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FCC callsigns vs. ICAO codes

User:Mseingth2133444 recently moved KPDX to KPDX-TV without consensus, saying it was to remove ambiguity with Portland International Airport (KPDX is its ICAO airport code). I moved it further to KPDX (TV) as there's no "-TV" suffix in the official callsign. I did this for another station, KASN to KASN (TV) (KASN is the ICAO code for Talladega Municipal Airport). Do you think these articles should go back to their original titles (since ICAO codes are rarely commonly used)? Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Is the airport code the only other use of the acronym? Then it can be handled with a hatnote. Both articles need to be moved back. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Going to disagree, the ICAO code would likely be used more (by pilots, etc.) instead of the FCC code which would only be known to who? Portlanders? I'll agree to moving it back if this reaches consenus. Mseingth2133444 (Did I mess up? Let me know here) 20:45, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Setting aside my annoyance about overcoverage of anything with a business license in Portland on en.wiki, the TV station>airport here, which is simply known as PDX locally without the K casually. A hatnote on top the article for channel 49 easily handles those looking for PDX, and it should be moved back to KPDX. Nate • (chatter) 21:48, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

For the general public (our audience here), the ICAO code is at best a tertiary identifier for the airport, after its name and the IATA code, whereas the call sign is the primary identifier for the broadcast facility (whether TV or radio). Hatnote on the TV station if there are only the two uses, or disambiguation page if there are more than two - that's pretty much been standard in these cases for as long as I've been around (which is way too long at this point). Mlaffs (talk) 02:46, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

What I've done is had the undiscussed move reverted. I'll then open a requested move to discuss these two. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Please link to it. Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 23:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Unless it's on the talk page. Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 23:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Fix your signature please (no redirects). Mvcg66b3r (talk) 23:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done Previously there were redirects due to a length limitation. Now can we stop discussing my signature please? Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 00:01, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

@Mseingth2133444 + @Mlaffs The reason I have not opened this discussion is because it has taken longer than an expected for an admin to move the talk pages back to the titles where they belong. Both are up for G6 housekeeping speedy deletion. I will ping you, Mseingth, when this discussion is opened. @Mvcg66b3r, there is no need to minimod, and many users have redirects in their signatures (especially if they do not maintain a separate userpage). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:59, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Mop wielded - talk page moves complete. Mlaffs (talk) 04:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Discussion now at Talk:KASN#Requested move 6 March 2024. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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