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Blurb

On 14 Sept 2005

Hurricane Ophelia was a long-lived tropical cyclone in September 2005 that moved along an erratic path off the East Coast of the United States. It originated as a area of low pressure near the Bahamas and then moved generally northward, reaching hurricane status on September 8. Over the next week, it oscillated between tropical storm and hurricane strength, before growing to reach peak strength on September 14, with winds of 85 mph (140 km/h). It moved northwest toward North Carolina becfore changing direction and degraded to a tropical storm on September 16. It traversed Atlantic Canada and the northern Atlantic Ocean before dissipating on September 23 over the Norwegian Sea. its erratic track prompted warnings and watches for much of the Eastern Seaboard, including deploying the National Guard Its impacts were significantly less than feared although 1,500 homes were damaged in North Carolina. The Federal Emergency Management Agency provided roughly $5.2 million in public assistance

and the National Guard assisted with distribution of relief supplies. (Full article...)

CCI check

Following on this comment from Hog Farm regarding Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/WikiProject Tropical cyclones#Background, specifically Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/WikiProject Tropical cyclones 02#Articles 1921 to 1940, checking this article. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Versions and sub-articles

• Hurricane Ophelia (2005)
  • GA version 81655148 October 15, 2006 General Earwig clear
    • Earwig v www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL162005_Ophelia.pdf at archive.org clear
    • Earwig v https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/dis/al162005.discus.003.shtml clear
    • Earwig v https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/dis/al162005.discus.015.shtml clear
    • Earwig v https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/tws/MIATWSAT_sep.shtml clear
  • GAR version 214763212 May 25, 2008 General Earwig clear
  • Pre-FAC version 1051669251 October 24, 2021 General Earwig clear
  • Current 1087125724 May 10, 2022 General Earwig clear
• 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, compared to Ophelia:
  • GA version 81203809 October 13, 2006
  • GAR version 208876171 April 28, 2008
  • Pre-FAC version 1050008723 October 15, 2021
  • Current 1084109339 April 22, 2022

Conclusion: No indications of public domain or other copyright issues. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

To check

• Hurricane Ophelia (2005) 23305606 21:26, September 15, 2005
  • 2005 Atlantic hurricane season 23304974 21:15, September 15, 2005
    • Copied within Earwig

Conclusion: Content was copied from the season article without attribution by User:CrazyC83 when Ophelia was created. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Templates

• Done, [1] and [2] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

PATT edit summary

WP:PATT: content partially copied from 2005 Atlantic hurricane season as of revision 23304974 with this edit; refer to that page's edit history for additional attribution

• Done, [3] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

SandyGeorgia comments

• There is one instance of pp for a page range (Angel et al. 2005, pp. 149–150.), but multiple instances of page ranges of more than one page using only a single p (sample: Rogers et al. 2006, p. 1,525–1,527). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:35, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Corrected these. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• Do we need this editorializing in the image caption? An enlarged and annotated map of Hurricane Ophelia's track along the East Coast of the United States ... Can it be shortened to just "Hurricane Ophelia's track along the East Coast of the United States"? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Changed ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• Why are there italics in the image captions here and here?
  • Picked it up from editing Template:In the news, removed the italics. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• Many of the maps breach MOS:COLOUR. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:40, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
  • @SandyGeorgia: We’ve been working on revamping the track maps for over half a year at this point to get the colors to adhere to ACCESS. After some issues with canvassing (and subsequent ArbCom case) I think we’ve arrived at a color consensus so the next step is how to improve the maps. Since that could take who knows how many months, would a map such as the one in Zelda 1991’s article be adherent to MOS? I’m fine foregoing the classic map if this is the route we have to take in the interim. With the second map showing the zoomed in track, I think that complies with ACCESS since the color of the track doesn’t convey info, it’s just aesthetic. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 20:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

    I'm not lodging an Oppose based on this, as I recognize this is an issue across almost all maps in almost all featured articles, and there is probably no easy solution ... just trying to raise awareness, and glad to hear work is underway. I can't make much sense of the Zelda map ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:21, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• Why is hurricane-status hyphenated here (it is not modifying anything), and what is soon adding? The following day it organized into Tropical Storm Ophelia and soon reached hurricane-status on September 8. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Removed ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• Gradually growing in size, the system reached its peak strength on September 14 upon reaching hurricane strength for the fourth time with maximum sustained winds of 85 mph (140 km/h). Convoluted, hard to follow, reach ... reaching ... vary wording ... maybe ? ... Gradually growing in size, the system reached hurricane strength for the fourth time and its peak strength on September 14, with maximum sustained winds of 85 mph (140 km/h). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Replaced with the suggested wording. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• Another ... person ? (As opposed to fatality)? Rough seas led to one fatality in Florida and left another missing in South Carolina while rain-slicked roads contributed to a fatal accident in North Carolina. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Added "person" ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• This sentence is ungrammatical: Forecasters at the National Hurricane Center (NHC)[nb 2] described the dual lows as a "complex scenario" and that possible tropical cyclogenesis would be slow to occur. ... and stated that ?? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Added "stated" ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

@SandyGeorgia: I've made the suggested changes. Thank you very much for looking over the article and handling the CCI! I'll be excerpting this into the main review page for the FAC coordinates to see these comments. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)