Wikipedia talk:Long titles

RfC: How Should Wikipedia handle subtitles?

My opinion can be found on the page. superluser_tc 2007 December 19, 00:47 (UTC)

• Two cents Subtitles should be bolded and included in the first line of the lead but should generally give way to WP:COMMONNAME in the article title. So I would say that Dr. Strangelove should be preferred over Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb and please don't ever change Robinson Crusoe to [[The Life and most Surprizing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe of York, Mariner: who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an uninhabited Island on the coast of America, lying near the Mouth of the Great River of Oroonoque; Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself. With An Account how he was at last as strangely deliver'd by Pyrates. Written by Himself]]. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 03:10, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, of course page naming is going to be different from how the title is used in the article proper. It's stated that way in the MoS (WP:MOSTITLE). If this is added to that page, then it would be redundant to have the disambiguation at the top and in this section.

In fact, Wikipedia already has a really awesome convention for naming articles with subtitles at WP:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles. Hm. Maybe it is worth mentioning that. superluser_tc 2007 December 19, 06:40 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved to WP:Long titles; redirect and shortcut created to WP:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles. Miniapolis 15:11, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:SUBTITLES → ? – This article should be renamed and moved so that the title WP:SUBTITLES can become a shortcut/redirect to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles instead, which seems like a more useful application of WP:SUBTITLES. --Relisted. Steel1943 (talk) 05:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC) Steel1943 (talk) 00:59, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

• Support as nom. However, I am unsure of what to name this article if the article is moved. Steel1943 (talk) 01:29, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

• Comment – As I discussed in the Requested move discussion at Talk:Don't Eat the Pictures, subtitles aren't limited to books—movies, television specials, songs and video games may also have subtitles. Might be nice to have a consistent subtitle naming convention for all media. Wbm1058 (talk) 01:49, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

• If that's the case, it seems like this article should still be moved ... but then, at that point, where to point the redirect might be a topic of controversy. Also, it seems like the consensus at Talk:Don't Eat the Pictures#Requested Move is, in theory, in line with the current policy listed at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles, even though the topic at Don't Eat the Pictures is video media. Just some food for thought. Steel1943 (talk) 02:06, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

• Support/oppose support moving this page, oppose redirecting to NC-BOOKS. "subtitles" are dealt with on several guideline pages. [1][2][3] ; suggest WP:Use full titles on intro sentence -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 03:47, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

• Comment. The advice at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles should really be added as a section to Wikipedia:Article titles (expanded to include other media), then this page could be redirected to that section. Alternatively, this page could be improved and turned into a subpage of the Manual of Style (e.g. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Subtitles. In the meantime, as a temporary measure, I support redirecting this page to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:43, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
• Support this move for now and SlimVirgin's first suggestion. Also in the meantime, perhaps a sentence at the target section "This applies to other media as well." --BDD (talk) 16:15, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
• Support move. Since (as far as I see) nobody has proposed an actual new title, I suggestWP:LONGTITLES. Theoldsparkle (talk) 17:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

• Comment. There actually has been a suggested title: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Subtitles, recommended by SlimVirgin. Also, I oppose moving this article to any title that is ALL-CAPS, such as WP:LONGTITLES; ALL-CAPS titles are supposed to be used for shortcuts. Steel1943 (talk) 18:55, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.