Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canadian communities/Archive
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Current issues
- Many smaller settlements in QC don't have the provincial subdivisions navbox; assessment is not complete, some lack the class rating, some lack the WPCANADA banner altogether
- Some Nova Scotia community use a different kind of infobox used in substituted (i.e. raw code) form.
Please add other outstanding tasks and issues here. Thanks. --Qyd (talk) 01:10, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Importance rating
It would be useful to establish guidelines for importance ratings - ie which levels of communities should be Top (if any), High and Mid, with the remainder presumably Low importance. PKT (talk) 17:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- The criteria is defined at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canadian_communities/Assessment. I disagree with the low importance for all neighbourhoods, because some of them are well-known. The problem occurs that, since this is coordinated with WikiProject Canada, any rating set here will also be observed by the parent WikiProject, which isn't quite right. Mindmatrix 18:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, the importance rating is WPCANADA wide. What I rated so far is top for the national capital, high for the provincial/territorial capitals and other large cities that form metropolitan areas, mid for all incorporated settlements, and low for the rest. --Qyd (talk) 19:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
History and Demographics
A worthwhile thing to mention is that when new census data becomes aviable the old data is still useful and should be kept as well. That is how we observe demographic patterns over time, and because it easy to do for us it is a major advantage over other sources people might look at. Kevlar67 (talk) 22:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
List of Canadian provinces' largest cities
Hello. Wikipedia:Unreferenced articles needs your help. List of Canadian provinces' largest cities has been lacking references since June, 2006. Could you please take a minute out of your busy day to help add sources? Thanks for your time. Viriditas (talk) 13:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Montreal
Thought you might like to know that Wikipedia:WikiProject Montreal has been created. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Redlinks
In order to facilitate either bot assistance or a coordinated project to get them finished, I've begun compiling a list of all Canadian municipalities which don't yet have articles on Wikipedia. The list isn't complete yet, but can be viewed and added to at Wikipedia:Canadian wikipedians' notice board/Municipalities. Note that this is only for incorporated municipalities at this time; unincorporated communities need to be dealt with separately because they present a very different set of considerations. Bearcat (talk) 18:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Valleys as communities
In making edits to Slocan Valley just now, I found myself wanting to add the community switch to the template there, knowing what the place is like, i.e. a fairly choesive rurual/valley community of several towns and smaller localities; not all valley articles will fall into this, but I'm thinking that some definitely qualify as "communities"; Cowichan Valley comes to mind in this light also, plus Bella Coola Valley. Not many, and many that are either larger regions (Fraser Valley and Okanagan, but it's the "little valleys" I'm thinking of. I guess they're only regions but some seem worthwhile to add to this project because of their "community nature".....Skookum1 (talk) 12:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Second thoughts on Bella Coola Valley - I'll make that a category within Central Coast of British Columbia; no real need for a separate article as such. "Greater Bella Coola" though includes Tallheo and so on though..which aren't in the valley per se...Skookum1 (talk) 17:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Hazelton, British Columbia and sundry
Needs split; this currently combines the Village of Hazelton, the District of New Hazelton, the old location and current Gitxsan community of Old Hazelton/Gitanmaax plus various satellite communities. Some inherently involve clusters of articles - e.g. Kitwanga, Kitwanga Fort, Kitwanga Mountain Park, or Hagwilget, Hagwilget Canyon and Hagwilget Canyon Suspension Bridge (about two bridges but can be one article) and in all cases separate articles for the band governments (usually called "Hereditary Chiefs Office" locally; in a grey area between Indian Act govts and traditional govts - see what I did for Gitanyow and Gitxsan Nation. Another issue derived from the Hazelton area issues is whetehr or not to include FN reserves articles as part of the communities WikiProject - I'd say so, huh? In most cases the actual IR doesn't need its own article, at least not in this area; different with Skwxwu7mesh and other peopls where a single band/nation has several reserves; much more redundant with Pavilion where only two reserves are involed (I mention it because there's been an IR stub there for a long time); IRs as pieces of surveyed property do hve histories of their own, separate from the band/people/govt though - when created, when/why altered, who runs it, etc., so it's less claear to me than the ethno/govt/community distinction that is usual/guideilned for indigenous articles. Anyway, help with sorting out Hazelton and similar areas would be appreciated; and as in the inline comment local maps of many places are de rigeur - location maps using RD boundaries are pretty well pointless, too; nobody perceives the BC landscape according to those boundaries ;better to use a terrain or highway map, I'd say (e.g. see Stikine River for a sample, although i think user:Qyd is familair enough with those and I may have found them through him/her). Oh, another article that's bugged me for a while is where Port Simpson, British Columbia redirects to - Lax Kw'alaams, British Columbia - as I think it has a separate identity from the FN-only content of Lax Kwalaams, although ultimately they're the same palce; but in the same way that Eslha7an and North Vancouver are the same, maybe....??Skookum1 (talk) 17:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh one otehr thing, just to note that the choice of spellings for Kitwanga and Hagwilget are based on "official" names in BCGNIS; "preferred" FN spellings are Gitwangak and Hagwilgyet and there are other cases around the province; the Xeni Gwet'in use the "Nemiah" spelling for Nemaiah Valley, British Columbia, which I just moved to reflect the BCGNIS spelling (it had been "Nemaia" based on a German-hosted FN site....).Skookum1 (talk) 17:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
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Catnames in BC need changing
Please see Category talk:Settlements in British Columbia by regional district.Skookum1 (talk) 18:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
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Featured Article Drive
A new Featured article drive is being proposed here which hopes to produce WP:FAC articles for the 25 largest cities in the United States. It would be nice to add a separate section for the top 25 Canadian communities... see how the Canadian city assessment classes rate. This is how the US city assessment classes rank and was the basis for the formation of the aforementioned drive. SriMesh | talk 01:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Infobox population figures
I just made some changes to the Sḵwxwú7mesh section on Squamish, British Columbia about Indian Reserve populations within municipal boundaries not being part of municipal governance; this should be boilerplate on all town articles with in-town reserve populations. But it got me to thinking, as I also realized a while ago with regional districts as census areas, is that First Nations populations and communities are counted separately, and so need to be combined in order to get on-the-ground demographic-reality figures. So the infoboxes should have a population line for "non-municipal populations" and/or "Indian Reserve populations" and/or "population of adjoining rural/unincorporated areas" etc....in Campbell River not only is there the Campbell River Indian Reserve (whatevr its numbers is, 1A I think) but also Campbellton, a patch of non-municipal land smack dab in the centre of the city (a rare case, granted). But also in places like Westside there's a lot of non-natives living on the Westbank Indian Reserve in new developments, likewise on other reserves; how they're counted in StatsCan I'm curious but I'd imagine thyr'e in teh municipal census; but as reserve residents they're not reisdents of the municipality and so don't vote (as they pay no municipal taxes). Not sure how it works with Park Royal, I know the legalities are complicated...legalities aside, I'm just concerned that town/district articles/infoboxes, and unincorporated community articles (and those pesky Electoral Area articles), especially ones where there's an overlap between reserves and the community (e.g. Pavilion, Alkali Lake, Seton Portage, D'Arcy and many many more) that the combined populations are shown; the Squamish, British Columbia article is primarly about ht District of Squamish as a municipality; but as an article about the place (and not just hte municipality) it should have data that represents the full population/demographic, not just the municipal one...."Greater Squamish", "Greater Lillooet", "Greater Vernon", "Greater Penticton" include the reserves and in some cases non-native areas not in the municipality (Texas Creek and Fountain and Yalakom in Lillooet, and used to be Hop Farm and East Lillooet and Seton Beach too, though those are now municipal lands; I'm sure the same applies around Salmon Arm, Smithers, and certaily Hazelton (the Hazelton, British Columbia article author atttempted to grapple with the multiplicity of the place....). Also in the same light there's a lot of cases where the reserve(s) and the locality/settlement should be a combined article, e.g. Nimpo Lake, British Columbia, as the outside world sees such places as one, not two, though in governance they are two....Skookum1 (talk) 01:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Renaming of "Communities in such-and-so regional district" cats
Note bulk renaming proposal for subcats of Category:Settlements in British Columbia by regional district. Se Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_November_20#Category:Settlements_in_British_Columbia_by_regional_district. Similar nomination coming for "people from RD" cats...Skookum1 (talk) 17:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
2006 Census re 2007 changes to Regional Districts
I've tagged Central Okanagan Regional District with this project's switch, and will proceed to apply it to the other regional districts; regional districts are meta-municipalities and the articles are largely a listing of the communities within them and the RD's services and sub-bodies; I wondered about also adding "government" switches but municipalities don't get those; maybe lists of mayors do I'm not sure. The issue I'm raising in this section maybe is better addressed on teh main WP:Canada or WP:BC discussions page, but I'll leave notices there about this discussion, which needs some attnetion I think. In making some fixes to Central Okanagan Regional District last night and exploring its subpages, there are some incongruities between the 2006 census figures and the revision of both municipal and regional district boundaries as of Dec 1 2007; namely some kind of adjustment to Central Okanagan Regional District Electoral Area J has taken place, with much of that very populous EA's population now part of the District Municipality of Westside....exactly how much, the EA article doesn't say and waht the exact boundary changes were are not stated. Needless to say this skews the population figures for Westside which are only those from 2006, although an increase mentioned in the lede (mis-dated to 2005, obviously 2007 is meant I think so I'll fix it to that, temporarily if tha'ts wrong and 2008 is meant, from what source I don't know)...the increase, though, isn't the same or anywhere near the size of that in the EA article, so I'm not sure what to think. Also, the Westbank Indian Reserve, which is the Tsept**kum 9 and 10 IRs (not sure how to spell that so abbreviating it) includes 7000 non-natives and there is some reference on the Westside article to them (see next section about IR populations in "metro" agglomerations). Another post-census revision, which I fixed, or tried to, was on Stikine Region, which had an EA in it, namely "Greater Dease Lake", that is now part of the Regional District of Kitimat-Stikine; I'm not sure if Kitimat-Stikine's figures have been accordingly adjusted and I'm not happy with my own fixes to the Stikine Region article (Stikine Region is now more mis-named than ever, as its territory now has nothing anywhere near the Stikine River as a result of the changes, but that's the government's fault not ours; the bulk of the region's population now wouls seem to be in Atlin..... I gather that there must be other RD revisions around, including the creation of hte Stratchona Regional District, but probably boundary changes and also amalgamations of EAs with nearby municipalities.....so municipal and regional district articles alike probably need a task-force or "OCD Warrior" revision effort....one thing I do know is that municipal population histories often don't have to do with actual population growht, but with incorporation of EAs into municipalities; the Village of Lillooet was once only the core area of Lillooet; now as the District of Lillooet it includes large areas around the town which were almost as populous as the town itself, so the rise in population there, if charted, has to do with that; further the actual population of the place is not represented by only the District's census figures, as the surrounding IRs are nearly as populous, which brings me to the next section. For now, re this section, all the RD sites should be gone through and tweaked re any changes made in the revisions of Dec 2007....I found out about Dease Lake via its entry in BCGNIS; RDCO Area J I found out about through the Area J article.....so somebody who likes poking around census tables has got their work cut out for them.....Skookum1 (talk) 13:35, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
"The Hazeltons" split proposed for Hazelton and census issues
Please see Talk:Hazelton,_British_Columbia#The_Hazeltons_.3D_name_change_proposed. I'll be back later with a section on "Census apartheid" once I compile some example figures.Skookum1 (talk) 18:20, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
District of Stewart, British Columbia needs infobox etc.
Stewart is listed in the district municipalities section of the {{Subdivisions of British Columbia}} template, but it has no infobox; I'm presuming the template is correct so mentioned it as a district on Regional District of Kitimat-Stikine, I'll see if I can find the municipal site, what's on the page so far are mostly local hobby and chamber of commerce sites.....Skookum1 (talk) 15:12, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Regional District map needs amendment
It's actual titled "Census Subdivisions" but it's a map of regional district boundaries. On Dec 1 2007 the Dease Lake area was added to the Regional District of Kitimat-Stikine and taken out of the Stikine Region (which now is totally misnamed as it doesn't touch the Stikine River...but that's the government's problem, not ours). I'm not sure of the corrected boundary, I'm gonna check th RDKS site to see if their own maps are updated; I suspect the new boudnary is probably the remainder of the 58th Parallel, which forms the divide between the Northern Rockies and Peace River RDs on teh east and Kitimat-Stikine and the Stikine-Region on the west, in which case it's arealatively easy fix. User:Qyd who made the map isn't around lately so maybe someone else who knows how to make/fix maps could take this on, please?Skookum1 (talk) 15:12, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Use of RD maps as location maps
I've opposed the use of these for a long time, but now a new phase in the mis-use of regional districts-as-if-they-were-counties has reared its head; I'd already seen it on Abbotsford,'s article, now I've come across it twicxe today, on Williams Lake and on Fort Steele. The whole RD in each case is highlighted, giving the mistakenh impression that the hgihlighted area is the town; nobody in BC even thinks in terms of RDs unless they need a building permit, or work for an RD, or are on a city council, they are not adequate as a regional breakdown system anyway. But using ugly highlights on them on articles that don't even have to do with them is just bunk. The map that shoudl be used is either a highway map, which is familiar to most readers, or a terrain map. The RD boundaries are obscure and irrelevant to start with; but highlighting them on town pages gives them an undue importance. It's time to end it. Wikipedia should not create or influence reality, it should only reflect it.Skookum1 (talk) 20:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Georgina, Ontario -> Georgina
Georgina, Ontario has been listed at WP:RM to be renamed as Georgina, see Talk:Georgina, Ontario. 76.66.193.90 (talk) 05:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Lists of smalltown mayors
Something occurred to me while checking an edit tonight, as the redlink account/SPA seems associated with the town's marketing branch/contractee, and while this was an inncoent-change-of-mayor edit, it occured to me that the deleted information re the former mayor had a point of interest....typically town pages list only the current mayor; only in a few cases are their political histories of the "settlement" (Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg etc.). What I'm pondering is that maybe it should be de rigeur for town/settlement articles to ideally have the whole list of mayors or reeves since incorporation, at elast as a list/table. Maybe the better place for this discussion is in the political parties and politicians subgroup, so I'll crosspost this there. Wikipedia pages aren't supposed to be info brochures for the curent government, and onliy about the current govenrment. Historical mayors, at least, if not councils as a whole, is what's expected at the encyclopedic level, I think....Skookum1 (talk) 02:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- When you can find a reliable source for the information, a list of previous mayors is certainly valid content. PKT(alk) 18:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- I know that such lists exist for some Ontario townships, but I can't recall which ones right now. This is certainly useful to have, but finding sources is difficult, especially when some small municipal libraries, assuming they exist, retain local paper archives for short periods only. The info should exist in the town/village article until it becomes too long, at which time it could be split to a Politics of... article. Mindmatrix 19:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hope, British Columbia and others - brochurism
I just made a series of edits to the Hope article, some historical/geographical corrections (resulting from info copied over from badly written/researched "local copy", some maybe copyvio), but also stuff like "charter bus service is available" followed by a footnote naming a specific company, as well as the obvious "Greyhound bus service to and from Vancouver" sort of stuff. One section on "Government" (now gone "poof!") simply reported that it was a district municipality (already in the lede) and that it was part of BC "in the country of Canada". Well formatted otherwise, a lot of it's dross. And I know tons of other town/community articles fall in the same category - somewhere between tourism brochure and Chamber of Commerce/civic "plug". What's the best tag to put on stuff like this? I used "cleanup" indicating it needs a good broom-sweeping of fluff. I don't have the time to take part in a cross-country workgroup/focus group to deal with all the similar content. but all too often communities (and companies and enviro-organizations and First Nations) are starting to use Wikipedia like a Facebook page, and lots and lots have copyvio and peacock issues. What to do?Skookum1 (talk) 13:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I just found out on Fort Nelson, British Columbia that the Northern Rockies Regional District is now the Northern Rockies Regional Municipality - a first for BC - and that it is in effect an amalgamation of the former Town of Fort Nelson with the formerly unincorporated areas of teh whole regional district (except, of course, the Indian Reserves and Provincial Parks). fort Nelson remains a small-t- town but is no longer a chartered town, so the question is also how to treat/classify its article; whether or not this regional municipality is the country's largest now I'm not sure; other fixes to its article rather than the basid ones I made to its lede are needed.Skookum1 (talk) 15:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Guidelines
I see you've developed a guideline for Canadian cities in this group. You might also be interested in Wikiproject Cities guideline for US cities. Much of the material there may also be applicable since many of the cities in both countries are fairly close together,... Dr. Cash (talk) 18:26, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Etymology section
In the guidelines to writing about cities and countries we tend to provide suggestions that information about the origin of the name / the etymology is given in the history section, and - if there is enough material - that a sub-section can be created. In usage some editors prefer that the etymology details be placed in their own section - which is fine if there is enough data to justify it, and the information may be found reasonably interesting or useful to the average reader. But the question now arises as where to place a stand alone Etymology section. I often find them placed as the first section - ahead of the History section - and there is a part of me which can see the logic of that. However, there is a greater logic in having the history section first, as that is the first section that readers would expect - it is generally what encyclopedias do, and the history always comes before the name (I suppose there may be settlements and countries which were named before they existed, but these must be very rare!). Where etymologies are usually placed in dictionaries and references books is at the end of the entry - and that may be where someone interested in the etymology may be expecting to look. There may be other options as to where to place the etymology, and it would be useful to get some opinions and revisit the guidelines to make things clearer. As a starting point, here are four suggestions:
- Etymology - details of the origin of the name should be placed in the History section; if there is sufficient material an Etymology subsection should be created within the History section. (If the subsection grows so large as to justify a standalone section, that section to be placed after/before the History section / at the end of the article.)
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- Etymology - details of the origin of the name should be placed in the History section; if there is sufficient material an Etymology section should be created and placed at the end of the article.
I will copy this to other related WikiProjects. SilkTork *YES! 10:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Mass deletion of communities in Alberta
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2010 January 9 - a whole lot of communities in Alberta have been nominated for deletion. 76.66.197.17 (talk) 07:17, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
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Olympic locales
We seem to be missing some Olympic location articles...
70.29.210.242 (talk) 05:43, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think so. Venues of the 2010 Winter Olympics has no redlinks, nor does the template for 2010 Winter Olympic venues. I'm guessing that Creekside Village and Blackcomb Village are alternate names for parts of Whistler Blackcomb, and if so they could be created to redirect accordingly. PKT(alk) 14:46, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
- Those aren't venues, they're Whistler neighbourhoods. The respective venues in each case are the Dave Murray Downhill Run and attached Super G/GS courses and the Sliding Centre. See next re Whistler Village.Skookum1 (talk) 18:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
- re-read the second comment above, and re-iterating that Creekside Village and Blackcomb Village are parts of the Resort Municipality of Whistler as neighbourhoods although they were originally part of the real estate holdings of the respective mountains (before their operations were merged). Creekside Village was the old parking lot for the gondola, Blackcomb Village was vacant forest land north of the daylodge and the main village (just as Whistler Village used to be the pre-RMOW garbage dump). "Whistler Creekside" refers to the whole neighbourhood, also known as Whistler Creek or, in the past, "Gondola", and includes everything between the bottom of the lifts and the rail line, i.e. not only Creekside Village. Confusion between teh ski resort and the municipality seems to be common; the ski mountain does not own the municipality, it is only part of the municipality.Skookum1 (talk) 18:50, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
- Those aren't venues, they're Whistler neighbourhoods. The respective venues in each case are the Dave Murray Downhill Run and attached Super G/GS courses and the Sliding Centre. See next re Whistler Village.Skookum1 (talk) 18:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
An IP user changed the Whistler Village redirect to Whistler Blackcomb, I changed it back since the latter is a company article and the Village is, in veritable fact, not part of the ski-mountain operations or land holdings, and is the effective downtown of Whistler municipality and as such Whistler Village should be a neighbourhood article. The rationale used by the IP editor was that the resort article has this section on the Village, which while it pertains to the development of teh resort municipality and resort amenities, is - again - not part of the resort company. I'm of a mind simply to migrate that section to replace the redirect at Whistler Village but it would need more of an intro and changed context, and the resort article would need a revised, condensed section.....the crossover between resort history and town history is intricate, as would also be the case with mining town articles and the like, but has to be made for proper categorization/description purposes; "Whistler Blackcomb" and the Resort Municipality of Whistler are not the same thing. If someone else would take this on, i.e. writing up a proper Whistler Village article and appropriate condensed sections on the resort and muni pages, that would be great; my hands are full lately, not just in wikipedia but also in real life and due to a bad internet connection lately....Skookum1 (talk) 18:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
inappropriate use of "reserves" category for non-reserve Indian communities
Please see Category_talk:First_Nations_reserves_in_British_Columbia#Use_of_this_category_on_non-reserve_locations_in_appropriate. I've been unhappy with the "First Nations reserves" name for a very long time but haven't taken this to CfD (to rename to "Indian Reserves") because of protracted discussions about whether or not "Reserve" should be fully capitalized (which IMO it should be). But also because, as re discussions about Indian Villages, Metis Settlements etc. whcih are not "reserves" (though some people might mistakenly refer to them that way).. But in BC there's a further layer of nomenclature that has to be worked out; places like Gingolx and Greenville once were Indian Reserves but now they are NOT. They are, under BC law and treaty, "Communities" and uninhabited former reserves in that area are now "sites" under the terms of the Nisga'a Treaty of 2000. Similarly the Sechelt Band's former Indian Reserves have been for a very long time Indian Government Districts (and the band now is technially the Sechelt Indian Government). So on the one hand ,there's "First Nations" as an imposed p.c.-ism, and the mis-use of "reserve' to mean places that have Indian communities (but which are not necessarily fully Indian Reserves....if the same principle in having the FN reserves category on Hazelton or Moriceville were applied across the board, then the reserves category shoudl be on Lillooet, Lytton, West Kelowna, Campbell River etc.... All this needs to be sorted out, I'm just noting it for now and don't have the stomach to argue out the capital-R or smallcase-r issue and I'm in no mood to cook up any catch-all category name right now; but I am of a mind to remove this category from articles which shouldn't have it e.g. Gingolx.....Skookum1 (talk) 14:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Tourism spam - recommend content/contributors to wikiTravel?
As we all know, tourism/promotion-type spam occurs regularly on all community articles....rather than just keep on deleting it, maybe we should have a template inviting the contributor to put the material instead on WikiTravel? I'm sure a lot of small communities are put off of Wikipedia when they see how difficult it is to add stuff important to them (i.e. letting people know what services etc are available locally, and the too-typical peacock language that's part of promotion/pride....). It also seems like a good way to encourage people to use WikiTravel....Skookum1 (talk) 14:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- WikiTravel has nothing to do with Wikimedia or any of the WMF projects... it's a formerly-independent wiki whose founders sold out to Internet Brands Inc. in a back-room deal which received strong objections from the project's userbase (to the point where the German-speaking users left to start WikiVoyage). This is therefore a for-profit commercial business and no more worthy of promotion here than any other company selling something. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 19:41, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Neighbourhood dabs in Victoria?
See Talk:Rockland,_Greater_Victoria.Skookum1 (talk) 19:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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FNs and IRs as secondary location cites
I'm puzzling over High Bar, British Columbia, which is a locality in the Fraser Canyon north of Lillooet; the only BCGNIS (and presumably BCGNIS) cites which have this name are the High Bar IRs Nos. 1, 1A and 2 (2 is somewhat downstream from the main location though part of the locality), and those IRs are the namesake of the High Bar First Nation. There is also a High Bar Canyon in this area, though its name also is not in BCGNIS but an example of the usage is to be found on this page. I could take this up with BCGNIS directly and ask them to create a locality entry, though I know they're backed up and overworked and understaffed etc. I'd like to create the locality article, using the IRs as cites, secondary if only for now, until some other reference to the locality in its non-IR sense can be found; there is no one else living at this locality, however, so these are unlikely to be found. See Talk:High Bar First Nation and answer there, maybe; there's lots of uncited settlements articles in BC, but I didn't want to add to that pile; unless I have consensus here, or on the FN talkpage, that the IR names suffice for a citation for the place....the IR articles, and the canyon entry/name, will redirect to it if so.Skookum1 (talk) 18:51, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Model Demographic Section?
Can anyone recommend city or town with a very good demographic section? I'm slowly beginning to tool up Harrison Hot Springs and would like to do a good job. - Wmcduff (talk) 13:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Important, wide reaching (multiple pages) that will create a precedence here that could use a much wider discussion. Ravendrop 19:41, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
New Editor
Hi,
There's a new editor, User:Louve101, who seems to be interested in Oakville, Ontario and has created multiple articles about the neigbourhoods of the town which are unsourced, and likely not to meet notability. I don't want to discourage enthusiasm, but there's a high likelihood that his work to date will get either redirected or deleted. I think he needs some guidance. I've left a message on his talk page. I was wondering if somebody in this wikiproject might be able to provide some guidance and steer him in the right direction. (cross-posted to WikiProject Canadian communities) Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 03:25, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Yet another potential sockpuppet of User:Toronto2503? Areas of interest appear to be similar according to contributions of User:Toronto2503 and its socks. Hwy43 (talk) 03:54, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with this. I'm guessing your project is. We can only watch and see. Cheers. -- Whpq (talk) 09:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- I'm familiar, and I see similarities. I have reported this for checkuser. PKT(alk) 12:01, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- I just looked at the edits from the other accounts. Oh my. -- Whpq (talk) 13:19, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Sockpuppet confirmed, blocked & tagged, along with one or two others! Thanks for reporting! PKT(alk) 15:39, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- I just looked at the edits from the other accounts. Oh my. -- Whpq (talk) 13:19, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- I'm familiar, and I see similarities. I have reported this for checkuser. PKT(alk) 12:01, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with this. I'm guessing your project is. We can only watch and see. Cheers. -- Whpq (talk) 09:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
External links
I just read in the WikiProject's structure guidelines that a community's "External links" section should only have an official link of the community.
Outside of this Project, I recall reading somewhere that an official link to the community's chamber of commerce is also appropriate. Is this the case?
Also, what about community profiles published by a provincial ministry?
See Whitecourt, Alberta#External links for examples of both these scenarios. Hwy43 (talk) 07:48, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
2011 census results forthcoming
I've started a discussion about the forthcoming first release of data from the Canada 2011 Census at Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board. You are invited to discuss here. Hwy43 (talk) 20:34, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
flagcons in settlement infoboxes
At present there is a discussion ongoing about putting flagcons in settlement info boxes. See: Template_talk:Infobox_settlement#flagcons_in_settlement_infoboxes --S. Rich (talk) 15:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Just Published! Could someone rate this?
Hello,
I just published an article I've been working on for a week or so, Princess Theatre, Edmonton. I believe it's in the scope of your project. Would anyone be able to go over there and rate it for me?
Requested move Sorenson's Beach, Saskatchewan to Sorensen's Beach, Saskatchewan
See discussion at Talk:Sorenson's Beach, Saskatchewan#Requested move. Hwy43 (talk) 07:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- Closed. Result was move as requested. Hwy43 (talk) 19:17, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Requested move List of Indian Reserves in British Columbia to List of Indian reserves in British Columbia
See discussion at Talk:List of Indian Reserves in British Columbia#Requested move. Hwy43 (talk) 04:39, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
- Closed. Result was move as requested. Hwy43 (talk) 19:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Requested move List of Local Service Districts in New Brunswick to List of local service districts in New Brunswick
See discussion at Talk:List of local service districts in New Brunswick#Requested move. Hwy43 (talk) 21:06, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- Closed. Result was move as requested. Hwy43 (talk) 19:55, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
List of communities in British Columbia has been proposed for deletion
See discussion here. Hwy43 (talk) 18:56, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
- Proposal was withdrawn. Result was speedy keep. Hwy43 (talk) 19:14, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
RM 2 on Stawamus (village) formerly Sta7mes
Please see both RM and RM2 on Talk:Stawamus (village). I maintain that the "(village)" dab infers a Village Municipality, though we have no cases, not in BC anyways, where it is used for that purpose; I'd moved Stawamus, now a dab page, to Stawamus (Skwxwu7mesh village) per e.g. Haina (Haida village) but it was claimed by BDD that the simpler disambiguation is preferable; I maintain it is too ambiguous and User:Dicklyon, casting an opposing vote, says Stawamus (Squamish village) would be suitable, even though I pointed out that that is ambiguous because of the PRIMARYTOPIC of "Squamish" being the town/district municipality; an argument that got me nowhere on the related RMs about this, which were all vote-bombed by people not from BC or Canada; and Canadian votes other than my own were ignored in favour of those claiming "global English" favoured the indigenous people who are correctly known as the Skwxwu7mesh. I'll leave it at that, but this is a title, as with others under review/RM, which needs Canadian input and should not be "voted" on by people who don't know anything about any of the places in question, and those who wiki-lawyer about /7/ not being acceptable in "English" titles.Skookum1 (talk) 08:45, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Comments from Canadians really needed re my points here.Skookum1 (talk) 05:19, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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