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00:14, 19 May 2024 review of submission by 104.172.224.182

• 104.172.224.182 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:AMPLE Entertainment (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My draft was declined because "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." But I cited everything with published magazine links. Can you please tell me why that is not sufficient?

Thank you,

Jen 104.172.224.182 (talk) 00:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

A cursory inspection shows that your magazine references consist mainly of PR pieces and Press Releases which are useless in establishing WP:NCORP. Please read HELP:YFA, WP:REFB, and WP:CITE.

The text is promotional. Had I reviewed it that would have been a second decline reason.

You have work to do 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 06:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

I (who reviewed it) missed that part. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 15:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@CSMention269 Every one of us misses things. It's part of human frailty, and is no bad thing in the global scheme of things, if there is a global scheme of things, that is. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

17:23, 19 May 2024 review of submission by Edenroberts4w

• Edenroberts4w (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Naresh Karthik (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

i have attached all reasonable verifiable sources and links to my afticle. yet it was rejected citing no verifiable sources ,. why ? how i get it right ? Edenroberts4w (talk) 17:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@Edenroberts4w: You cannot just slap a list of references on the end of the article and call it good in an article about a living person. There is also the matter that all the coverage appears to be about his struggles getting clueless educational authorities to comply with a law and that the article is hagiographical in tone (for which I will be tagging it for speedy deletion shortly. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 17:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@Edenroberts4w  Declined I have just declined this with rationale. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

And I've deleted it. Jéské Couriano is right. This draft was hopelessly over the top with an advertising tone. The gushingly positive commentary is more appropriate for an autobiography or advertising piece, neither of which we allow here. This is an encyclopedia, NOT an advertising platform. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@Hammersoft I think that makes perfect sense. I did have to look up hagiographical. I tend to use WP:ADMASQ 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@Timtrent: I linked WP:Spam there for a reason... —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 19:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

😈😇 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:19, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

20:22, 19 May 2024 review of submission by Li-reg

• Li-reg (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Benjamin Freidenberg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I think that due to many sources being in Hebrew or Israeli sources, the review wasnt possible bu I have added more sources and also this man has a wiki page in Hebrew and German so I need to understand what's wrong or how to help it get approved... Li-reg (talk) 20:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Li-reg. IMDb is not a reliable source, per WP:IMDB. Amazon sells almost everything and being mentioned on Amazon is of no value. Several of the sources are clearly not independent. Which sources are reliable, entirely independent of Freidenberg, and devote significant coverage to him? The quality of the sources is vastly more important than the quantity. As for the Hebrew and German Wikipedias, they are entirely independent of the English Wikipedia, and each project sets its own standards. English Wikipedia tends to be quite stringent. Cullen328 (talk) 22:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for replying! What about the other sources? I.e ynet, docaviv, universities... I placed a few more... Li-reg (talk) 13:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

I will expend:

1. Hebrew University - one of the top 3 uni' in Israel, very independent

2. Yad Vashem - Please read about it, couldnt be more independent

3. globes - One of the top 3 news websites in Israel, also very independent

4. bezalel - ezalel Academy of Arts and Design Jerusalem

and I assume you woulndnt want me to go on...

@Cullen328 Please have a look, it's very weird he's declined...

Thank you! Li-reg (talk) 20:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Li-reg, it seems that you did not understand what I meant when I wrote entirely independent of Freidenberg and devote significant coverage to him. He is a PhD candidate at Hebrew University, and their standard blurb about him is not an independent source. I am very familiar with Yad Vashem having visited there twice. The Yad Vashem source is a routine calendar listing of a film showing and a lecture by Freidenberg, and that is not significant coverage of Freidenberg. The Globes coverage is one sentence about one of Freidenberg's films being accepted to a film festival followed by another sentence about the festival that says nothing more about Freidenberg. That is a passing mention and is not significant coverage. As for Bezalel, he is a lecturer there and so their standard staff blurb about him is not independent coverage. So, if these are your four best sources, I recommend that you set this draft aside until much better sources emerge. Cullen328 (talk) 21:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi again, first, i'm happy you visited Yad Vashem! very importent for our nation...

I placed it since it confirms he's a lecturer as well as the other sources from the uni and collages in Israel. Here it's not a standart thing and not everyone gets a page.

I wrote about 4 sources but you can see there are others. I will add more now and resubmit with an explantion I added sources. Thank you and hope you will visit again,,, now we have more places to visit.. Li-reg (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)