Wikipedia talk:Ambassadors/Courses/BrunellFeministThought

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Hi, I see a bunch of articles from your group are starting to crop up. Thanks for joining Wikipedia. It may be helpful if your students prepare more fully developed articles offline, and then insert them into wikipedia in a good initial state, rather than using wikipedia as a working space. (for the initial article at least). This will ensure that other editors are not confused by content, and may delete it if it is unreferenced, or does not have enough context for a complete article. Gaijin42 (talk) 22:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

• Hi, Gaijin42, thanks for the input--can you let me know which articles you're referring to? I'm happy to follow up with groups/students if you're noticing a problem. The students have been working offline on their articles all semester, and so both content and formatting should be in good condition at this point. If they're not, or if you have specific constructive criticisms, please feel free to engage the students and ask questions about particular edits--we are all here as novice editors, and we want to learn! For example, I know many students will be pleased to see their edits discussed on the articles' talk pages. :) However, if there is an issue I need to mediate, I am happy to--just let me know. Thanks again, Adrianpauw (talk) 17:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

The article which brought me here was Existential_feminism which I noticed during new page patrol. The initial revision I saw was pretty incomplete, and so I marked it for deletion as off topic/original research etc. However, I did notice that the creator was continuing to add new content, so I removed my deletion request. Ultimately the article looks like it is/will be fine, but it could save trouble/confusion if it was typed up offline, and just dropped in with at least the minimum "good" content in place. (And in their defense, I am often quite quick on the draw for deleting new pages, and I should perhaps have given it more time in any case)

A second problem I just noticed as I was finding the links to include in this response : this article appears to be a duplicate of Feminist_existentialism and they should probably be merged (or in this case since there is so much overlap, the new article would just be deleted as duplicate - in this case, that would be a shame, as your student's article appears to be superior). As you are part of the ambassador program, I will give you guys some leeway on issues like this so that your students aren't getting discouraged, or have their grades messed up, but checking for things like this will help with the long term quality of wikipedia. BTW, I do not want to single out this particular author, it is a core part of the ambassador program that we are by definition dealing with new editors, who do not know the ropes. I just wanted to perhaps give you some guidance that you could pass along in a general fashion.

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia, and your good attitude and open mindedness in this matter!

Gaijin42 (talk) 18:06, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Yes, it appears that the students' content should go into Feminist_existentialism instead of creating a new Existential_feminism. I thought we caught all of these, but alas! :) At this point, what should this group of students do? Should their new content be merged into the existing Feminist_existentialism, and if so, what is the best and most transparent way of doing so? Once again, thank you so much for your friendly assistance! All the best, Adrianpauw (talk) 18:17, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

They can just add whatever content they would like to the existing article, and then redirect the new page to the existing one. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:25, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Perfect, thank you! All the best. Adrianpauw (talk) 18:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Gaijin42 has offered some excellent guidance here. I would recommend moving the article to the user's sandbox, then creating the redirect. Otherwise, another editor may come along that is not as helpful as Gaijin42 and delete the article as a duplicate. As far as the student's article, please make sure to have them review guidelines on reliable sources and remove the citations using Wikipedia/encyclopedias. If you need help with moving or redirecting the article, please contact me. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 22:22, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thank you very much to Gaijin42 and Cindy. Much appreciation! Best, Adrianpauw (talk) 23:46, 13 December 2011 (UTC)