the right direction. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ahmed_Hossain Many thanks Tarique21 (talk) 11:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Your draft was accepted back on March 3 and is now a live article at Ahmed Hossain. There's no need to re-submit it. Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia! Huon (talk) 15:51, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Article about edit war

Dear editors: I came across this page: User:Jjdee/sandbox which is a page about edit warring. There's a page already about this under Wikipedia:Edit warring that pertains specifically about Wikipedia, but no page about the concept in general. I'm not sure if this is a serious page or whether the author is trying to draw attention to a specific edit war. Should Wikipedia have a page on this subject? —Anne Delong (talk) 11:35, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

It looks like a good faith attempt to write a guideline about edit warring, but we already have such a page at WP:EDITWAR so it should be declined and deleted. Roger (talk) 12:05, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

If I decline this article, should I make a redirect from Edit war to Wikipedia:Edit warring? It seems to me that that article is specifically about Wikipedia, and isn't intended to be a general article for the encyclopedia. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Probably not. Kilopi (talk) 13:46, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Calling All Dawns

Dear editors:

Is this page Talk:Calling All Dawns in the wrong place? Google is picking it up.

—Anne Delong (talk) 11:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't see a problem, it's the Talk page of the article Calling All Dawns. Roger (talk) 12:01, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Google does sometimes index pages it shouldn't. I believe that's a known problem (though I'm too lazy to dig up the bug report) we can do little about. Huon (talk) 15:51, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Christian Seidel

Hello, after previous conversation I made some changes to the draft Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Christian Seidel. Here is the last correspondence:

...Thank you again. I added the footnotes and references and hope the article fits the conditions for release. Please let me know if there is still something missing.CTC2 (talk) 14:33, 14 March 2013 (UTC) Is there anything else that I have to do so that the article can be submitted? I see it is still waiting for submission... Please let me know. Thanks!CTC2 (talk) 15:40, 18 March 2013 (UTC) ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

To be honest, the draft's references are something of a mess. A press release is not a reliable source. I'd expect at least some of the sources should be available online, but you have provided no links, making verification unnecessarily difficult. I believe you translated some articles' titles from German into English, which makes identification vastly more difficult and thus isn't helpful - I couldn't find any trace of the dpa reports about Seidel, and I'd expect the 2011 one to still be available via Google News. Then there's the list of references that aren't footnotes - are those actually used? What for? Or are they just a "further reading" list? Both the reviewer and later the readers will appreciate it if you make finding the sources a little easier. Furthermore, I doubt all those sources are really all that relevant to Seidel. For example, you cite a half-dozen sources on the Diana biography that predate the Seidel-produced TV movie. They probably won't provide any relevant information on Seidel. That said, you should submit the draft for review; the old "submission declined" message box has instructions for re-submission. Despite all those problems, Seidel appears to satisfy the notability criteria, and while I wouldn't be comfortable accepting a draft whose sources I mostly couldn't even find, once that's fixed, the draft should be up for a review. Since we're rather backlogged at the moment, my suggestion would be to first submit it and then clean up the references - it will probably take a week or two until a reviewer takes a look. Huon (talk) 03:26, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I cleaned all the foreign footnotes, but the problem really is that the article is mainly based on these resources. How does Wikipedia deal with the use of foreign resources? Should I mention them? Are the resources given now enough? Can I resubmit the the draft anyway? CTC2 (talk) 20:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

This seems to have gotten worse. Before, it had references that I couldn't find. Now it doesn't have those references at all. Firstly, foreign-language sources are acceptable; see WP:NONENG for details. Secondly, if the sources really aren't available online, offline sources are also acceptable - however, as I said I would expect 2011 dpa reports to be available online somewhere. You can resubmit the draft, but right now there are too few sources left to establish Seidel's notability. Neither of the remaining sources covers Seidel in any appreciable detail, and they don't serve to verify much of the draft's content. Huon (talk) 00:07, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Afc submission template

Dear Editors: Here are two articles Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/International Institute of Forecasters and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/International Institute of Forecasters (2) by the same user. The first has only one edit and has no data not in the other one. I tried to decline the first one as a duplicate, but I received the following message: Unable to locate AFC submission template, aborting... —Anne Delong (talk) 21:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

The first one isn't submitted for review, so there's nothing to decline. I'll speedy it as uncontroversial housekeeping. Huon (talk) 23:42, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again. I'll know what it means next time I see that message.

George Young (surgeon) - how to disambiguate?

Hi

I've submitted an article called Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/George Young I have the message that there are other articles with this title and would like to change the title to 'George Young (surgeon)'. How can I do this? Papamac (talk) 22:03, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

When or if the article is accepted, the review will (or should) move it to a suitable name. Your suggested one seems best. So, you don't need to do anything more in that regard. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:14, 29 March 2013 (UTC)