Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/December 28

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Q1: Why is [Insert event here], an event that is "more important and significant" than all the others that are currently listed, not posted?: A1: Relative article quality along with the mix of topics already listed are often deciding factors in what gets posted. Any given day of the year can have a great many important or significant historical events. The problem is that there is generally only room on the Main Page to list about 5 events at a time, so not everything can be posted.

As stated on Wikipedia:FAQ/Main Page, the items and events posted on the Main Page are chosen based more on how well they are written, not based on how much important or significant their subjects are. It is easier for admins to select a well-written, cited, verifiable article over a poor one versus trying to determine objectively how much a subject is important or significant.

Keep in mind that the quality requirements only apply to the selected bolded article, not the other links. Thus, an event may qualify for multiple dates in a year if there is an article written in a summary style and an article providing detailed content; if one of those pages have cleanup issues, the other page can be bolded as an alternate.

Another criterion is to maintain some variety of topics, and not exhibit, just for example, tech-centrism, or the belief that the world stops at the edge of the English-speaking world. Many days have a large pool of potential articles, so they will rotate in and out every year to give each one some Main Page exposure. In addition, an event is not posted if it is also the subject of this year's scheduled featured article or featured picture.

Q2: There are way too many 20th-century events listed. Why aren't there more events from the 19th century and before?

A2: The short, basic reason is the systemic bias of Wikipedia. There are not enough good, well-written articles on 19th-century and earlier events for all 365 days in the year. Currently, a majority of users seem to be generally more interested in writing articles about recent events. If you would like to further help mitigate the systemic bias in Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias.

Q3: This page seems to be biased toward events based in [Insert country or region here]. What can be done about it?

A3: This again is attributed to the systemic bias of Wikipedia. Many users are generally more interested in working on good, well-written articles pertaining to their home country. Since this is the English Wikipedia, there will be more English-speaking users, and thus more articles pertaining to English-speaking countries. And if there are more users who are from the United States, there will probably be more well-written articles about events based in the United States. Again, if you would like to further help mitigate the systemic bias in Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias.

Q4: Why is the birthday/death anniversary of [Insert name here] not listed?

A4: There are only four slots available for birth and death anniversaries. As with the events, article quality and diversity in time period, geography, and reason for notability are all contributing factors in whether an article gets selected for inclusion.

Q5: Are the holidays/observances listed in any particular order?

A5: Yes, there is a specified order: International observances first, then alphabetically by where observed.

Q6: Some of the holidays/observances that are listed have dates in parentheses beside them. What do they mean?

A6: There are two reasons that some holidays/observances have dates next to them:

Non-Gregorian-based holidays/observances are marked with the current year as a reminder to others that their dates do in fact vary from year to year.
National Days, Independence Days, and other holidays celebrating the nationhood of a country are generally marked by the year of the significant historic date being observed.

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2011 notes

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Westminster Abbey (maintenance), NC16002 disappearance (maintenance), Proclamation Day#South Australia (maintenance)
Restored articles (unused): John C. Calhoun (previously removed for not having the date in the article)
Swapped out: Taksin, South Australia, 1908 Messina earthquake, Constance Markievicz, Battle of Ortona
Swapped in: 893 Dvin earthquake (first appearance), Huia (first appearance), San Francisco Municipal Railway (first appearance), 1989 Newcastle earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2009), Fall of Mogadishu (first appearance)

--howcheng {chat} 21:36, 26 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Note: Constance Markievicz put back in to balance the columns. howcheng {chat} 00:42, 28 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Westminster Abbey
Omitted: 893 Dvin earthquake; Huia; Constance Markievicz; 1989 Newcastle earthquake; Fall of Mogadishu (2006)
Included: Alaric II (first appearance); Neptune (5th appearance, last in 2007; moved from September 23, where it was replaced by Discovery of Neptune; 400th anniversary); Tay Bridge disaster (2nd appearance, last in 2008; rescued from Ineligible); Pavel Postyshev (first appearance)
Repeats: San Francisco Municipal Railway (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 100th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Constance Markievicz (maintenance)
New articles (unused): United Airlines Flight 173
Omitted: Alaric II; Neptune; Tay Bridge disaster; San Francisco Municipal Railway; Pavel Postyshev
Included: Westminster Abbey (7th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Taksin (4th appearance, last in 2010); Battle of Ortona (2nd appearance, last in 2010; 70th anniversary); Endangered Species Act (2nd appearance, last in 2009; 40th anniversary); Roboski Massacre (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:55, 27 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Westminster Abbey; Taksin; Battle of Ortona; Endangered Species Act
Included: South Australia (8th appearance, last in 2010); Tay Bridge disaster (3rd appearance, last in 2012); San Francisco Municipal Railway (3rd appearance, last in 2012); 1989 Newcastle earthquake (3rd appearance, last in 2011; 25th anniversary); Roboski airstrike (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 08:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: South Australia; Tay Bridge disaster; San Francisco Municipal Railway; 1989 Newcastle earthquake; Roboski airstrike
Included: Westminster Abbey (8th appearance, last in 2013; 950th anniversary); Neptune (6th appearance, last in 2012); John C. Calhoun (first appearance); 1908 Messina earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Pavel Postyshev (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 80th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:46, 26 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: South Australia (maintenance); United Airlines Flight 173 (maintenance)
Omitted: Westminster Abbey; Neptune; John C. Calhoun; 1908 Messina earthquake; Pavel Postyshev
Included: 893 Dvin earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Taksin (5th appearance, last in 2013); Huia (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Endangered Species Act of 1973 (3rd appearance, last in 2013); 2009 Karachi bombing (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 08:46, 28 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Westminster Abbey (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Constance Markievicz
Omitted: Massacre of the Innocents (ineligible—maintenance); 893 Dvin earthquake; Taksin; Huia; Endangered Species Act of 1973; 2009 Karachi bombing
Included: Proclamation Day (rescued from Ineligible); Alaric II (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Neptune (7th appearance, last in 2015); Auguste and Louis Lumière (5th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Ortona (3rd appearance, last in 2013); MS Norman Atlantic (first appearance); Arthur Hunter Palmer (first appearance); Thomas Babington Macaulay (first appearance); Maurice Ravel (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 03:21, 28 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Alaric II; Neptune; Auguste and Louis Lumière; MS Norman Atlantic; Arthur Hunter Palmer; Thomas Babington Macaulay; Maurice Ravel
Included: Westminster Abbey (9th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Taksin (6th appearance, last in 2016; 250th anniversary); Constance Markievicz (3rd appearance, last in 2011; 100th anniversary); Fall of Mogadishu (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 10th anniversary); William Carstares (first appearance); Carl-Gustaf Rossby (first appearance); Ratan Tata (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Ortona (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 75th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: San Francisco Municipal Railway (maintenance); Endangered Species Act of 1973 (maintenance); Roboski airstrike (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Muriel Siebert; Albert Christoph Dies
Omitted: Westminster Abbey; Taksin; Constance Markievicz; Battle of Ortona; Fall of Mogadishu; William Carstares; Carl-Gustaf Rossby; Ratan Tata
Included: 893 Dvin earthquake (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Tay Bridge disaster (4th appearance, last in 2014); Huia (3rd appearance, last in 2016); 1989 Newcastle earthquake (4th appearance, last in 2014; 30th anniversary); 2009 Karachi bombing (2nd appearance, last in 2016; 10th anniversary); Wang Zongbi (first appearance); Arthur Hunter Palmer (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 100th birthday); Barbara Judge (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:59, 29 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Auguste and Louis Lumière (maintenance); Pavel Postyshev (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Massacre of the Innocents (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Roboski airstrike
Omitted: Proclamation Day (ineligible—maintenance); 893 Dvin earthquake; Tay Bridge disaster; Huia; 1989 Newcastle earthquake; 2009 Karachi bombing; Arthur Hunter Palmer; Barbara Judge
Included: Alaric II (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Westminster Abbey (10th appearance, last in 2018); Neptune (8th appearance, last in 2017); 1908 Messina earthquake (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Muriel Siebert (first appearance); Antoine Furetière (first appearance); Albert Christoph Dies (first appearance); Susan Sontag (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Alaric II; Westminster Abbey; Neptune; 1908 Messina earthquake; Antoine Furetière; Albert Christoph Dies; Susan Sontag
Included: Proclamation Day (rescued from Ineligible); Taksin (7th appearance, last in 2018); John C. Calhoun (2nd appearance, last in 2015); Constance Markievicz (4th appearance, last in 2018); Battle of Ortona (5th appearance, last in 2018); Roboski massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2014; 10th anniversary); Andrea Gritti (first appearance); Shen Congwen (first appearance); Barbara Judge (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 75th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 05:04, 29 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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