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05:52:57, 25 November 2015 review of submission by Sunil~mlwiki

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What do you want more? Kathakali is an art in the state of KErala, India. Kathakali is world famous and Kalamandalam Gangadharan is a famous musician. His students are also famous and they are already there in the english wikipedia. The master is not in english wiki !! Kathakali dont have any grammy award :(

Shall write more reference based from some printed books

@Sunil~mlwiki: Hi, thanks for stopping by the Help Desk. Articles about musicians generally need high-quality, in-depth coverage from reliable sources that are independent of the subject. That is currently one of the referencing issues with the draft. The "keralasangeethanatakaakademi.com" source appears to be a dead link, so we can't follow it. I'm not sure that the kathakali.info website is a reliable source, given that I can't determine whether they have an editorial board or policy; rather, it seems more like a blog. The YouTube and Facebook links don't show notability because they are primary sources that are closely connected to the subject—meaning those sites are not independent of the subject. And the m3db site looks like it doesn't offers in-depth coverage of Kathakali.
You mentioned that Kathakali has been discussed in printed books? Those sources would be a good place to start! You can also use sources in languages other than English, provided they're reliable and independent of Kathakali, naturally. Thanks, /wia /tlk 06:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have printed books in english and or Malayalam (ML), the languange of Kerala. Do you need a photo of the particular page? Or how do u verify it?

Remember, It is not english movie or western music. I dont think that your guidelines like grammy or national music chart will help me here in my country :) I have some more links that are not added yet to the article. Please check those and let me know: http://www.aswadanam.com/index.php/en/arts/82-kathakali/200-2015-05-05-13-16-31

http://www.bharatchannels.com/news/malayalam/story.php?id=1026090

http://theatrefutures.org.uk/kathakali/collection-overview/b-kathakali-plays/ David Bolland film collection has many videos as Kalamandalam Gangadharan as main singer.


This is his photo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Kalamandalam_gangadharan.jpg

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunil~mlwiki (talk • contribs) 06:29, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

06:24:48, 25 November 2015 review of submission by Jamiegerus

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hi there,

I am looking for support in understanding what I can do my draft article in order to have it approved for publication. My references include bloomberg, distinguished universities and a nonprofit organization among others. Would love direction on how to edit the article for approval.

Thank you!

Jamiegerus (talk) 06:24, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jamiegerus - albeit brief, LaMona's message on your draft space was quite comprehensive. The current references all fall into one of the categories they mention that you "should not use: his own company; organizations he belongs to or works with; directory listings; articles that are not expressly about him". Bloomberg are directory listings, articles from companies he's founded don't talk about him, the u of Alberta is from an organization he works with. LaMona also points you in the direction of the types of references you should be looking for: "You should use: newspaper and magazine articles ABOUT the subject of your WP article". I would add that you can also use books to show notability. Some of the references you use are okay for verifiability (proving an assertion made in the article), but none are good for showing notability. But several of the articles don't mention the subject at all and should be removed. Also, please take a look at WP:CIT on how to correctly format citations. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

09:34:48, 25 November 2015 review of submission by Sid De La Cruz

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The entry that I wrote was declined because there wasn't enough references. Can you please be specific on what parts need a reference, that way I can provide them. Thank youSid De La Cruz (talk) 09:34, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sid De La Cruz (talk) 09:34, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I responded to this editor on my talk page, who left virtually simultaneous questions there and here. Onel5969 TT me 12:48, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

13:54:48, 25 November 2015 review of submission by 213.86.222.250

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I am requesting a review having had my article on PLP Architecture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:PLP_Architecture) refused three times by SwisterTwister. The article supposedly does not contain enough in-depth third party sources to justify the company's notability, but in comparison with other architecture firms, there are quite a few. The references are also from a variety of sources, including journals, news sources, websites and the websites of professional bodies. I feel that it would be very helpful if someone who is knowledgeable about architecture and has written on the topic would review the page to determine whether the company is notable, as SwisterTwister does not appear to have created any pages on related topics. One can imagine that what makes one kind of company notable (say an architecture firm) would be significantly different than what would make another company (say an manufacturing firm) notable. It would help to have further clarification on sourcing, as I feel that relative to the topic, the sourcing I have included is already quite extensive.

  Accepted but please now see WP:COI.
Please do not offer criticism of other Wikipedia editors. Your request has borne fruit. You are, however, editing from PLP Architecture's IP address range and are here to promote your organisation (0.9 probability). I accepted the draft because it is, just, good enough. I know nothing about architecture either, except it keeps the rain out of my home. Fiddle Faddle 14:11, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 20:27:05, 25 November 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Nomsu

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Please I need help on additional information or editing of my submitted draft article titled "Southwest University" as the article has not been accepted into the Wikipedia pages because it lacks notability.The university is a U.S nationally accredited university.The university is listed among the approved institutions by Louisiana Board of Regents.It is also listed as an accredited on-line university by the Distance Education Accrediting Commission (DEAC). DEAC is an approved accreditation agency by the U.S Department of Education and is a member of the Council of Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA).There are articles in Wikipedia pages on similar institutions that are nationally accredited in U.S; for example 'California Intercontinental University'.NomsuNomsu (talk) 20:27, 25 November 2015 (UTC) Nomsu (talk) 20:27, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Nomsu:. Have you read The Golden Rule? Can you explain it to me in your own words and then show which sources in the article you think satisfy the requirements of The Golden Rule? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:30, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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