Wikipedia talk:Romanization of Russian/Harmonization

Columns

So, which variant of the name do you propose to use universally—the one listed in the "Transliteration" column, or the one in the "Conventional/Anglicization" column? It is not immediately apparent. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 17:39, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

Time will tell. Maybe this table would allow us to see more patters on a case to case basis then to come up with a transparent naming system, maybe not. As of now, I believe it's proper to BGN/PCGN transliterate Slavic names and Latin/Greek/Hebrew adaptations that sound different enough when anglicized, but provide conventional English writing for well-established names that sound just like their Russian counterparts. And having followed the usage patterns, I think ИЯ should be transliterated with IA because the latter is unconventional in Russian but very conventional in English transliterations of Hebrew names. DmitryKo 23:14, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Arkhangelsk

Arkhangelsk is called just that now. "Archangel" is the form that's no longer in common use. Are you sure you want it in the geographical names table? Maybe a note should be added to indicate obsolescence.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 16:25, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)

I'm yet to perform some major maintenance on this page (sigh), it's still very preliminary and controversial. Hopefully I will be able to divert some time to the task on the weekend, if I have finished the Russian military ranks by then. Stay tuned. DmitryKo 19:50, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This page seems defunct, but even so I've replaced "Archangel's" with just "Archangel". I have no idea why the former was present; it's 100% wrong. Hairy Dude (talk) 02:04, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Transliterations

There are no transliterations in the "transliterations" column. Its just something else :-\ Why "Anastasia", but "Evgeniya"?--Nixer 21:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

This is a work in progress, and seemingly abandonded one at that.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 04:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Not abandoned

Well, the good news are this page is not abandoned yet, even though it may seem so, I just needed some time off and some more comments from interested parties (which didn't come). But I'm actually surprised that this page still gets updated from time to time.

Maybe it was not stated entirely clear, but the primary goal of this article is to provide a list of conventionally Anglicized names, in order to evaluate a policy of preferring the English spelling of a borrowed foreign name to the plain Romanized spelling (except for cases where Romanized version has already became common).

The secondary goal was to evaluate my proposed changes to transliteration of soft/hard signs (based on my suggestions on this Talk page) and see if it does any good to Russian names. This part just wasn't entirly clear to me at the time, so there are lot of errors and inconsistencies. But now that I've completely forgotten any reasoning behind my proposals :), I can re-read the discussion and reevaluate them again.

Actually, I was leaning to the decision to get rid of my proposed transliterations and just re-do the plain romanization according to the last version defined in Wikipedia:Romanization_of_Russian - that way, it would be easier to reconsider the cases when conventionally Anglicized versions should be favoured over plain Romanized versions. --DmitryKo 01:20, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I indeed thought you abandonded this effort. Glad you are still interested. One of the reasons it's been awfully quiet here is partially because this page is not all that easy to find, and second, there is another effort going on at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic), where most of the activity is (although it's not really crowded there either :)). That project is aimed to bring order to transliteration of all languages using the Cyrillic script. You are more than welcome to join, and if you can figure out how to plug in this proposal into what is already being discussed there, it would certainly give people additional food for thought. See you around.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 01:45, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

List of Russian names

List of the most common Russian names contains some entries I omitted... will be incorporating them as well. --DmitryKo 18:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC)