Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways/Assessment/A-Class Review/Interstate 696

Interstate 696

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The article was promoted. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 04:26, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: Promote to A-Class

Nominator's comments: I present to you, Michigan's Autobahn, the Interstate that they said would never be built, the one, the only, the Walter P. Reuther Freeway, aka I-696. Enjoy! Yes, I know it needs a few more photos, but DanTheMan474 (talk · contribs) is supposed to help out there. Any other suggested sources of illustrative media would be appreciated.

Nominated by: Imzadi 1979 → 02:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First comment occurred: 00:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Resolved issues from Dough 48 72 01:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - I have some concerns with the article before I can support it for A-class:

" It starts by branching off I-96 and I-275 at the west end in Novi and ends by merging into I-94 at St. Clair Shores on the east end." - The second clause of the sentences has the verb "end" twice. Can this be fixed?
I would perhaps mention the part about I-696 being called Detroit's Autobahn in the last paragraph of the route description. It seems out of place in the beginning.
The sentence "Near the Detroit Arsenal Tank Plant, I-696 has another stack interchange, this time for Mound Road, making a slight bend to the south through the complex." sounds choppy.
The history does not explicitly mention that the I-98 designation was rejected and does not say when I-696 was first designated for the planned freeway.
"The first segment of the Reuther built was the western third of the completed freeway which opened in 1963–64 at a cost of $16.6 million." - wasn't it not called the Reuther at this time?
Can you clarify where the eastern section that opened ran from to from? Dough 48 72 00:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replies

Done.
Maybe, but then it's tacked on as an afterthought, where in the current location, it's integrated into the text.
Reworded.
I've yet to find a document or map that states when I-696 was approved or that I-98 was rejected.
Changed
Clarified. Imzadi 1979 → 01:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - My issues have been addressed. Dough 48 72 01:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Rschen7754

Lead

Might want to say east-west somewhere in the lead.
The various municipalities along... it?
Who is Reuther?

Route description

Spaghetti Bowl seems to be uncited.
"runs" in two consecutive sentences.
Ditto with Mixing Bowl.
as service drives? not clear

History

Have you considered using the new inflation templates for public works?
Why does it matter if they can walk to the temple?

Miscellaneous

Copyedits were made in a few places.
No complaints about the exit list or business spur sections.
Locator map might be helpful for the map, if you can; if not, no big deal.
All references look reliable; clueless on the formatting though.
Should be a support once these are fixed. --Rs chen 7754 07:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replies

Lead
- Done.
- Done
- "prominent auto industry union head, Walter P. Reuther." is the first reference to the name. Should I expand on that?
RD
- Pulling for now... the only verification for the name I can find is from wikitravel.org and a mirror of it, although I'm running into trouble because the name is so common.
- Fixed.
- Added a footnote for this name, which is easy to verify; MDOT even used it in a newsletter.
- Fixed, I hope.
History
Yeah, but the impression I have is that they're still in "beta testing", so I haven't used them yet.
Added.
Misc.
- Ok.
- Thanks. :-)
- Something to work on pre-FAC, for sure.
- Let me know if any of my changes need tweaking. Imzadi 1979 → 18:03, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support issues resolved. --Rs chen 7754 18:44, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Fredddie

I will begin a review soon. –Fredddie ™ 23:45, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

You might want to show that there was a gap in construction in the |history=
- I'm mulling over the wording for this because I haven't seen other articles note any gaps like that to have a feel for how to do it concisely. Imzadi 1979 → 06:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Tried this with CA 52, and it didn't work out too well. --Rs chen 7754 08:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I know about WP:OBVIOUS, but would "as the Walter P. Reuther Freeway, named for the prominent auto industry union head." sound better?
- Tweaked as suggested. Imzadi 1979 → 06:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think "partially circling" is the right term for describing I-696 since it's basically a straight line. I'm not so sure how it should be fixed.
- Tried a tweak to avoid the phrase. Imzadi 1979 → 04:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The comma after 1961 should be removed. There is no date to disambiguate with commas, so it's not needed.
Same thing with 1963
- For the two items above, the comma is there in each case because it's preceding the conjunction that joins independent clauses together into a compound sentence. Imzadi 1979 → 06:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't disagree, but I think the sentences flow better without the commas. Maybe someone else can offer an opinion. –Fredddie™ 16:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - I think the commas help with readability. --Rs chen 7754 19:54, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe move the sentence about Reuther to the second paragraph? I feel like the two sentences would be better together.
- I moved everything to the first paragraph's mention. Imzadi 1979 → 04:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The last sentence of the lead seems oddly constructed. Maybe split it in two?
- Already done, just didn't note it earlier. Imzadi 1979 → 04:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More to come. –Fredddie ™ 00:51, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Route description

In the first picture, you should be obvious and say which direction's end that is.
If possible, could you mention why it's called Detroit's Autobahn?
Does the Novi interchange have a name?
What direction does the Novi-Farmington Hills line run?
You should mention how long the M-10 interchange is.
Do you have a reference for the section near 10 Mile Rd being known for its retaining walls?
I'd change "service drives" to "frontage roads"
Later, you mention the Jewish center in the vicinity of the tunnels, but not in the RD. What gives?
Quadpoint→quadripoint
- All should be done, except #7, which is what they roads are actually called in the Detroit area. Imzadi 1979 → 04:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Good. I was going to ask you to pipe a frontage road wikilink for service drives, but you beat me to it.

History

When you mention the freeway being named after Reuther, it reads like the western third opened, then it was named after Reuther, and then he died.
Was the eastern section controversial? Seems odd to put its construction under a header about the middle.
Is Gov. Romney locking the people in the room cited to the NYT article?
- All done, and yes, the NYT article has the Romney info in it. Imzadi 1979 → 04:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Exit list

Related trunkline

That should do it. –Fredddie ™ 02:33, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replies above. Imzadi 1979 → 04:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Nice work. –Fredddie ™ 03:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - meets all the criteria, but as well it's thoroughly rich and interesting. A very nice article. Juliancolton (talk) 00:45, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image review:

File:I-696.svg - PD, could use PD-MUTCD.
File:Interstate 696 (Michigan) map.png - Released into PD by user. Is there a source for the GIS data?
File:Mixing Bowl Interchange (Novi, Michigan).png - Released into PD by user.
File:I-696 tunnel.jpg - CC-BY-SA 2.0 image from Flickr.
File:Interstate 696 and M-1 aerial.jpg - CC-BY-SA 2.0 image from Flickr.
File:Detroit, Michigan 1955 Yellow Book.jpg - Released into PD by US Government.
File:I696-1988.JPG - CC-BY-3.0 by user.
File:Interstate 696 pedestrian plazas Oak Park.jpg - Released into PD by MDOT via OTRS. Dough 48 72 00:58, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done OTRS images check out. --Rs chen 7754 01:05, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done on both of those. Imzadi 1979 → 01:17, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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