Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Speed Skating

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I finished creating {{WikiProject Speed Skating}} template for talkpages of any article that involves Speed Skating... aka, the athletes, history, competitions. Please go through and add the template to the talkpages! Also, be sure to include a rating and priority assessment when including the template.

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I've decided to run the bot User:Xenobot Mk Vwhich will tag & auto-assess articles in the scope of this project based on categories and/or auto-assess the project's unassessed articles. I am currently creating the list of categories for the bot to go through at Wikipedia:WikiProject Speed skating/Categories. I will make the request when the list is comprehensive. Feel free to add more Speed Skating categories in the meantime. oncamera^(t) 18:30, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Why the capital S for "skating"? Shouldn't this be the "WikiProject Speed skating"? Jared Preston (talk) 20:36, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so; I took the capitalization from Wikipedia:WikiProject Figure Skating, as that is a larger and more established WikiProject. oncamera^(t) 23:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Infoboxes

I see the usage of two different infoboxes. Which one is best for Speed Skaters' biographies? {{Infobox Speed Skater}} as seen on Apolo Ohno or {{Infobox sportsperson}} as seen on Ahn Hyun-Soo. It should be consistent, so it's possible to modify the Speed Skater to include more information. oncamera^(t) 23:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

{{Infobox Speed Skater}} would be my first choice. I'm not a big fan of redundant information and think two separate boxes for the personal info and medals are a good idea.Philipmj24 (talk) 00:56, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not a big fan of redundancy either, so I think the information in the infobox should be consice, and the information in the text more elaborate such as the record section of Stien Kaiser. I am biased here, cause I made that myself. Dirk P Broer (talk) 15:17, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Is that the standard method for records of long track skaters? Because it looks nice! It should be the standard... And the comments about concise and two separate templates without the redundant info sounds best. oncamera^(t) 05:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I have actually started switching some of the infoboxes for Canadian speed skaters over and for two specific reasons.

1.) In this way both the medal box and info box are of equal sizes in all screen formats. Not only this but it presents a cleaner more 'professional look'.

2.) Secondly it actually formats well and fits in with most of the other winter sports competitors. For most of us working on Canadian athletes we have started using headercolor = #99bdcc , I don't know the actual reason for this colour but I believe it was done under the pretenses that it was more "wintery"? I dunno, I hated it at first because people were using a brighter blue but they've toned it down and I prefer it to the brown. Any other editors from other nations should feel free to use a colour of their choice but I would guess it would be good to standardise it.

3.) Thirdly every other winter sport has made the change, to me it looks like we are dragging our heels on this while others switch over. I question both the merits and reasoning of why we should be the exception.

In closing I would add that the old boxes are outdated and the Sportsperson box is cleaner, modern, and more presentable. I vote we switch over as I have already started doing. All information like personal bests etc, should and still can be transported over into the new boxes. You can actually keep all the same info that was in the Speed Skater box and move it over without penalty to the Sportsperson box, which is what I'm advocating for. I'm not advocating for increased "redundant" information but it's important to remember that many people will read these pages only in glancing, hence the infoboxes, we should use the standard sports boxes. I don't see any reason why we don't switch, the old boxes were great but every once in awhile we need to update. Cheers, Krazytea (talk) 03:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, changes to infobox speed skater could be done without having to go one-by-one and change all the articles that use it. That would be a long process, so if we make the changes, perhaps it'd be better to edit {{Infobox speed skater}} itself and that will save the time (except for making the adjustments of moving the medals into the infobox). And we can make the color standardized so it isn't "nation by nation" but one color for all skaters. What I don't like about {{Infobox sportsperson}} is the "Sport" section, that looks generic... which is why I'd rather we have our own template. And with medals being in the tables, I suggest we do not collapse the medals as I rather think it's important to show if a skater has won a lot of medals for the viewer to get that immediately. I am agreeing with your reasons for a modernization, but that we still use {{Infobox speed skater}} but with substantial changes? And one more code-related thing, in {{Infobox sportsperson}} the code for the image must be changed for an "alt text" to be added so that when an article is nominated for feature-class, they don't complain about the image not having an alt tag. Current {{Infobox speed skater}} already has that turned on, so we'd have make sure to keep that if we switch. oncamera^(t) 23:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Ya I can agree with that, my primary concerns are addressed as above, to due with the formatting concerns, and modernisation. I agree with you on the content issue and how it is portrayed, I don't think it would require substantial changes to the info box but there is definitely some "roll up the sleeves let's get to work" matters involved there. I think if we look at the Figure Skating infobox that's pretty much what we are going for, only with the Speed Skating content, and non-collapsed medal boxes. Those are changes we could make, or I think you got someone else to set up the info box for us earlier? Perhaps we could get them to do the editing and additions for us again? Just as long as everyone is on board with it, I don't want to be the only one pushing for these ideas, but I think it's for the best! Cheers, Krazytea (talk) 20:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, we'll wait a couple of days to see if anyone else has ideas about the remodeled infobox. And with the figure skating one, I don't like the ISU results tab, but we could use Titles instead for Worlds, WC Overall Titles... and we'll probably want to figure out exactly what we want before we go and ask those who are knowledgeable in infobox structures to make the changes for us, that way, they're not confused. oncamera^(t) 01:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

World Cup Medals/Results

And I have a question, I noticed on articles like Simon Cho, that World Cup race medals were being added to the medal table. Does anyone think we should have some sort of results table for this? Because I think adding medals for the individual World Cup event races would really add too many medals... Something similar to Kim_Yu-Na#Detailed_results but with a tab for each race (includes if they made it to the finals, the times, etc instead of the SP and FS columns)... I don't know if that would be too much work to update, but it would give a means to add medal results and make a wider use of pages like 2010–11 ISU Short Track Speed Skating World Cup‎. oncamera^(t) 01:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

One of my absolute pet peeves is people putting World Cup results in the medal boxes. They really should not go there, having a place for world cup and other results is fine, although I would prefer to limit it to World Cup victories, something like the results table for Alexandre Bilodeau. I think reducing clutter is important and if we allow every world cup result it could turn into quite a mess in my opinion. Krazytea (talk) 21:44, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it would definitely get cluttered. I like the results tables on Alexandre Bilodeau for World Cup victories versus the medal tables. But if we did that, would we have to include Olympic results and World Championship results as well? oncamera^(t) 22:05, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Well I think that would be up to us, I have run into complaints where people wanted those results there. However I think in the case of speed skating and short track and the fact that these athletes compete in multiple distances I think we start running into the clutter factor. The same thing could happen with World Cup victories alone, I don't know how it's going to play out but seeing as some athletes have won up to 6 events in a single distances alone over the season, add that over a 8 year or so career, plus multiple distances, could be messy. But we will see I guess. Krazytea(talk) 23:46, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Someone has already listed all of the World Cup results for Catriona Le May Doan. So if we want to see an example of what a 6 year career can do for the clutter factor we can look there, results would get amplified for multi-distance skaters or short-track speed skaters. I'm still advocating for World Cup wins only, various world cup results would be available on speed skating pages, and section could be listed as to total World Cup medal tallies, etc. That being said a list of this length would be quite fair to me, it's if it would double or triple that it could start to be unreadable. Its something to analyse anyways Krazytea(talk) 22:22, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that is a huge list. I'm still uncertain what to do about World Cup victories. I think WC wins only would be best and if anyone wants to include more, then they can summarize and write out a paragraph for that year's WC. Maybe you could make a mock-up table for reference and we can agree how it should look before going forth and adding that info. oncamera^(t) 01:00, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Here is another example under Brittany Schussler, we really have to find a single standardised results report here. Maybe we can work on a priority list ourselves, something of the like we hae already come up with. Krazytea(talk) 04:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

You're right. I work on tennis articles a lot and they use tables somewhat similar to those on Brittany Schussler to list the results. An example of a tennis article with their statistics is, Roger Federer career statistics: so maybe some ideas from there could help influence potential ways of listing results? oncamera^(t) 02:14, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

I do agree with, User:OnCamera that the ultimate kind of resultslisting should be somewhat like the statistics page of Roger Federer, but that is hard to update for every skater there is with so few wikipedians who work on speedskater-bio's. So I guess we well have to do with some lesser ones for the most of them... BTW. The statistics on Brittany Schussler needs some updating. Regards Migrant (talk) 16:05, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Your opinions and advice

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www skateresults com

I'd like to bring to this projects attention that there are currently 327 articles having external links to www skateresults com (I'm avoiding a fully functional link). This site currently contains advertisments for "girls from Ukraine" rather than actual skate results. And while I don't have anything against Ukraine, links to this site currently has to be considered as spam not in line with WP:EL. Unfortunately, this seems to mean that other references has to be found to these articles. Tomas e (talk) 21:10, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Then i'd like to add that there are some archived pages for results, speed skaters and skating arenas at the Wayback Archive.org. So if there are some who will change the link to the archived version it would be great. :-) Regards Migrant (talk) 20:56, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

I think, www.speedskatingnews.info is also a good available source (for events, riders and tracks) too. So there are 2 options (or use both). Thyalphi (talk) 19:21, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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Main focus for Speed skating part of project is ?

Main project for Speed skating is now, what ? And how do we help eachother to get better Speed skating articles ? Watching this Wikiproject from Norway ? Regards Migrant (talk) 20:56, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Are there any active Editors in this project for the time being ? I am asking again: In what part of this project are the main focus to create new articles about ? Regards Migrant (talk) 00:14, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Like any Wiki project page it is always about upgrading page quality, creating pages of new speed skaters and working on international competition pages. While additionally it works as a way to negotiate dilemmas and debates between different standards such as issues in infoboxes. Thats my opinion anyways. Krazytea(talk) 02:56, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Don't know what the main focus is. It's currently somewhat off-season, but I suppose the ISU World Cup coming up in November and the Winter Olympics in February could be something worth looking into, if you're thinking of contributing. I see that you're from Norway (greitt!). Maybe you could check World Cup articles from previous seasons, and see if there are some Norwegian speed skater bios that could be created or expanded. HandsomeFella (talk) 14:16, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Zamboni

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"Zamboni" and ice resurfacer

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Page renaming

Hello project.

I'd like rename a few pages, because the current names seem to be a bit clunky to me, but before getting overly bold, I thought I'd drop you a note.

Among other things, the "ISU" part is missing on the pages on the various distances and events.

For the ISU Speed Skating World Cup various distance pages, I'd like to rename the subpages along these lines:

• 2008–09 Speed Skating World Cup/100 m Men -> 2008–09 ISU Speed Skating World Cup – Men's 100 meters
• 2008–09 Speed Skating World Cup/5000&10.000 m Men -> 2008–09 ISU Speed Skating World Cup – Men's 5000 and 10000 meters
• 2008–09 Speed Skating World Cup/Team Pursuit Men -> 2008–09 ISU Speed Skating World Cup – Men's team pursuit

etc

For the various events over the season, I welcome alternate suggestions to this one:

• 2008–09 Speed Skating World Cup/World Cup 1 -> 2008–09 ISU Speed Skating World Cup – Event 1

etc

An alternative:

• 2008–09 Speed Skating World Cup/World Cup 1 -> 2008–09 ISU Speed Skating World Cup – Competition 1

What say you?

HandsomeFella (talk) 21:13, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

I have now requested a multi-page-move at WP:RM. You can join the discussion at Talk:2008–09 Speed Skating World Cup/100 m Men. HandsomeFella (talk) 15:42, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Request for input

Hi.

I need input on how to name the pages on the various race weekends in the ISU Speed Skating World Cup. I have renamed the distance/event pages according to the above, but I'm a little unsure how to name the race weekend pages. There are a couple of alternatives:

• 20xx–yy ISU Speed Skating World Cup – Competition 1 – currently used for the 2008–09 season articles,
• 20xx–yy ISU Speed Skating World Cup – Weekend 1,
• 20xx–yy ISU Speed Skating World Cup – World Cup 1 – currently used for the 2009–10 season articles.

We need uniformity. Which is best? Other suggestions?

HandsomeFella (talk) 20:40, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I think (and hope): 3th option. (World Cup 1, etc.) Thyalphi (talk) 11:41, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree that the third option is the best. This is also how the Biathlon pages are named. And individual (weekend) events are very commonly referred to as World Cups. World Cup is used both to mean a specific event and the collection of events. Ravendrop 16:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Great. I will wait for more input for another couple of days, but it will most probably be option 3. Thanks. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:41, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. HandsomeFella (talk) 15:50, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Ps. Note that the early editions of the World Cup seasons, there were separate world cup weekends because of different arenas for ladies and men but with the same world cup weekend number, see this page for world cup season 1987/88. And I would say that it would be more correct to put these articles apart since it was two events that was held at two different places. Regards Migrant (talk) 19:23, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. HandsomeFella (talk) 17:08, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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Korean speedskaters up for mass renaming

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Nation pages

Hi all, a while ago I started creating the nation pages for the 2015 World Single Distance Championships pages. I now changed the pages that also the results of the Sprint WC are listed and the Alround results can be listed. See 2015 World Single Distance Speed Skating Championships#Participating nations and 2015 World Sprint Speed Skating Championships#Participating nations. Please say if you think that this is the good way to do it. Any comments are welcome. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 09:00, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, by the look of the article that has been added together as one. What about changing the article to a yearly season article per country in speed skating which contain the same headings as now but also includes the national teams in speed skating, national championships and national cups and maybe also deaths and births of the speed skaters of the respective country. Regards Migrant (talk) 19:13, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Migrant, yes I merged the articles, because I think nations pages about the Sprint and Allround world championships are a bit to much as there are only 2 events per championships. I think what you say to create country pages would be a good idea. What do you think the title must become? Something like NATION in (during?) the 2014-15 speed skating season? Thank you for your reply, Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 17:21, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

For me your article-name suggestion with in is suitable for me, but i must say that I am extremely little active in this wikipedia-language, so i'll leave the deciding to other speedskating-wikipedian who is more active here than me. Ps1. Other thing to include in that article is new national records and maybe elections of the national related Speed skating main association like KNSB in Holland, NSA in Norway, DSU in Denmark and so on. Ps2. I am working mostly in NO:WPs little bit bigger project which also includes : figure skating, short track speed skating, roller skating/inline and roller derby skating + these sports referees at international championships and national and international organisationleaders. Regards Migrant (talk) 23:36, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Speed skating at the 2022 Winter Olympics for deletion

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New Wikidata-property for Speed Skaters just made

Hello, I just got confirmed that a Suggestion for Speedskatingbase.eu ID got through as a new wikidata-property as number Speedskatingbase.eu ID. It is for mostly all notable speed skaters and it includes personal best times, birth date and gender, allthough there could be some few errors as it is in other large databases too. Good luck in using the property for the best use in your wikipedia, since I mostly do my edits on the norwegian bokmål-version, I don't know how you will use it here. Best regards Migrant (talk) 00:40, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Long track naming

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In the absence of any progress on the article name, I've put the category hierarchy up for renaming at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 March 31 Le Deluge (talk) 00:25, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Categorsing long track and short track

Can anyone help me figure out how to structure the category relationship between short-track and long-track speed skating? I am new to this topic, and have found myself a bit confused while populating the by-nationality subcats of Category:Male speed skaters and Category:Female speed skaters.

The head article speed skating covers both. There are separate sub-articles for long track speed skating and short track speed skating.

The current category setup has Category:Speed skating, covering all the long track speed skating stuff: players, competitions, etc.

We also have Category:Short track speed skating, covering short track speed skating: players, competitions, etc.

It seems to me that there are two ways of looking at this:

1. Short-track and long-track are separate sports, and should be categorised separately
2. Short-track is a variant of the older long-track form, and should be treated as a sub-topic

The current categories reflect a hybrid of the two approaches. Some aspects of short-track are sub-categories of speed-skating, but others are not. I am happy to work with either approach, but hope that a consensus can reached on which route to follow.

Thanks! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:07, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

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TfD – Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 April 6#Template:Footer Olympic Champions Women's mass start

Hello, there are a couple of templates up for discussion regarding mass start events in speed skating at the Winter Olympics. Feel like commenting on it ? Best regards Migrant (talk) 03:56, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

RM: Ice resurfacer

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Short track 3000m Superfinal

I guess 3000m Superfinal event at the World, European and Four Continents Championships is non-medal event used only for overall classification (see Special Regulations & Rules - International Skating Union Rule 281.5.a, 285.5.a). Almagestas (talk) 11:45, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Four Continents Championships

This year, the ISU has organized a Four Continents Championships in long track and short track speed skating for the first time. I have created items for these on Dutch Wikipedia and WikiData:

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• d:Four Continents Speed Skating Championships 2020 (Q84079894) and nl:Viercontinentenkampioenschappen schaatsen 2020
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• d:Four Continents Short Track Speed Skating Championships 2020 (Q83494655) and nl:Viercontinentenkampioenschappen shorttrack 2020

Since the ISU has organized the Four Continents Figure Skating Championships for over twenty years, that championship is more well known (for example: Four Continents Championships links to Four Continents Figure Skating Championships). I guess either the links must be changed or some form of Template:About can be used as soon as the articles are written on English Wikipedia as well? - FakirNL (talk) 13:15, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Template:World Speed Skating Championships

Hello speed skating friends. I have a little problem with this Template:World Speed Skating Championships. Since it really doesn't show properly the difference in the organizing of the championships from 2020 and onwards since it is either a combined sprint together with combined allround or a single distance with teamcompetition championships. And then there are the team sprint-competition which are moving from the single distance championships to the combined sprint and combined allround-edition since these two variants are being arranged biannually. How can we make this more clear in the template ?

And since we already have listed some unofficial championships for amateurs what about the professional championships from the early days and the ISSL- and WISO-championships ? And then there are the workers world championships from pre WWII-era ? Best regards Migrant (talk) 17:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, that does sound like a problem. Are there any comparable sports templates that we can look at for inspiration about how to better organize these so that things are easier to understand?  oncamera  _{(talk page)} 20:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Cannabis and sports

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You might look into the biography of snowboarder Ross Rebagliati who won the Olympic Gold in 1998, and founder of 2 cannabis companies. Best regards Migrant (talk – contribs) 19:51, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Mistakes in ranking points

Sorry in this entry https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_skating_at_the_2022_Winter_Olympics_–_Qualification I think there’s some mistakes in the ranking points because the rules of classification says that’s one NOC can earn 3 qualified skaters in each event only if the 3 skaters are in the top 20 ranking. For example in the 500’s men we have 3 russian skaters but the third os in position 21 so he shall be not qualified. 88.17.10.75 (talk) 19:54, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

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Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:29, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports § Suggestion: Changing "Achievements and titles" order in Template:Infobox sportsperson

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports § Suggestion: Changing "Achievements and titles" order in Template:Infobox sportsperson. This invitation comes as this WikiProject's {{Infobox speed skater}} is a wrapper of {{Infobox sportsperson}}. CLalgo (talk) 10:09, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Major RfC on capitalization of all our articles

I thought this was a done deal back in this 2022 RFC but obviously not. A handful of editors did another rfc with no sports projects input at all. And it's being challenged because we just noticed it. This could affect almost every single tennis and Olympic article we have, and goodness know how many other sports. Some may have already been moved it you weren't watching the article. And not just the article titles will be affected but all the player bios that link to the articles. Sure the links would be piped to the right place if thousands of articles moved, but if the wording in a bio still said 2023 Wimbledon Championships – Men's singles or Swimming at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Men's 200 metre backstroke that would likely need to be changed by hand. There is also talk of removing the ndash completely.

Perhaps this is what sports projects want and perhaps not. Either way I certainly don't want projects ill-informed as the last RfC was handled. Express your thoughts at the following rfc. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:03, 20 September 2023 (UTC)