Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (years in titles)/Poll2

Poll

This is a poll regarding the naming conventions of years in titles, and dates in general. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:43, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Use of hyphen, en dash, or word

Use of en dash instead of hyphen

• Note: This means that a redirect would be created for using a hyphen.

1. Hyphen Generally, a hyphen is sufficient; I find en dashes somewhat out of place, but there are exceptions (see below). I will resist em dashes in this context with my last ounce of strength. E Pluribus Anthony 21:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
2. En dash Looks moreprofessional.Susvolans ⇔ 08:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Using the word to instead of a hyphen

1. Hyphen in heading, word in narration/conjunction Generally use hyphens: the word to should only be used narratively and in conjunction with other words, viz. from – e.g., from 1864 to 1901, not from 1864-1901; during the period 1864-1901. E Pluribus Anthony 21:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Format of full dates

20 January 2005

Format of: DD MONTHNAME YYYY

1. DD MONTHNAME YYYY Unequivocally; smaller to bigger. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
2. As above, also saves arguments over whether on not to put extra cammas around the date. Susvolans ⇔ 07:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

January 20, 2005

Format of: MONTHNAME DD YYYY

1. Support. Actually makes sense, is used, etc. Actually, mostly, it just looks better. Matt Yeager 05:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

   Comment: this may be a Mars vs. Venus date-usage issue; as I'm a Canuck, does that make me a ... "hybrid"? :) E Pluribus Anthony 09:24, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Format with only day and month

20 January

Format of: DD MONTHNAME

1. DD MONTHNAME Unequivocally; smaller to bigger. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
2. Support, though not at the expense of user preferences. Susvolans ⇔ 08:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

January 20

Format of: MONTHNAME DD

1. Support. Actually makes sense, is used, etc. Actually, mostly, it just looks better. Matt Yeager 05:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Date ranges for years

1888-89

1. Support; it just looks better. Matt Yeager 05:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

1888-9

1. YYY1-2 For this example, this is valid. However, in ranges where the difference is more marked, the two previous options may be equally valid – e.g., 1864-94, 1864-1901, but not 1864-901. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Date ranges for months & days

20-30 June

1. DD1-DD2 MONTH Again, include months when they differ – e.g., 20-30 June, but 20 June-15 August. Here (since words are included), an en dash would also work – e.g., 20–30 June, but 20 June–15 August. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

June 20-30

1. Support; clearly the best. Matt Yeager 05:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Date ranges for full dates

June 1, 2005 - June 30, 2005

1. Support. Claramente. Just looks good. Matt Yeager 05:24, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

1 June 2005 - 30 June 2005

Note: This is more internationalised format...

1. date1 – date2, or date1–date2 This is my preference (with en dash, spaces); an en dash can also appear in the immediately previous example (without spaces) – e.g., 1 June 2005 – 30 June 2005, 1 June 2005–30 June 2005. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Event format

The bolded capitalized letters DATE indicates one of the date formats above or date ranges above.

A comma

Like:

• U.S. presidential election, 2000
• U.S. presidency, 2000 - 2004
• Tropical storm season, 10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005

Issues (as cited before): Hard to use in a sentence, good title structure, but difficult to use in an article.

Possible solution(s): Redirect a proper titled link that is usable in a sentence to this preferred title

Parenthesis

Like:

• U.S. presidential election (2000)
• U.S. presidency (2000 - 2004)
• Tropical storm season (10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005)

Possible problem: A pipe (|) would cause the date to disappear, making [[EVENT NAME (DATE)]] to appear as [[EVENT NAME (DATE)|EVENT NAME]]; So, U.S. presidential election (2000) and U.S. presidential election (2004) with a pipe would display as U.S. presidential election.

1. Parenthesis My general preference; as a secondary, commas may also do ... particularly when one or only a few subtitles in an article include a date range. Note – as above: I think Tropical storm season (June 2005) (without day numbers) is appropriate in this example. In any case, redirects can be used. E Pluribus Anthony 22:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

   Meant to vary the date ^^ --AllyUnion (talk) 09:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

of

Like:

• U.S. presidential election of 2000
• U.S. presidency of 2000 - 2004
• Tropical storm season of 10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005
• U.S. presidency of 2000 to 2004
• Tropical storm season of 10 June 2005 to 15 June 2005

1. Support Oh, now this looks nice. It's grammatical, how you'd actually say stuff, etc. Matt Yeager 05:27, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

in

Like:

• U.S. presidential election in 2000
• U.S. presidency in 2000 - 2004
• Tropical storm season in 10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005
• U.S. presidency in 2000 to 2004
• Tropical storm season in 10 June 2005 to 15 June 2005

from

Like:

• U.S. presidential election from 2000
• U.S. presidency from 2000 - 2004
• Tropical storm season from 10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005
• U.S. presidency from 2000 to 2004
• Tropical storm season from 10 June 2005 to 15 June 2005

Make the date in front

Like:

• 2000 U.S. presidential election
• 2000 - 2004 U.S. presidency
• 10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005 Tropical storm season

Special conditions: separate range and non-range formats

For non-range dates use:

• 2000 U.S. presidential election

For ranged dates use something like (or any of others above):

• Tropical storm season of 10 June 2005 to 15 June 2005