Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Reg Pollard (general)
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Bringing Australian General John Wilton to ACR recently was part of a long journey improving that particular article but this one was almost spur-of-the-moment -- I became interested in Pollard because he was Wilton's predecessor as chief of the Australian Army and it went from there. I then found out Pollard had a connection to Wilton's predecessor as chief of the Australian military, Frederick Scherger, as they were Duntroon classmates and obviously shared a similar sense of humour (see first para of Early life)! Anyway, hope you enjoy his story; I think it probably has the legs for FAC if successful here, so pls let me know if you think otherwise. Thanks to Rupert for his recent GA review, and in advance to everyone who comments here. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:27, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Support: I reviewed this for GA and I think it has the legs for A-class. AustralianRupert (talk) 03:03, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- I made a couple of minor tweaks, please check you are happy with these and adjust as you see fit;
- There are a few duplicate links in the lead, but they are probably fair enough in the circumstances;
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- "File:Reg Pollard 1942 023756.jpg" could be moved to Commons, but this is not a requirement for the review. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 03:03, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- Tks very much for stopping by, Rupert. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:19, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
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- In the lead you write: "Pollard's early post-war roles involved recruitment"... does this refer to his command of ARTC in 1946? If so I'd have throught "recruit training" would have been a more accurate description than recruitment (unless the sources use that term of cse).
- Yep, that'd be better -- will alter. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:23, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- I had to make a sustained effort to control my laughter at this piece of timeless wisdom: "...the average soldier complains considerably all the time" (a fact that is even more true today...)
- I think guileless public pronouncements like that can't help but endear their speaker to us... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:23, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- You might consider include the edition number for the version of The Oxford Companion to Australian Military History used as the content of many entries does vary between the 1st and 2nd edition (suggestion only, you identify it as the 2008 version which is sufficient to know its the 2nd Edition but saying so would make it obvious).
- Will do. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:23, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Nothing else came up after reading through it. Looks good to me. Anotherclown (talk) 11:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Tks AC. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:23, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Note -- Sorry to do this mid-review but I (and I think Rupert based on earlier conversation) was a bit suspicious of the OTRS rationale for the main image and this has been confirmed for me by an OTRS check I requested and finding a non-free copy of the image at NAA, so I've replaced it with the AWM one that was in the WWII section, and added a new WWII image from AWM. I'll see if I can't re-use the main image, or another of him as a general, under a FUR but for now I think we can do without it. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:15, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
CommentsSupport by Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 22:49, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- I haven't got much to add, this article looks in very good shape. I do wonder if there is enough on his personal life to meet FA requirements, but it's worth a shot.
- He seems to have led a relatively quiet life like fellow grazier Frank Bladin, while still doing a couple of noteworthy things, and Bladin achieved FA so hopefully we'll be right... :-)
- Use of CGS in the lead isn't preceded by its use in parentheses. I suggest putting it in full in the second place in the lead, then introducing the initialisation at its first use in the body.
- Oops, agree.
- The first sentence of the Retirement section seems quite clunky to me, suggest redrafting it.
- I think the info is useful so would it be okay to just flip the clauses, e.g. "Pollard left the military on 20 January 1963, having reached the mandatory retirement age of sixty and recommended Wilton to succeed him as CGS"?
- I agree the info needs to be there, but I think the sentence isn't as tight as it could be. Perhaps Pollard reached the mandatory retirement age of 60, and left the military on 20 January 1963, after recommending Wilton as his successor.? Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 01:11, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, done it that way. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- I agree the info needs to be there, but I think the sentence isn't as tight as it could be. Perhaps Pollard reached the mandatory retirement age of 60, and left the military on 20 January 1963, after recommending Wilton as his successor.? Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 01:11, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- I think the info is useful so would it be okay to just flip the clauses, e.g. "Pollard left the military on 20 January 1963, having reached the mandatory retirement age of sixty and recommended Wilton to succeed him as CGS"?
Tks for stopping by, PM! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:19, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- Have re-checked the image licenses, and all are ok, AWM collection images that pre-date 1959. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 01:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
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