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04:43:48, 14 September 2019 review of draft by Mercer5089

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What other sources do you require? This is an article listing the highways of Iron County and is sourced by a map provided by the Wisconsin Department of Transportation. It is consistent with sources in other articles that list highways. Mercer5089 (talk) 04:43, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mercer5089. There is no consensus among the editors who have been involved with the draft. Arguing that the sourcing is consistent with other lists of county roads may be true, but WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS cuts both ways. It could mean that the other lists should be deleted too if their sourcing can't be improved. The best place to ask for advice about sourcing would be Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads.
If you can't get help there, then you have a final option. This page was moved to draft by Imzadi1979. According to WP:DRAFTIFY, you "have a right to object to moving the page, and to have the matter discussed at WP:AfD." That's the ultimate appeal. The policy tells the patroller, "If an editor raises an objection, move the page back to mainspace and list at AfD." There it would receive a fuller discussion of whether the topic meets WP:LISTN, whether the sources are reliable and independent, and whether the content is verifiable or original research. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:58, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Worldbruce for your explanation, since many editors don't seem to engage in explanatory dialogue. Your explanation helps me understand why two other similar articles were moved to Draft after I created the Ashland County list page. Mercer5089 (talk) 04:12, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, Worldbruce, for the multiple messages here - I've looked over the linked AfD and DRAFTIFY pages and I'm unsure of how to proceed. It seems like leaving it in Draft form causes the page to languish until deleted, but that putting it on AfD is something the editors should do themselves. If I'd like to put it to AfD, would they only consider the issue with independent and reliable sources, or would it open the whole concept of county-level highway lists to scrutiny? Lastly, what's the best way for me to put the page into the AfD process - do I add a tag to the body of the article? Thank you again for your explanation earlier, it's very much appreciated. Mercer5089 (talk) 04:19, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Your assessment that draft space is where potential articles go to die is often correct. That's why it's important to reach out to Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads for advice. Imzadi1979 is an active member there. Due consideration should be given to the fact that they didn't feel the list would survive AfD, yet they felt it had potential (as evidenced by them draftifing it instead of nominating it for deletion).
AfD should be a last resort. The mechanics of going there are simple. All you would have to do is leave a note on Imzadi1979's talk page to the effect that you object to the draftification. That would oblige them to return the list to article space and either leave it there or (most likely under the circumstances) nominate it for deletion. Deletion discussions are supposed to stay on topic, but there's no guarantee that someone won't bring up other county-level highway lists, or nominate them for deletion. --Worldbruce (talk) 07:04, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

06:11:27, 14 September 2019 review of draft by Captsungam

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Captsungam (talk) 06:11, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

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09:01:25, 14 September 2019 review of submission by Mdmisri

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Mdmisri (talk) 09:01, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


11:51:55, 14 September 2019 review of submission by Smehra2801

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Smehra2801 (talk) 11:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Smehra2801:, it was rejected for repeated failures to show notability - the sources are either not reliable, not sufficiently or in depth or not independent (which usually includes ruling out interviews, which is particularly applicable here).
It is also a very advertorial piece "hey also promise to provide the best bridal makeup,", "extrodinary skills"
Unless there are better sources than just editing it to fix the second problem won't be enough. It may just not (yet, at least) be suitable as an article. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:29, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14:57:36, 14 September 2019 review of draft by LT sfm

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Hello, I'm an autoconfirmed and kind of skilled user from Japanese Wikipedia. I mistakenly accessed to AfC process but wish for faster review if possible, since I assume my draft meets a standard for publishing sufficiently. I acknowledge as well it may include some grammatical mistakes or run foul of WP:NEO. Thank you. -- LT sfm (talk) 14:57, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LT sfm. If you have no conflict of interest with the topic, then as an autoconfirmed user, AfC is an optional process for you, and you may write directly at Fictosexuality. If you do so, it will be patrolled by NPP (within 90 days, I believe). If they deem it a neologism they may move it to draft or nominate it for deletion. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:00, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Worldbruce: Thanks for your immediate response. Before or after I write it on article namespace, should I delete the draft in accordance with the WP:MFD process? --LT sfm (talk) 16:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@LT sfm: You may request speedy deletion of the draft by blanking it or by replacing the {{AFC submission}} template with {{db-g7}}. (In this situation you may ignore the comment cautioning "do not remove this line".) --Worldbruce (talk) 16:54, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Worldbruce: I understand. Thank you. --LT sfm (talk) 17:03, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

16:01:34, 14 September 2019 review of submission by Bpurkaple

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Hello. I submitted an article and it was denied due to being creative non-fiction. After re-reading the article, I understand why it may have been misconstrued in such a way and have edited to make it clearer for what it is: an article defining a movement in healthcare called Goal Oriented Care, seeking to describe clearly and succinctly its basic tenets and guidelines. Utilizing citations from medical literature, my resubmitted article defines what Goal Oriented Health Care is and outlines its basic tenets. I have edited the article and most relevantly removed the case examples as they were more descriptive in nature and did not help objectively define terms. I do believe this fits wikipedia's goal of a neutrally written summary of a well-established movement in medicine fairly and accurately. Bpurkaple (talk) 16:01, 14 September 2019 (UTC)Becky[reply]

19:15:38, 14 September 2019 review of draft by Kolapoimam

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I submitted this page for review and it's been over a month already. I'll appreciate if anyone can review the page.

Kolapoimam (talk) 19:15, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kolapoimam:, as the unfortunate gray lining of our submission being high for some months now, the back log is far longer than that - there are some that have been in the queue for 16 weeks. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:57, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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