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Snehahurrain (talk) 02:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For the last few days I am working on a Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Farman_Nawaz It was declined twice. The fact is that I have prepared this page keeping in few another Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansar_Abbasi. You will not believe but it is a fact that the references of Ansar Abasi page are irrelevant. It is requested that kindly check the comments of admins on my page and then apply the same rules on Ansar abbasi page. you will find that my page is more authentic than Ansar Abassi page. It is not a challenge but a request for comparison. I hope that my request will be taken as positive. I have brought major changes in my page and again it is resubmitted.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snehahurrain (talk • contribs) 02:42, 10 March 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

@Snehahurrain: We're not concerned with whether a page is "authentic", we're concerned with whether the subject meets Wikipedia's definition of notability. You need so show that there is significant coverage of Farman Nawaz himself, not just coverage of his blog posts and op-eds, and you need to back up all biographical data with citations to reliable sources. --Ahecht (TALK
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Request on 02:55:42, 10 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Takingnotes21

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for school I am a college student.


Takingnotes21 (talk) 02:55, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Takingnotes21: What is your question exactly? You submitted an article that just said "I go to school so I need drop box" and it was rejected for inclusion in Wikipedia because it was clearly not an encyclopedia article. If you want a draft space to work in, you can use User:Takingnotes21/sandbox, but don't click the blue "submit for review" button unless you have an actual article that you want to submit. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

08:17:37, 10 March 2015 review of submission by MarkfromPoole

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This is my first contribution to Wikipedia. My article has been rejected several times for reliability reasons. In conversation with one reviewer, Graeme Bartlett, he said that the sources were ok from a verification perspective but not a notability one. I have added links to other Wikipedia pages that refer to Poole People to establish justification for listing. I do not really know where to go now. MarkfromPoole (talk) 08:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC) MarkfromPoole (talk) 08:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MarkfromPoole: I only see one independent source in that article. You typically need several examples of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article to show notability (and Wikipedia articles aren't considered "reliable sources" since anyone can edit them). If there are good sources in the other Wikipedia pages you could add those to your article, but if not and no other good sources exist, it may simply be too soon for a Poole People article. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 11:02:45, 10 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by MJeznach

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Hi, I wanted to create a page on Wikipedia about Oxford Biodynamics. It is not meant to be advertising, but a source of information about the Company type of page. I'm not sure where I went wrong as it is my first ever attempt of creating a Wiki page. I would really appreciate your help.

MJeznach (talk) 11:02, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MJeznach: Your article was directly copied and pasted from the Oxford Biodynamics website. For copyright reasons, Wikipedia requires that you write articles using your own words. Do not copy and paste (or closely paraphrase) any other website.
I can't see your article since it was deleted, but if you rewrite it keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a business directory. If there isn't significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article that you can cite, then it may be too soon for a Wikipedia article about Oxford Biodynamics. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 11:12:57, 10 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by ZRay22

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Hi there :)

My submission Conscience: Taxes for Peace not War was rejected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Conscience:_Taxes_for_Peace_not_War

Previous users Tokyogirl79 and Kikichugirl had similar concerns and I thought I dealt with her concerns (the Recent Activity section).

Could you please point out exactly, which parts of the article need to be changed to be accepted? :)

Your help would be much appreciated :)

Thank you

ZRay22 (talk) 11:12, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ZRay22 (talk) 11:12, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In its current state the Draft doesn't look very problematic to me. A few points though. "managed to successfully gain" just means "gained". The second mention of the award from Gordon Brown needs removing, as it makes little sense in the context, is repetitive, and isn't supported by the citation that follows it.
The section "Conflict Stability and Security Fund" is far too long, given that it's not directly related to the organisation and does not mention it.
The section "Peace Tax Bill" seems mostly to repeat things already discussed earlier. Expressing the aims and beliefs of the group in excessive detail and in a rather repetitive way, gives an appearance of being non-neutral. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 07:49, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

11:34:54, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Bihngo

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Bihngo (talk) 11:34, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why my Article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kundan_Srivastava has been declined many times. I written about Kundan Srivastava an Indian Author and Activist. I am feeling very sad to know wikipedia behavior against article of Kundan Srivastava. Kundan is youngest Social Activist and notable Author from India. Please go through his official facebook page and details: https://www.facebook.com/founderkundansrivastava

To see why the Draft has been declined, read the reasons given in the pink boxes on the Draft page itself. Click on the links in the decline reasons to read further information. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 07:39, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

13:54:02, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Philoschelle

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I would like to request assistance in creating my page in a way that is considered neutral to the editors of Wikipedia. I have edited it many times, submitting twice. Both times it has been rejected for being advertising. As this is my first submission, I need help! Are there reviewers or editors out there that could help me get this article published? Thanks.Philoschelle (talk) 13:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC) Philoschelle (talk) 13:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the lead alone, the phrases "a wide range of" and "enable business document exchange via" are unnecessary and promotional. You then have an extensive list of "solutions". That word is unduly promotional in itself, because it doesn't mean anything. A products and services list gives the appearance of being promotional because it's just listing out what the company sells. Which you've already done in the lead anyway. Plus that list is sourced entirely to the company's own website and to a Yahoo profile that the company itself will have contributed to.
The list of board members is unnecessary in an encyclopedia article. Most of the management team don't need mentioning either.
There are a very large number of press releases used as references. This should be avoided where possible.
Take a look at a few existing recognised Wikipedia Good Articles about businesses from the list at Wikipedia:Good articles/Social sciences and society#Businesses & organizations. A Draft wouldn't need to be as long or detailed as these to be accepted, but they can still be good examples of how to structure and reference it. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 07:35, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

18:30:40, 10 March 2015 review of submission by DmitryPopovRU

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Hello! I really need someones help with this article. It was recently declined due to lack of notability. I do not believe this is true, have a look at the reliable sources. I need someones help with this! I also have a G4 issue I have to deal with too.

Thank You! --DmitryPopovRU (talk) 18:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DmitryPopovRU (talk) 18:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, DmitryPopovRU. I took a look at your draft and I removed a few references that were to unreliable sources such as Youtube and IMDb. The first thing to do is to remove some of the references to libraries that hold the book. According to Worldcat, the book is in ten libraries, plus the two archival copies in the National library. One reference, such as THIS ONE, tells all of this, and separate references for each copy of the book just makes it seem as though there are no real useful references available. Published book reviews are what's needed to show that he's a notable author. Announcements of upcoming events don't confer notability - instead, news reports after the event are needed. —Anne Delong (talk) 22:21, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks heaps for your help and response. A clear source can be found here which talks about his book - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11310534 I will work on developing the article and see when it can be submitted again. Like I have said before, I think it is worded incorrectly. I'm not sure.

--DmitryPopovRU (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:02:58, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Takingnotes21

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Takingnotes21 (talk) 20:02, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the message I've left on your draft. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 20:18, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:09:00, 10 March 2015 review of submission by MadameAnglaise

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Hi - this is a general question. A page has been declined and I can now see why as I had pasted copy (and cited it and thought that would be okay) from a webpage. I'm very happy to re-edit this to ensure it's acceptable... but where will my draft have been moved to? I do have a copy of it saved, but is there an area where I will find it to make the edit? Sorry - quite a simple question and hopefully a simple answer! Thanks, Clare

MadameAnglaise (talk) 20:09, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor MadameAnglaise: Your draft is at User:MadameAnglaise/sandbox. You can find a list of pages you've edited by clicking the "Contributions" link in the upper-right corner. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 20:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23:16:10, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Reefswaggie

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Reefswaggie (talk) 23:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23:16:10, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Reefswaggie

Draft:R.T. Skip Wallen


I hope I have done this correctly... anyway, I have hacked and cut and reduced the article in order to make it less encyclopedic ... I think I am heading in the right direction but I need some feedback please because it is my first article. I think the first paragraph is ok the way it is. I added two new headings, and simplified a lot of the material. I haven't fixed up the references yet. I want to get the text right first.

Thanks for your help. Reefswaggie (talk) 23:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The text seems to be headed in the right direction. I assume you mean more encyclopedic, not less? Ideally, you still need to add the titles, and preferably author names, for the newspaper articles. Also, material like "www.AlaskaWhaleProject.org" is not any use as a reference on its own. Such website links might be more appropriate in an External Links section if they're actually necessary. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 07:25, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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