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Vittorio Ieralla
edithi, can any of you create this voice? here comes the sources:
was both president of the World Federation of the Deaf and Ente Nazionale Sordi on Italy..
thanks and good day, friends ^_^ --SURDUS(VII) 08:36, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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Expert attention
editThis is a notice about Category:Deaf articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 16:03, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Edna Simon Levine
editN'oublie pas Edna Simon Levine! --Halyna Haiko (talk) 22:29, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
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Audiology and related topics
editI'm an Australian audiologist working with both hard of hearing and Deaf people, and I've noticed that the Audiology article and its associated articles are rather terrible, and I'm looking to expand and rewrite them. I've started working on the Audiology article in my sandbox, it's a big job!
However, I feel that it's really important that anything that I put up not minimise or marginalise the Deaf community, and not fall into ableist language. I'm coming from a hearing perspective in a profession that has historically done some horrible things to people with hearing loss, and I want anything that I write to be accessible to everybody and not medicalise hearing loss too much.
So, I was hoping that someone might be willing to work with me to ensure that my language is okay as I work on these pages to improve them. Also, I was wondering what the state of any guides regarding terminology are - I'm currently using "person with a hearing loss", but it's a bit clunky.
Thanks so much!
'Deaf' capitalization in an article
editSomeone else noticed the same thing and added a comment in the article's talk page. We had both noticed several instances where the word 'Deaf' was capitalized, some more strangely than others. As the other person asked "is this political?" :-) Could y'all take a look at Bimodal bilingualism and think about what to do? I see sections here that talk about capitalization. Maybe the policy/guidelines are clearer now? Thanks. Shenme (talk) 23:40, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Merge Proposal: combine various stub articles into Dialects of American Sign Language
editHaving tried to research and expand pages on the dialects of ASL, I have found very little information that isn't already included in the stub pages Nigerian Sign Language, Ghanaian Sign Language, and Bolivian Sign Language. I think it would be more beneficial to discuss the commonalities and differences between dialects of ASL in one central page and, when more sources are available, split them out rather than to have a series of unexpandable stubs. This is largely based on WP:MERGEREASON and WP:SIZESPLIT which say: If a page is very short and is unlikely to be expanded within a reasonable amount of time, it often makes sense to merge it with a page on a broader topic and < 1 kB If an article or list has remained this size for over a couple of months, consider combining it with a related page respectively. The page, Dialects of American Sign Language would be similar to other articles like Dialects of French and Dialects of Japanese, so the article would cover all dialects (including Francophone African Sign Language and Black American Sign Language but they would be summarized and cross linked to their articles) and cover the stub articles in full. I feel like this would make them easier to maintain and improve while allowing for forking when more scholarship is available in the future. I've notified Kwamikagami, the author of and major contributor to the pages. Wugapodes (talk) 18:44, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I have no problem with a merger (you'll notice I already merged Guinean and Chadian SL), but I'd merge in Francophone SL as well, since that's also just a stub. But, I'm also not sure "dialect" is the right term, especially since few intelligibility studies have been done, and dialects might not correspond to countries. Maybe s.t. like "regional varieties of ASL" or "local varieties of ASL around the world"? — kwami (talk) 04:31, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- I think Language varieties of ASL might be good. I know that's the wording they use at Chinese language to side step the issue of language vs. dialect. I put in a request at my library for Morgan 2004 from Theoertical Issues in Sign Language Research (TISLR) 8 which attempted to construct a tree for ASLic. Hopefully that could shed some light on the issue of relatedness as well. Wugapodes (talk) 06:13, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good ref, and an improvement over what I've been using.
- No need for "language" before "varieties". Still, do the countries really correspond to varieties? — kwami (talk) 04:57, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- It seems that there's at least some lexical variation between the different varieties, and some sources talk about creolization with home signs in the various countries but I'm not sure of the extent of that. Wugapodes (talk) 15:29, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, but that presumably differs from school to school. Do all the schools in Nigeria speak a unitary variety of ASL that is distinct from that spoken by all the schools in Chad? Or is it more like Guatemalan Spanish vs Honduran Spanish, when the language doesn't change at the border? Okay as terms of convenience, but without much linguistic validity. — kwami (talk) 17:50, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'm unsure. Like I said, sources are unfortunately scarce on these topics. Bolivian Sign seems to be more different because it displaced an indigenous sign language or languages (but no one has studied the remaining signers of that language or languages). With languages of African countries, I'm less sure, but they seem to be more of an areal classification. Wugapodes (talk) 04:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, but that presumably differs from school to school. Do all the schools in Nigeria speak a unitary variety of ASL that is distinct from that spoken by all the schools in Chad? Or is it more like Guatemalan Spanish vs Honduran Spanish, when the language doesn't change at the border? Okay as terms of convenience, but without much linguistic validity. — kwami (talk) 17:50, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- It seems that there's at least some lexical variation between the different varieties, and some sources talk about creolization with home signs in the various countries but I'm not sure of the extent of that. Wugapodes (talk) 15:29, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose - Different items: different language codes, different references, different number of users, different articles in other Wikipedia, different items in Wikidata. Merging will make proper working more difficult. Each language variety that has an ISO 639-3 code should have at least one article. Eldizzino (talk) 00:43, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- While the language codes may be different, there isn't much consensus as to whether they are remarkably different and language codes are slightly arbitrary in that they can be politically biased without regard for the linguistic differences between varieties. And for two of the three articles proposed (Nigerian and Ghanaian), the only sources are Ethnologue 18 and Glottologue which are only slightly better than verification that the language variety exists. I looked at the interlanguage articles and none of them are more than 5 sentences and seem to cite similar sources, and they may have different inclusion policies than English Wikipedia. I guess I'm asking for a more detailed explanation of why they should remain seperate. I'm unfamiliar with Wikidata, is it unable to handle redirects? How would it make "proper working more difficult"? Wugapodes (talk) 04:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - Perhaps a better destination title might be something like American Sign Language family (currently a redirect), in the vein of French Sign Language family... but then ASL is part of the LSF family so I don't know if it'd be good to make the title I just proposed or to flesh out/merge to the French SL article. I'm not sure if I'm for or against, but the "best" option that I'm leaning to here is what I just suggested—fleshing out the LSF family article, perhaps detailing the connections between the languages if possible (things like ASL having 60% intelligibility with LSF—found in the book "Journey into the Deaf-World" and probably cited to somewhere else in there—or (though all I know is OR on this) extremely high mutual intelligibility of ASL and Ghana SL)—it seems smarter than just merging the group into one article, and it could accommodate short blurbs for established articles and information about the shared characteristics of the languages, which would push that article into more informative space than just a list of languages. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:31, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- So I saw this was already done but not announced, at Varieties of American Sign Language. I still like my proposal idea, so I'll keep it here for interested eyes, but... yeah. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:33, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
What do you think of this sandbox article?
editDeaf civil rights movement. What should be added? I would like to note I copied some material from Deaf American. Clr324 (say hi) 20:14, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- What coverage are you able to add that would be significantly different from Deaf American or Disability rights movement? Will coverage consider perspectives and experiences outside of the United States, or would Deaf civil rights movements in the United States be more accurate for what you intend to cover? These are things I think should be considered before starting a new article as opposed to improving another existing one and are the kinds of questions that should guide your content expansion.
- That being said, with regards to your plans to expand, I'd definitely consider looking for more sources as those will be the backbone of your expansion. A quick JSTOR search shows some interesting and promising articles such as "Effective Deaf Action in the Deaf Community of Uruguay" that would add a non-United States perspective. "Seeing by Touch, Hearing by Sign" from The Disability Rights Movement which itself seems to be a very promising book. If you don't have JSTOR access, you can ask a wikilibrarian for help at WP:RX. Your local library may also be able to help you get access either to a physical copy or through library access to JSTOR. Depending on how busy I am I may be able to help out with the article as well; I'll add it to my list. Hope that helped. Wugapodes (talk) 20:37, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- My institution doesn't have access to the books I mentioned here unfortunately. My local library does according to WorldCat, so I'll see when I have time to go and get it. Wugapodes (talk) 02:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- I do intend for the article to be international. The page is supposed to the Deaf version of autism rights movement. I don't have JSTOR access. Thanks for the info! Clr324 (say hi) 23:17, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Please edit this page, it is my sandbox but I give everyone permission to constructively edit it. I want to get this to namespace quickly and have it translated into the Wikipedia of other languages (especially into the American Sign Language Wikipedia that is in beta stages). Clr324 (say hi) 00:59, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Terminology question
editWould a person with mild hearing loss, who can understand speech unaided most of the time and isn't part of Deaf culture be considered hearing. According to the Manual of Style, no, such a person would be hard of hearing. What does WikiProject Deaf think? Do we have our own style guide and if not, should we?
Someone who is hard of hearing has hearing loss but is not completely incapable of hearing.
Andrea Carter (at your service | my evil deads) 12:06, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- Is this a hypothetical or real person? I'd default to HOH (or "has a mild hearing loss" could be even better, to avoid jumping to any conclusion) for someone like that, myself, unless they identify as hearing individually. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hypothetical of course. I would never ask questions about real, non-notable people here. Andrea Carter (at your service | my good deeds) 09:14, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Anybody willing to help in Spanish, please?
editHi there. I happen to be a translator by profession and I also am a relative of a Uruguayan deaf person. Today I found out that there was no Spanish equivalent of this project. Anybody willing to give a helping hand? Then, please, go ahead to es:Usuario:Fadesga/Wikiproyecto:Sordera. Thank you, ¡gracias, chau! --Fadesga (talk) 23:21, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- The Spanish version of this project is now active: es:Wikiproyecto:Sordera. Anybody wishing to join and share? --Fadesga (talk) 12:25, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Input requested at Black American Sign Language FAC
editThe article Black American Sign Language is currently a featured article candidate. The review needs more input from the community as to whether it meets the featured article criteria, particularly, it needs at least one willing editor to review sources for close paraphrasing and copyright violations. If you would like to give input, please leave a comment on the review page. To learn more about reviewing FA candidates, see the FAQ. Thanks. Wugapodes (talk) 05:48, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Written ASL
editI started a wikibook on the most used ASL writing and notational systems[1]. Thought some folks here might be interested in checking it out.
Labels in sign languages on wikidata
editFYI d:Wikidata:Project_chat#How_to_add_labels_in_sign_languages_.3F--Alexmar983 (talk) 06:11, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Teaching sign language to non-humans
editI would appreciate any comments at Talk:Sign language#The lead: teaching sign language to non-humans. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 19:13, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Rename project to broader term
editWondering if we should rename this project to the broader term "Hearing health"?
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:26, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
I recently created an article with this title.Because there weren't any Deaflympics related articles about relating to Nations. I created this article because USA is the most popular team in Deaflympics history.If I had made any mistakes I will apologies for it and let me know.Abishe (talk) 12:11, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Nations at Deaflympics
editI have created these articles with relevant to deafness,relating to a particular nation at Deaflympics.These articles also categorised under disability.These articles are stub classed and needed to be improved. Abishe (talk) 11:22, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Women, disability, and Deaf culture
editHi, I'm an editor active in the Women in Red WikiProject. I recently read an article by a Deaf author, Sara Nović, who I think should have a Wikipedia article. But considering her stance on Deaf culture, I don't know if an article on her would be appropriate to include in this month's Women and Disability edit-a-thon. Thoughts, particularly from any Deaf editors? Funcrunch (talk) 14:50, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
AfD
editEditors here might be interested in WP:Articles for deletion/Absent referent (2nd nomination). –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:30, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of PhoneCaption.com
editI have proposed deletion of the article PhoneCaption.com. The article appears to fail notability criteria at WP:WEBCRIT. Its sole source is currently a nearly-blank page on subject's own domain. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 10:25, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Hearing loss listed at Requested moves
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AFD notification
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Another AFD
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Need feedback
editPlease chime in at Talk:Hearing#Add new section. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:01, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Article on books for children with D/deaf characters
editHi, There is an attempt at improving this article that in my Sandbox, if anyone wants to review it then I'd be most grateful. Ano34 (talk) 09:02, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
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Hearing loss listed at Requested moves
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URGENT Video captions requested
editCommons:Category:Videos needing subtitles is very important for equality, quality and to understand videos by deaf and hear-impaired people. --BoldLuis (talk) 18:28, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
dear wikifriends how are you?? I have a question: is Mondaze TV an encyclopedic item to be created according to your criteria or is it not encyclopedic?? --SURDUSVII 17:41, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Anyone able to help translate some American Sign Language to English?
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A relisted AFD needs attention
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Please check a style advice page
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Hello. I just wanted to post a note that a new article has been published at DeafSpace. I found the topic pretty interesting, but I came here in case people have some ideas on how to better integrate the article into the encyclopedia with links going into the new page. I only came up with two from some possible backlink searches of existing text, but if anyone that is more of an expert in this area has ideas on pages that can have text added, that would be appreciated! Regards, 2pou (talk) 22:54, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
BSL Lives Task Force
editHi all! I have started a project called BSL Lives, with the aim to include more biographies of British deaf people on Wikipedia. So far, 10 have been approved and published, and another 12 drafted (you can find them looking for the category "BSL users"). I would like to increase the visibility of the project on Wikipedia and to recruit some help. Do you think setting up a specific task force would be appropriate? Thanks! Best, Esamiarum (talk) 13:19, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Greetings Esamiarum, I see there's also the campaign on twitter https://twitter.com/BSL_lives which is lovely to see (is that also you?). I'm glad to see many of your new article drafts are being approved through the 'articles for creation' process. It can be quite a gauntlet sometimes... I do notice that two were rejected:
- I don't suppose anyone else from this Wikiproject, or Wikipedia:Women in Red are interested in trying to rescue those ones? (I'll ping WiR and the Chapter WM-UK on twitter about this project in general too). Wittylama 14:39, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- I reckon Lawson's OBE, honorary degree, and major research contributions add up to notability so have moved her to mainspace and done a bit more work on the article. PamD 21:51, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- I picked up the other one - super interesting! I've not put the template on for this project (or anything else you might need) as I'd never heard of it til today, so you might want to check! So interesting and such important work to do :) Happy editing Lajmmoore (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Capitalization of Deaf People and Deaf Culture
editWhen I was taking a few semesters of ASL, my professors were very insistent that the "D" in deaf should only ever be lowercase if it is referring to the condition of being deaf. They said in all other cases one would be referring to Deaf people and Deaf culture which should be capitalized on account of describing a group of people; this would be similar to saying "American people" or "Black people." My question here is if those rules should apply to the articles in this project because I have seen capitalization like that but only occasionally. Heather Lipsky (talk) 05:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Merge discussion at AfD
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Profoundly
editIs there a specific meaning to "Profoundly Deaf" as opposed to "Deaf"?Naraht (talk) 08:04, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Mutual intelligibility: sign languages
editHi, the article Mutual intelligibility only includes information about spoken languages, but does not mention anything about sign languages at all. I don't have any knowledge about the subject, but think it's important. Maybe someone wants to add a paragrah about sign languages? --217.149.171.189 (talk) 02:30, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it would be a good idea to have a brief mention. In brief, mutual intelligibility among sign languages follows the same pattern as among spoken languages: when one is a dialect of, or derived from another, the more recent, generally the more intelligible; when there isn't such a relationship, they are not mutually intelligible. Example: American Sign Language and British Sign Language are mutually unintelligible, but ASL and French Sign Language have a certain amount of mutual comprehensibility (I'd say around 30% or so) because ASL was partly developed from FSL in the early 19th century. Mathglot (talk) 09:18, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
The Deaf Barnstar
editIntroducing the Deaf Barnstar. Judekkan (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- What does the sign on the top card mean?Naraht (talk) 13:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don’t know. The icon I took from Template:User WP Deaf. Judekkan (talk) 13:36, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like the user template first got that symbol from a change by SurdusVII. It may be from Italian SL, but OTOH, given that American Sign Language and British Sign Language are mutually unintelligible, I'm not sure that there is any single handsign that would make sense for all Sign Languages in places where the English Language is used. (and given the fact that it is a static image, where signs move) Any ideas?Naraht (talk) 14:53, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- hello, wikifriend, how are you?? congratulations to the new graph.. it's beautiful!!! yes, it is the symbol of sign languages and the Deaf culture.. ^__^ thanks @Judekkan and @Naraht ^__^ SURDUSVII 15:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- SurdusVIICan you show whereelse it has been used as a symbol?Naraht (talk) 15:24, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- sorry, in what sense?? SURDUSVII 15:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- SurdusVII. So more clearly, why *these* handshapes in the image rather than a different one?Naraht (talk) 16:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- I did not understand: what is the problem??
- two hands with three fingers in a moving sense is the symbolic of sign languages because it is a visual language, which you could read in the item of the topic which is written in detail.. SURDUSVII 16:09, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- SurdusVIII'm very aware that it is a visual language. My question is why *these* handshapes. Why the 3hand rather than BentB or K. If it is simply that you picked them because you liked them, that's fine, that at least answers the question. If they mean something in Italian Sign Language, that's fine as well.Naraht (talk) 17:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- SurdusVII. So more clearly, why *these* handshapes in the image rather than a different one?Naraht (talk) 16:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- sorry, in what sense?? SURDUSVII 15:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- SurdusVIICan you show whereelse it has been used as a symbol?Naraht (talk) 15:24, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- hello, wikifriend, how are you?? congratulations to the new graph.. it's beautiful!!! yes, it is the symbol of sign languages and the Deaf culture.. ^__^ thanks @Judekkan and @Naraht ^__^ SURDUSVII 15:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like the user template first got that symbol from a change by SurdusVII. It may be from Italian SL, but OTOH, given that American Sign Language and British Sign Language are mutually unintelligible, I'm not sure that there is any single handsign that would make sense for all Sign Languages in places where the English Language is used. (and given the fact that it is a static image, where signs move) Any ideas?Naraht (talk) 14:53, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don’t know. The icon I took from Template:User WP Deaf. Judekkan (talk) 13:36, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Naraht I picked this image because not only the quality is good, but this WikiProject also uses it in there userbox. Now I’m no sure what the hand gesture means as I don’t do sign language. It might mean something, it might not. The most important thing that matters though is that members of the WikiProject are familiar with it. Judekkan (talk) 17:46, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Judekkan Thank You.Naraht (talk) 17:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Judekkan and @Naraht: the "sign" of the image in all sign languages has meanings: to chat, to discuss, to "signs" which is the verb that replaces "to talk".. is my last answer to your doubts clear?? SURDUSVII 18:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- SurdusVII Never doubted anything, just needed a good quality image and something that was already familiar to members of this WikiProject, thanks for letting me know though. Judekkan (talk) 19:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Judekkan Thank You.Naraht (talk) 17:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
WikiEdu Project of interest
editI'm a (hearing, ASL-fluent) professor at Temple University; Honors students in one of my courses as assigned to create Wikipedia articles about the experiences of DHH people in various countries around the world. Last fall, students created new articles focusing on deafness in Bangladesh, France, Ghana, India, Portugal, Soviet Russia, and Uzbekistan. They also made substantial edits to the following articles: Australian Deaf Community, Flemish Sign Language, Education in India, Women in India, and Disability in North Korea. I typically offer this course once per year, with approximately 25 students per semester. Therefore, an additional 25 countries (or significant regions) should receive deafness-focused articles every year. I'm relatively new to Wiki-work, and would appreciate help integrating these pages with this broader project, and/or other related projects. And of course, all Wikipedians are invited to help improve the articles themselves! Matthall.research (talk) 20:30, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Deaf people categories have been nominated for discussion
editVarious categories have been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Oculi (talk) 20:18, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
"Deaf ethnicity" listed at Redirects for discussion
editAn editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Deaf ethnicity and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 4 § Deaf ethnicity until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. A7V2 (talk) 00:13, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
Project-independent quality assessments
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parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:37, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Matthew Klotz listed at Requested moves
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Article drafted about Sandra Mae Frank
editHello all, I have drafted an article about the deaf actress Sandra Mae Frank. I appreciate any feedback in order to improve it. --Bernhard.rulla (talk) 10:31, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
FAR for Shaylee Mansfield
editI have nominated Shaylee Mansfield for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Kaylee Hottle
editThere is a discussion at Kaylee Hottle about mentioning her deafness in the lead section. Other editors are invited to comment. Discussion can be found here: Talk:Kaylee Hottle § Deafness. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 12:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Video request (NZSL and SASL)
editI request two free content videos of a person signing two country-names ; one in New Zealand Sign Language, the other in South African Sign Language. I do not know either language, so it would be helpful if someone here could record and upload such videos to Wikimedia Commons.
First, I request a video of someone signing "New Zealand" signed in clear and unambiguous NZSL (here are the various signs used for "New Zealand" according to the NZSL dictionary: [1], [2]).
Second, I request a video of someone signing "Republic of South Africa", also in clear and unambiguous SASL. (video of someone signing only "South Africa" can be found here, although I prefer to have the official name of the country so make sure the part "Republic of" is also there).
These videos will be helpful for the articles for South Africa and New Zealand, since both of those countries have designated their respective sign languages as official languages.
Thank you in advance to whoever can accomplish these.